What title do you respect the most? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

sakura75

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

Intensive Care Unit [ICU]

08 Aug 2006 at 12:50 - 41

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

None. No title in the game has any meaning because they're all easily obtained/bought/grinded for.

The only one that has possibly any meaning amidst the grind is Champion because you've still got to be a decent GvG guild to achieve it.

Fully agreed with you!
I prefer staying rankless, fameless and titleless, even though I have many titles and pretty good rank. I will never show you mine.

myword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Korea

08 Aug 2006 at 12:51 - 42

none, except champion probably

phasola

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

EaT

Mo/

08 Aug 2006 at 12:53 - 43

pvp : none
fame : iway
gladiator : zaishen challenge
champion : thumpers

as for pve, i like explorer titles cuz they're very long

logan90

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

08 Aug 2006 at 13:00 - 44

Tyrian GrandMaster Cartographer and KoaBD. Not so much Canthan GrandMaster Cartographer as its too easy to get.

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

08 Aug 2006 at 13:20 - 45

Drunkard. I dont much care for the titles so as Loki said previously, I've some appreciation for the humorous title and those that would bother to go ahead and get a completely pointless one. The high level one should be Drunken Master. ^^

Kaguya

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Moon

Mo/

08 Aug 2006 at 13:29 - 46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carth`

Means the assassin is a quitter or he got run through everything by a guildy/friend. The majority of survivors get run to a late game area and then pay to have someone power level them.

*fistshake* Not every Survivor cheated their way to the title.

But sad truth is that most of them did. I made a Survivor-mesmer soon after Factions launch, the title is easy to get as is without any outside help since you get to level 17-18 at the Shing Jea itself, and rest by doing couple of mainland quests.

Now that I got extra slots, I tried it for my necro in Tyria, lost it due to taking a short break while outside, and getting killed by a patrol. *grumble*

Aaand then my Ritualist, who has made it the longest, I've henched most of everything, except Vizunah Square and Nahpui Quarter, which I did with PUGs. ;D Just completed Vizunah Square without dying, and checked my title, and noticed it had frozen 10kxp earlier. Suppose I died without even noticing it at some point, supposedly when afking outside Maatu Keep c.c;

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

08 Aug 2006 at 13:49 - 47

That's why I said "the majority". There are probably people who got the other titles without paying someone to do it for them or lots of girinding, but since most people got it the other way, it kinda lessens the point of the title. Charmed/friend of/survivor/drunkard.... they're all just about money/farming really. Even protector titles can have someone run you. Sorry.

I guess we should be thankful the cartographers actually have to uncover it themselves, and can't pay someone to. The reason people don't respect this one is it's so common.

So yeah... only skill hunter really. You could potentially even pay someone to fight to the boss and kill it for you, but I don't think it's likely.

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

08 Aug 2006 at 13:50 - 48

Champion, Gladiator, Rank. In that order, rest gets no respect from here. (Exept for Druknard, i'd be most happy to have that title, but i'm too lazy to farm money to buy beers)

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

08 Aug 2006 at 14:58 - 49

i'm going for KOABD on my ranger. so far have:
protector of tyria
protector of cantha
tyrian trailblazer (roughly 87%)
canthan pathfinder
adept skill hunter (150 elites)

the skill hunter title has been the hardest out of them, hands down. aside from eventually running low on skill points, i've had to do the same missions over and over (thunderhead, anyone?) to get skills that only spawn in one place, or ones that are just a bitch to cap in general (wanderlust anyone?). so i have a lot more respect for skill hunters than i do, say, drunkards.

Meikleham of Tyr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Knights of Sacrosanct Law

R/Mo

08 Aug 2006 at 15:01 - 50

You do realize you can't get the Skill Hunter title maxed, yet... right? Therefore you will still need another maxed title for KOABD...

Kitty

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Germany

EI

N/Me

08 Aug 2006 at 15:03 - 51

well, problem is skill hunter won`t get you Koabd, at least not anytime soon, if ever at all, since the elite from the next chapter already count. You need 225 Elites for the 4th level...

