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capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

09 Aug 2006 at 17:43 - 81

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Bah, you think too much like a capitalist. Of course, if you grew up in that society, that's perfectly normal and nothing at all wrong with it.

But... this is a game.

The gold isn't real.

The economy isn't real. There's no GWSE that rings open every morning at eight with people placing fortunes on the futures of commodities or buying stock in your various merchants.

This is a game, and more specifically, it's a game about balance where skills and the use of same are the determining factor, not wealth or skins.

That being said, the goal of the game should be not to have a U.S. style capitalistic society, but one where everyone has easy access to everything needed to compete as equals. There should be no classes of haves and have nots. Sure, you can cough and say greens, but the mentality is such that someone relying on greens is somehow a lower class than someone with a perfect zodiac whatever with the exact same stats.

If you feel "lower class" for using greens, that is a personal issue. As you said, wealth and skins have no effect on the outcome of the game; thus you don't need that perfect gold item to play at a high level.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

09 Aug 2006 at 19:47 - 82

Quote:

Originally Posted by capitalist

If you feel "lower class" for using greens, that is a personal issue. As you said, wealth and skins have no effect on the outcome of the game; thus you don't need that perfect gold item to play at a high level.

You have a tenuous grasp of the point, at best.

First off, I use greens. Ranger uses a Kephkets Refuge when trapping, assassin uses Cerimonial Daggers, Mesmer has a few... there's others... and I never claimed that I personally felt lower classes. It's the ones with the zodiac whatevers that have the illusion of superiority, even if the stats are equal to whatever green I'm using. Splashing more golds out there to reduce the rarity is a good way to calm tis issue down.

And secondly, the concept is to allow everyone access to the same high end weapons, cheaply, as everyone else. Then equality is assured, and everyone wins.

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

09 Aug 2006 at 20:15 - 83

Gaming has never been and never will be about equality. Rather, it's about individuality. The majority of people who play this game want to have different/better/rarer skins as a show of status (or at a minimum, to remind them of the amount of time spent playing the game).

Please do not opine on my understanding of your point, I can assure you that I completely understand. I will admit that I am, by nature, terse. I choose not to type paragraphs when I can state my opinion in a sentence ( I leave the soap box to LBS). I would advise you not to turn this personal, nor to begin insulting me or my intelligence; you will only make yourself look foolish.

Our difference in views can be traced to the fact I am a Capitalist, and you are a Socialist. We have differing world views that we both try to apply to a video game (which is a stroke of comic brillance in its own regard), so this will have to be one of those "agree to disagree" topics...

...now if I can just get that poor person to wash my BMW

Jaesmyn

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Chapter Vanguard

R/N

09 Aug 2006 at 20:48 - 84

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cherno

Thanks for the clarification Gaile, although when there is potential ambiguity with the wording (in this case a chest on the canthan continent, versus the chests called Canthan Chests), why not just say "All chests in Factions" with the little tm sign. That should make it perfectly clear what the intention is from the beginning.

I think they don't want to include Shing Jea Chests ???

As you say tho, it's ambiguous ... we don't know if they want every chest in Factions, or just those on the "technical" Canthan continent.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

09 Aug 2006 at 20:59 - 85

Quote:

Originally Posted by capitalist

Gaming has never been and never will be about equality. Rather, it's about individuality. The majority of people who play this game want to have different/better/rarer skins as a show of status (or at a minimum, to remind them of the amount of time spent playing the game).

Please do not opine on my understanding of your point, I can assure you that I completely understand. I will admit that I am, by nature, terse. I choose not to type paragraphs when I can state my opinion in a sentence ( I leave the soap box to LBS). I would advise you not to turn this personal, nor to begin insulting me or my intelligence; you will only make yourself look foolish.

Our difference in views can be traced to the fact I am a Capitalist, and you are a Socialist. We have differing world views that we both try to apply to a video game (which is a stroke of comic brillance in its own regard), so this will have to be one of those "agree to disagree" topics...

...now if I can just get that poor person to wash my BMW

I understand what you're saying about gaming not being about equality... that's the way it is in every other game except this one. Guild Wars IS about equality, about balance, about skills. Why else would there be a level 20 cap, 8 skill skillbar, balanced max weapon damages, etc.? Normally you're correct, but GW breaks the paradigm set by the Diablo's, WoWs, etc. where bigger is indeed better.

Now as for insulting intelligences and points being missed, merely stating that it appears that you missed the point (you gave no indication of understanding it in the post) is hardly a personal attack on your intelligence or absence thereof. Besides, I hardly need to insult your intelligence to look foolish; I've demonstrated the ability to do so in the past and assuredly will do so again without your help.

And have no doubts that I am indeed a capitalist in the real world, although I choose the shiny red Jeep Wrangler to the BMW, but that's a personal preference. Just so you know, for ten bucks that poor person will even shine the tires for you.

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

09 Aug 2006 at 21:21 - 86

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Now as for insulting intelligences and points being missed, merely stating that it appears that you missed the point (you gave no indication of understanding it in the post) is hardly a personal attack on your intelligence or absence thereof. Besides, I hardly need to insult your intelligence to look foolish; I've demonstrated the ability to do so in the past and assuredly will do so again without your help.