Avarre

Bubblegum Patrol

Join Date: Dec 2005

Singapore Armed Forces

08 Aug 2006 at 15:11 - 52

You won't get max in Nightfall either, unless something is changed

KoaBD will be heavily watered, the only titles left that hold some value are gladiator and champion... the PvE ones are very common now.

blaise

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Holland

FeS

E/Me

08 Aug 2006 at 15:18 - 53

But their will be elite skills for prop, so.

Anduin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Ice Dragon Berserker Lodge

W/

08 Aug 2006 at 15:21 - 54

I have Grandmaster Cartographer for Cantha and Tyria. Protector of Cantha/Tyria. 180 Elite skill catures, and the first level of treasure hunting and wisdom seeking.

Yes, I have no life. I only have one character, and am trying to achieve KoaBD at some point. No one ran me. I didn't pay anyone for any of it. Protector of Cantha was not as easy as you might have thought. I dunno about you, but I did not love playing the Temple mission over and over again because we were off 12, 18, 27, 39, 52 seconds, and those were just the close times... (yes, I wrote them down, I was so frustrated).

The Grandmaster Cartographer titles aren't easy to get either, as you have to map areas like the Jade Quarry and Fort Aspenwood (I managed to get it sans going to the Quarry) and do missions over and over again to get .1 percent added. My character is Tyrian.

I'll keep working on finding chests and id'ing golds, but probably won't get KoaBD till after Nightfall is out and I get the Grandmaster Cartographer/Protector titles in that game.

elektra_lucia

Banned

Join Date: Feb 2006

England

Leteci is [sexy]

Mo/

08 Aug 2006 at 15:27 - 55

rank11+

glad 4+

Scorpion Boy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

08 Aug 2006 at 15:32 - 56

All the titles that don't have to do anything with money..

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

08 Aug 2006 at 15:51 - 57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aera Lure

I dont much care for the titles so as Loki said previously

I didn't used to care about the titles, but what is there to do after you've pushed 3+ characters through Canthan PvE? I don't really like Tyrian PvE but I'm taking my Elementalist through the missions in Tyria to see if I can get that protector title also...I don't like PvP AT ALL so Titles is about all I'm left with... Currently going for Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer, which is taking A VERY LONG TIME, since I do have a life...and barely manage to explore 0.2% every week...

Amadei

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Blinkie Ponie Armie

R/Me

08 Aug 2006 at 16:37 - 58

Probably the Protector of ____ titles, and then I'd give more respect to "Protector of Tyria" than to "Protector of Cantha", as the former IMO requires a little more skill than simply stampeding through a mission to beat the time-limit (I'm not fond of timed missions in general).

Skawtt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Oregon

W/N

08 Aug 2006 at 16:51 - 59

Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer. Im "sorta" working on that title myself I got 90.6% done atm and the only visible spot I have not been to is the last fire island. ( im lazy so sue me ) Im going to have to go to every zone and town and re explore and "scrape" along the edges. Its quite tedious and sometimes very boring but when you unlock another .1% of the map you feel like you accomplished something.

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

08 Aug 2006 at 17:09 - 60

Quote:

For me it has to be the "_____ of the Luxons/Kurzicks" titles. It shows you spent a lot of time to gain it and you "donated" a lot of money to your guild. Also it shows you know some basics of pvp.

I do have this title, and trust me it has nothing to do with skills. It's just about factions farming. You defnitely do not need PvP skills to get it - Aspenwood is something between PvE and PvP anyway. And actually, most of the heavy factions farmers who have this title get factions the quickest way, ie: repetitive quests.

OK I'm a bit biaised as it reminds me my old alliances - bad memories...

For me I'd say the hero track, because I know I'll never be able to get a high tier.

Drunkard is probably ma favorite title, but hard to say I respect it. It just shows you don't take the game seriously, and that's what I like.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

08 Aug 2006 at 17:31 - 61

None of them other than "of the kurzicks/luxons" mean much of anything.

Big Ones I don't think are that hot:
Cartographers - You get like 80-85% complete just by doing all the quests and those areas - so really only the 100% version fo the title means anything, and "skill" has nothing to do with how you get it.

Gladiator - Again, only highest lvls count for anything, and 99.99% of everyone that has it Elite Ziashen'ed it which takes no "skill" at all...

Champion - Most Champion's don't really mean much...a good 1/3 of the top teams Just Gimmicked there - Dervishway or ThumpWay. Right now I'd say a good 40% of the teams with enough rating to get this title would have NEVER got there if Anet hadn't handed them unbalanced skills (dervishway) or what amounts to the IWAY of GvGs (ThumpWay).

Rank - Rank means nothing nowadays and people are starting to realize that, Fame Farming is too effective now. Rank3 is the joke and rank6+ is getting that way. I know teams that are taking rank 1-2s over rank9 PUGs...because they know the rank1-2s and know they are better than most high rank PUGs..

Lynnrose

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

SoF Victrix [SoF]

08 Aug 2006 at 17:34 - 62

Short answer, none of them.

Longer answer . . .

PvP:

Before the reduction in rating requirement, I'd have said Champion. Now, the requirement is too low and too easily obtained.

My next would be Gladiator, but Zaishen Elite (the PvE of PvP), the double point weekend, and the ability to synch enter randoms dilutes its value.

After that, I'd vote for Hero, but that's horribly diluted by IWAY and Dervishway, let alone the ability to pay to tag along with a guild group/high-skill PUG and ride their coattails to fame.

PvE:

They all show nothing other than mindless grinding (for skills, gold, etc.).

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

08 Aug 2006 at 17:36 - 63

Quote:

Gladiator - Again, only highest lvls count for anything, and 99.99% of everyone that has it Elite Ziashen'ed it which takes no "skill" at all...

Many players zaishened it, but not all of them. I played in RA during a while to get some glad points, and for knowing many gladiator, I can say the majority don't have zaishened it, despite the fact that many did, I agree.

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

08 Aug 2006 at 17:41 - 64

Quote:

Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver

I didn't used to care about the titles, but what is there to do after you've pushed 3+ characters through Canthan PvE? I don't really like Tyrian PvE but I'm taking my Elementalist through the missions in Tyria to see if I can get that protector title also...I don't like PvP AT ALL so Titles is about all I'm left with... Currently going for Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer, which is taking A VERY LONG TIME, since I do have a life...and barely manage to explore 0.2% every week...

lol yeah, I have 8 Pve-only level 20s myself and do no PvP either, so fully understand where you are coming from. At a certain point PvE comes down to collection of titles and skins.

Relambrien

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Delaware, USA

Error Seven Operators [Call]

W/

08 Aug 2006 at 17:50 - 65

I want to post something off-topic, but I feel that I should at least post what the OP wanted before doing that. So here goes:

Most respected: Advanced Skill Hunter, or whatever the 180 elites is. Yes, it's done by grinding. But I respect anyone who has the patience to grind and cap all 180 elites so far in the game. I could never do that.

Least respected: Either of the "Explorer" titles. They're ridiculously easy to get, and by far the absolute easiest in the game. It's not that I don't respect them, it's just that they're the ones I respect the least. If that made any sense.

Anyway, now here's something relatively off-topic I wanted to post, sorry OP if this completely derails your thread, but I don't think it will.