I love this word twisting, sounds like something I would write. It is, but it isn't. Is it insulting or self-depreciating? Dunno, but I like it.

allience

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

09 Aug 2006 at 21:38 - 87

hmm i'm waiting for a double fame event ;p

charrlover

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Red Light District

Buttsechs Buddies

W/Mo

09 Aug 2006 at 22:28 - 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by MSecorsky

I understand what you're saying about gaming not being about equality... that's the way it is in every other game except this one. Guild Wars IS about equality, about balance, about skills. Why else would there be a level 20 cap, 8 skill skillbar, balanced max weapon damages, etc.? Normally you're correct, but GW breaks the paradigm set by the Diablo's, WoWs, etc. where bigger is indeed better.

Now as for insulting intelligences and points being missed, merely stating that it appears that you missed the point (you gave no indication of understanding it in the post) is hardly a personal attack on your intelligence or absence thereof. Besides, I hardly need to insult your intelligence to look foolish; I've demonstrated the ability to do so in the past and assuredly will do so again without your help.

And have no doubts that I am indeed a capitalist in the real world, although I choose the shiny red Jeep Wrangler to the BMW, but that's a personal preference. Just so you know, for ten bucks that poor person will even shine the tires for you.

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

09 Aug 2006 at 22:38 - 89

Quote:

Originally Posted by charrlover

Leetsauce

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

09 Aug 2006 at 22:39 - 90

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaesmyn

I think they don't want to include Shing Jea Chests ???

As you say tho, it's ambiguous ... we don't know if they want every chest in Factions, or just those on the "technical" Canthan continent.

Shing Jea is probably included, however UW / FoW are not a part of Cantha, and thusly those chests aren't effected.

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

09 Aug 2006 at 22:58 - 91

Quote:

Originally Posted by charrlover

It's late. Translation requested.

Thank you.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

09 Aug 2006 at 23:14 - 92

I think it said.. i own you, oh yeah!!!

or.. SLAP... i got you yeah!!

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

09 Aug 2006 at 23:17 - 93

Quote:

Originally Posted by sir skulkcrasher

I think it said.. i own you, oh yeah!!!

or.. SLAP... i got you yeah!!

Just trying to figure out which end of the slap I stand... heh heh

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

09 Aug 2006 at 23:49 - 94

I think this is a way to balance out the farming by in a way making it easier for more people with less time to farm some nice items. Because there are people like me who have done all i care to do and now all i have left is to farm all day long so this lets people who don't do what i do get on the same page.. which is cool with me.

I got sick of just farming so i haven't been playing and probably wont untill closer to Nightfalls release. Then i'll decide if i stay or go.

aB-

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

10 Aug 2006 at 00:02 - 95

For the most part, I agree with capitalist. The prices of nearly all items is trending down. In the early stages of the game, 15>50 weapons could be sold for boatloads of cash, even if they were an undesirable skin. Now, the only weapons really worth keeping are the rare and desired skins. The market is already FLOODED with good weapons, and we would see many more of them if a more convinient way to sell items was available.

Which brings me to my next point. If an auction house or ANY type of efficient trade system were put in place, the value of items would plummet. I know I'm not alone when I say that it is difficult to trade items. There are tools like the sell forum here on this website and the auction website, but these are unknown to many gamers. And I know I'm not the only one that has a stockpile of weapons just waiting to be sold.

I really don't expect this weekend to change prices THAT much, but hey, I could be wrong. I figure that when the average gamer finds his good weapon, he will store it after having no success in LA D1. But overall, it should be a fun weekend and a good chance to get the treasure hunter titles up.

ZsasZ

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

in the wired

Perplexian Argonauts

N/Mo

10 Aug 2006 at 00:14 - 96

For everyone looking a gift horse in the mouth, I hope youre happy.

Quote:

ArenaNet has announced its next Weekend Event: Player Slaughter! From noon Friday to midnight Sunday, all drops will consist of nothing but Bones and Minor Runes of Any Class But The Ones You Use. In addition, duration of all player skills has been cut in half, and monster life and damage has been tripled. Plus, *no* Resurrection Shrines! Hope you all have a great weekend...

NOTE: The above is sarcasm. It is not true.

logan90

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

10 Aug 2006 at 12:11 - 97

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZsasZ

NOTE: The above is sarcasm. It is not true.

Aww you got my hopes up for nothing

lol. They really should do events like that. That way it would make it interesting.

Karmaniac

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

10 Aug 2006 at 15:01 - 98

Quote:

Originally Posted by capitalist

Gaming has never been and never will be about equality. Rather, it's about individuality. The majority of people who play this game want to have different/bett.....
.....
.... And whatever this guy has said earlier

Capitalism, supply and demand, economy and whatnot: well that's just a huge steaming pile of BC. All this is about is people with small penises.

PS. if someone could finally tell me if elite missions are considered as "being in Cantha"?

MSecorsky

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

So Cal

The Sinister Vanguard

Me/

10 Aug 2006 at 15:25 - 99

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karmaniac

PS. if someone could finally tell me if elite missions are considered as "being in Cantha"?

They are indeed.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

10 Aug 2006 at 21:11 - 100

New Note.

For Some Reason:
1) The In-Game Login Screen notice about this "Double-Your-Fun" weekend has been removed (The old announcement about the now-past Elite Mission weekend is back)

2) On guildwars.com The Announcement about this "Double-Your-Fun" weekend just redirects you right back to the main page (there is no page describing this weekend)

They change their minds on this idea?

Seems So.

Levi Garett

Old School Nub

Join Date: Jun 2005

ABQ, NM

Guildless

Mo/Me

10 Aug 2006 at 21:58 - 101

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

New Note.

For Some Reason:
1) The In-Game Login Screen notice about this "Double-Your-Fun" weekend has been removed (The old announcement about the now-past Elite Mission weekend is back)

2) On guildwars.com The Announcement about this "Double-Your-Fun" weekend just redirects you right back to the main page (there is no page describing this weekend)

They change their minds on this idea?

Seems So.

I'm sure it's from the buggy code that popped multiple Req. 7 15>50 crsystalline swords from Shing Jea chests.

Go roll a new Canthan critter, now!

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

10 Aug 2006 at 22:02 - 102

They can add as many double rare loot weekends as they want. It won't change the fact that trying to sell that loot is only slightly more fun than going to the dentist. I suppose if getting poked in the mouth with a metal hook is your idea of a good time, you might have the personality to sit around and type WTS for an hour. I, on the other hand, still have a few zodiacs from last weekend taking up inventory space because attempting to sell them simply isn't fun. Please, Arenanet, focus on lasting improvements to the game (auction systems, etc.) and back off on the minor weekend tweaks.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

10 Aug 2006 at 22:04 - 103

booooo no more double-your-fun weekend.. hurray beers!

Either way, i'll still go chests farming this week!

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

10 Aug 2006 at 22:18 - 104

I also opened 10 Canthan Chests yesterday...All Purple. And similar things were getting yelled out in Nahpai Quarter by others.

I assumed it was alittle nerf to persuade people to save the keys til this weekend...But I'm not even sure this weekend is going to happen now lol.

st3v3n

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/Mo

10 Aug 2006 at 22:56 - 105

they better still have this freaking event! ive been looking forward to it all week!

st3v3n

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/Mo

10 Aug 2006 at 23:11 - 106

its back now, in the login screen

YornStar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Portugal

Bad Net Fubar [bad]

W/

11 Aug 2006 at 13:01 - 107

so, when is this starting?

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

11 Aug 2006 at 15:10 - 108

Will keys be dropping all over the place too? Sort of like the jade wind orbs? I hope so... would help a lot with progressing a few more titles...

As for the folks complaining, I suspect they're probably immensely (game) wealthy already anyway. Honestly, all you're spending on is vanity, big deal. Most likely probably already have all you need to play the game, everything else is just "luxury" items for ego purposes.

DarkZeal

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

N/Me

11 Aug 2006 at 17:43 - 109

Went on some chest runs in Raisu Palace. Got some of the worst drops to date. Not to mention only 2 out of 8 chests were gold.

You See Me Crying

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Moscow

R/

11 Aug 2006 at 17:50 - 110

Opened 7 chests recently.
7 out of 7 were purple.
Thanks, my fun is doubled now.

Ganik Thress

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

Xen of Onslaught [XoO]

W/E

11 Aug 2006 at 17:53 - 111

I really have to wonder if ANet actually ever follows their timed initiations of events :-P

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

11 Aug 2006 at 18:02 - 112

The event hasn't started yet

It starts at noon PST, in 1 hour. ArenaNet did a ninja-time switch.

EagleEye812

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ex Loca Infernorum [XLI]

N/

11 Aug 2006 at 18:17 - 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by You See Me Crying

Opened 7 chests recently.
7 out of 7 were purple.
Thanks, my fun is doubled now.

Your fun still is regular. The double fun starts in one hour. No sooner, no later. So, stop having fun!

edit: ooh, aah, ooooooh, new update!! I think it might have started!

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

11 Aug 2006 at 18:26 - 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Update

Made preparations for this week's Double-Your-Fun Weekend event.

Yeppers.

Now, how long until people find a stealth-nerf?

Gert Butterfing

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Dragons [NDR]

W/

11 Aug 2006 at 18:26 - 115

Quote:

Update - Friday August 11

* Made preparations for this week's Double-Your-Fun Weekend event.
* Fixed a bug that caused sound to drop out on some sound cards.

Looks like

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

11 Aug 2006 at 18:26 - 116

Its here.

greenlantern

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OA

11 Aug 2006 at 18:33 - 117

Double this double that... Can the event team come up with something original.

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

11 Aug 2006 at 18:34 - 118

Quote:

Originally Posted by greenlantern

Double this double that... Can the event team come up with something original.

e? Pi?

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

11 Aug 2006 at 18:59 - 119

For the next event, A-Net can triple anything that you get from chests. Come on.. triple is better than double

pepys

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

4rthur

R/Mo

11 Aug 2006 at 18:59 - 120

Stop whining.