I'm almost ashamed to show my "Deadly Hero (4)" title now. After reading this thread, I can't imagine how many people must have looked at my title and laughed at me in front of their computers. I have 518 fame, and did IWAY for about 2 weeks before I realized what a horribly cheap build it was. I have never done a thumper. I haven't even entered HA since December. So while I feel my title is actually deserving of some respect, I can't explain to people the circumstances upon which I earned it, and will likely be judged by anyone who sees it without me explaining it. Therefore, never again will I show a rank title, as the low ones are considered jokes and the high ones are assumed to have been IWAY'ed. Yet another reason I hate being judged. *sigh*

EDIT: Forgot to add that I never did Elite Zaishen Challenge to get glad points either, and I have 20. All of them RA'ed.

beanerman_99

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

In the clouds

[Sage]

E/

08 Aug 2006 at 17:50 - 66

For me its the only Title that I worked my butt off for and thats Skill Trainer. Took a lot of skill points and 1K per Cap Sig adds up rather quickly. And capping skills is not as easy as it seems. Those who cap in Shiverpeaks with henchs know what I mean

Anyways, it may not mean much to you but for me its a measure of my own success and perserverance.

Miss Puddles

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

Shiverpeaks Search And Rescue [Lost]

Me/

08 Aug 2006 at 17:50 - 67

i'm going for KOABD on my ranger. so far have:
protector of tyria
protector of cantha
tyrian trailblazer (roughly 87%)
canthan pathfinder
adept skill hunter (150 elites)

the skill hunter title has been the hardest out of them, hands down. aside from eventually running low on skill points, i've had to do the same missions over and over (thunderhead, anyone?) to get skills that only spawn in one place, or ones that are just a bitch to cap in general (wanderlust anyone?). so i have a lot more respect for skill hunters than i do, say, drunkards.

fb2000

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

08 Aug 2006 at 17:52 - 68

Incorrigible Ale Hound plz

champion, gladiator and hero arent bad either, tho its annoying when all the "pro's" keep whining how your titles are iwayed/zaishened/dervished

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

08 Aug 2006 at 18:02 - 69

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Puddles

adept skill hunter (150 elites)

Sorry but it can't be maxed, and doesn't count towards KoaBD.

cR4zY-n^

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Zadar - Croatia

We Work As A [Team]

Mo/E

08 Aug 2006 at 18:15 - 70

Survivor title ofcourse.

Stories about people leaving mid game or getting runners / powerlvlers are fairytales and excuse for people not having a survivor.

ALMOST anyone that made completly new character just to play survivor for sure won't waste time on such crap, and enjoy a challenge.

I believe most of survivors are legit.

SirErnieMacGloop

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

Area 52

08 Aug 2006 at 18:22 - 71

Most respected: Skill Hunter, 180 elites is a lot of skill points, cap sigs, and work.

On another note:
Where does everyone gets their stats that because you can work on some titles using exploits/gold/FoTM builds that most everyone has? Why is every rank 6+ automatically assumed to have fame farmed with Iway, or glads title using the Zaishen exploit, or survivor must've been p-levelled? Does anyone have any solid stats on how much this is rampant? Or is it all just conjecture/guessing?

OMG, you have "XXXXXX" title you must have "XXXXXX" to get it so therefore you are a "(insert derogatory statement here)" titles are meaningless.

/begin sarcasm
Almost everyone who assumes that the majority of title holders "cheated" to get them, probably doesn't have those titles themselves.
/end sarcasm

Seems pretty ridiculous to me that anyone makes blanket statements like that without any real evidence/stats to back it up.

Just my $.02
Peace

Sair

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Stoats if Necessary

W/Mo

08 Aug 2006 at 18:33 - 72

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Loki-

Drunkard. Titles are all about grind anyway, so I might as well respect the humorous one.

I'm gonna have to second that one. Drunkard for the win.

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

08 Aug 2006 at 20:10 - 73

Advanced Skill Hunter
Grandmaster Cartographer x2
Protector x2

In that order.

Now, I know people can 'leach' their way to some of these, but I did it the hard way. I killed every mob in Tyria and Cantha, several times, to get these titles. I did it all as a MM, with no running skills. Minions basically means you have to clear each map totally.

I did the Grandmasters first, and actually LEARNED the maps, so that when I capped skills I knew where the boss was before I looked him up.

Then I capped every (remaining) elite, killing 160+ elite bosses, many of them in truely crappy places. How many times did I have to re-do Abbadons because Agony Spindleweb didn't spawn....

So I respect these five titles. NO title indicates "OMG AWESOMENESS", but these five nearly always mean the person has a modicum of competence and ability.

bobrath

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Scouts of Tyria

08 Aug 2006 at 20:43 - 74

^^^ Well said and lines up with what I believe as well. Course I'd love to see a title for completing *all* the side quests.

I'm also waiting for ANet to release a new level of the KOABD title (The Real Big Deal).

prime stinger

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

RoA

R/

08 Aug 2006 at 22:37 - 75

1) Steward and upwards of the Luxon/Kurz. i'm at 500k faction transferd fo rmy guild now.. it's been long and tedious to get, and my guild leader had Defender of the Kurz (over 2.5m transferd)

2) Grand Master Carto, 100% tryia and cantha deserved respect.

3) Survivor, it takes alot of skill to pull the right mobs att he right time etc.

The Real Roy Keane

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

08 Aug 2006 at 22:40 - 76

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

None of them other than "of the kurzicks/luxons" mean much of anything.

Big Ones I don't think are that hot:
Cartographers - You get like 80-85% complete just by doing all the quests and those areas - so really only the 100% version fo the title means anything, and "skill" has nothing to do with how you get it.

Gladiator - Again, only highest lvls count for anything, and 99.99% of everyone that has it Elite Ziashen'ed it which takes no "skill" at all...

Champion - Most Champion's don't really mean much...a good 1/3 of the top teams Just Gimmicked there - Dervishway or ThumpWay. Right now I'd say a good 40% of the teams with enough rating to get this title would have NEVER got there if Anet hadn't handed them unbalanced skills (dervishway) or what amounts to the IWAY of GvGs (ThumpWay).

Rank - Rank means nothing nowadays and people are starting to realize that, Fame Farming is too effective now. Rank3 is the joke and rank6+ is getting that way. I know teams that are taking rank 1-2s over rank9 PUGs...because they know the rank1-2s and know they are better than most high rank PUGs..

What tripe- how is a 'Friend of' title in any way more meaningful than rank? Both are attained by grind, and while fame is indeed farmable with gimmick builds, the level of competition is greater than in AB's, which consist mainly of PvE'ers on a break from troll farming.
And to even suggest that it's harder to attain than a 'Champion' title..

Drucilla

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ohio, USA

Fires of Wisdom [wise]

W/

08 Aug 2006 at 23:13 - 77

The Grandmaster Cartographers are pretty nifty.

imo

CHUIU

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

Team Legacy

N/

08 Aug 2006 at 23:27 - 78

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

None. No title in the game has any meaning because they're all easily obtained/bought/grinded for.

The only one that has possibly any meaning amidst the grind is Champion because you've still got to be a decent GvG guild to achieve it.

I agree, I can comment on what I disrespect the most though - like survivor title on warriors. I laugh at one everytime I see them wearing it. It's comparable to wearing a title that says "I own 100 gold" - not very hard to accomplish. I also disrespect people who purposely farm titles. If you don't earn it through actually doing it then you don't deserve to wear it. For example, people who buy gold unid's for 1k, people who run around in areas to map them out, people who farm the same quest over and over again and donate faction just so their alliance can hold that certain town.

I doubt people who faction farm ever get the time to actually use their town - I never see them in it.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

09 Aug 2006 at 00:10 - 79

most respected by me

explorer titles (takes effort)
elite skills title (takes time & effort)

least respected by me

chest running (easyyyyyyy anyone can chest run)
gold IDing (paying 500g per item...lame)
survivor (anyone can be a survivor by paying a PL)
drunkard (takes no skill, just spare cash and too much time)

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

09 Aug 2006 at 02:07 - 80

Starting to admire the maxed out survivor title.. simply because of the amount of dedication it takes to get that title.

Incidentally, there are a few problems with getting a power leveler for that title, mainly, getting run to droks is deadly 90% of the time

That, and by the time you're at a decent farming area, you might as well farm it yourself.