The Mystery of the Illusionary Weapon.

This confuses me... If you have time to create a sweet weapon model like just for a decorative weapon rack in ascalon AND even go so far as to use the same weapon as the icon for an elite skill, why isn't the weapon usable in the game? Also why are you going to reuse old weapon skins for "unique" green items if you have time to make a decorative weapon rack "unique."

Individuality and style is very important in a big online community. If we are going to grind for green weapons and unique items they should at least look unique. I would also like to see unique weapons for the NPCs such as Mhenlo and Argo. Seriously with that kind of work on just a background weapon rack, why not apply the same concept on you know, the stuff we actually get to use?

That sword would sooooo own in my warrior's hands ^^

Yeah tell me about it... I wonder why is just sitting there on a decorative rack instead of being out there in the game and being driven into someones skull. It would make a great unique green. Like I said, greens should be uniquely modeled, like golds were in phantasy star online.

Its kind of disheartening when I can't tell the difference between a Grognar's Blade and that 1-4 dmg Longsword that dropped from the first aloe seed I bashed with my hammer when I started in pre...

I would definitely take more of an interest in green farming if they had sweet never before seen models, like Xanaxai's Axe, Urgoz's Longbow, or Tanzit's Defender. I did like the Totem Axe, Icebreaker, and Fans because they were all unique weapons that didn't share a model with anything else. Before those, most greens are merely copies... like Drago's Flatbow being just a giant Flatbow model.

Yeah no kidding. But I'm sure they'll add my Tribal Axe green in Nightfalls.

Tell me about it....the sword on the rack is likely to stab yourself when you swing it.

My rune of superior swordsmanship says it can handle the pokie side and have it go into someone's eye with riposte if they try to sneak behind me.

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But if you talking about the effectiveness of sword designs, I would have to say the Spatha or Forked Sword is the most best one in the game.



The elongated prong blade at the top of the sword would catch an enemies sword into the nook and if you were strong enough you could probably use one of these like a sword breaker and snap an enemy blade. Both top and bottom blades have hooked tips so you have more control over the enemies' motion when parrying attacks. Also you have 2 serrated notches at the back of the sword that can catch attacks that slide down to the handle. The neck of the sword is also narrow leading to the handguard, so forceful blows will be caught between the holes between your blade and crossbar.

If I were using a sword in a real fight I would bring something like this. Good thing my warrior has a 15^50 one.

I'm going to steal that weapon... just give the weapons guy a snitch of Phantom Pain and then scare him away with a Phantasm, grab any old sword and enchant it with IW, do a switch-a-roo... it'll be all miiiine!!!

kudo's on the find btw^^

Maybe a sword for next chapter? Dunno, it looks like it might fit in there better than in kryta.

Then I would see this in town:

Terra Xin: WTS Illusionary Sword! 100k + 1,000,000,000 ectos! Never before seen model! 15-22 req.7 Chaos Damage, Health +30. Pst!

-j/k :P

I wouldn't mind seeing the sword the Ghostly Hero uses which is also on that rack as a weapon.

Do you have ANY idea how strong you'd have to be to break steel?

I friggen want those blades!

Yeah, but that weapon racks has been there since beta. Even before factions... The design looks pretty krytan to me, much like the white scythe/handaxes that the mantle use. It would be cool if Justicar Hablion used one of these and had a green drop for killing him, or if the mantle used and dropped them in general.

Confessor Dorian should also use the Orrian style staff for his weapon and drop a green version for killing him in THK.

Yeah back in the day there were sword breakers that fought during the middle ages, they used a similar kind of sword to break enemy weapons. You have to consider the forging process of militia blades back in that time period was very primordial compared to what it is now with machine factory forging. Older swords forged by hammer and iron had many material defects that allowed them to be broken by well designed and stronger swordbreakers. If you can't break it you can still just twist the blade and tear the whole sword out of their hands... then you would be the last one laughing. The forked sword was probably based on this tidbit of middle age lore.

Yeah I noticed that as well. Also the Zaishen Warriors at Heros Ascent use ghostly versions of that same sword your talking about. It wouldnt be hard to have UW monsters like smite crawlers start dropping them rarely, sinces there's already a working in game model. They would go really nice with my eternal shield.

A good way to introduce these weapons would be to have the white mantle start dropping the giant curved sword (as stated before) and UW monsters start dropping ghostly swords or eternal blades. Maybe the eternal blades could drop in Tombs as well. The IW curved blade is definitely a white mantle weapon, just check out the emblem that appears on each of the weapon racks the swords are shown on. The white mantle would definitely be alot more wicking swinging those things around along with white scythes.

Maxed versions should start dropping at places like Iron Mines and THK, especially THK because of the mission difficulty.

This way everyone is happy, nothing is changed too radically and we would have one giant white mantle killfest. Also those weapon models that have been dusting on that rack can be polished up a little with a resolution fix and glare effect and put to good use. Maybe some new white mantle patrols carrying these kinds of sword (with a chance of +5 energy drop) can be added to the jungles around denravi. This way the wastland city regains its former glory as it did when the HOD sword was around.

Now thats a really good idea.

-New weapon models! Woot! (Well old ones that are just now usable)
-A reason to go to henge of denravi besides DD.
-Easy to introduce from a developers standpoint since the weapons are already in the game.
-Maybe some new patrols in UW that carry the eternal sword and that protected by some shatter enemies. This would increase the diversity in UW from the usual 55/SS that just abuse the place all night long.

Ever see a sword breaker? with a smoothe enough motion you can snap a sword in half, saw my friends dad do it in a demonstration between him and my friend, it was neat :P


but back on topic, this is so true, give me a good tribale axe please? PLEASE?!

i saw that sword on the rack as well as some various bows i had never seen before, i never made the connection between IW though. good find...

Actually that's one of the worst sword models in the game. It's completely impractical. There's a reason you never see an actual, real-life sword that looks anything like that.

Of course practicality can go out the window in a game, but it's also, in my opinion, just plain ugly.

The real spatha was a long cavalry version of the Roman gladius. No frills, imminently practical, and very effective.

the skill icon was always nice, but nice find showing the real thing

This is a real sword breaker, a dagger that was used as part of the main gauche for breaking epee and rapier blades. Real sword breakers are much bigger.



This is a real spatha, the kind used in the roman cavalry. Contrary to what was said about it, this sword was actually used by battle commanders. Most of these were decorative and the commander would signal his troops by holding the blade in the air. Most of the romans used spears and javelins while moving in the "tank" method in which they grouped up and used their shields to make a moving fortress. Because of the lack of a handguard, you could tell the sword really wasnt used for the frontlines. The sword was also designed to pierce armor. A swiping attack from a blade like this would not do half as much damage as a thrust. Gladius and Spatha swords were basically a last resort for battle commanders. As a last resort this was a easy to use sword with one design goal: Pull it out and stick it into the guy coming after you.



In regards to sable's comment I looked over the model of the forked sword/spatha and made some design fixes for practical use. First I would remove the two prongs at the end of the blade indicated by the red circles. Further thinking about actually using a sword like this, those hooks would get in the way of parrying a blade side the sword is so wide. The bottom hook would prevent me from locking an enemy sword from sliding into the forked opening at the center of the sword. I would also thin down the entire blade of the sword to be more narrow so it can be swung more easily. Then last I would add a sword breaker design to the bottom blade, although the size of the sword would make it harder to break a weapon, catching a blade on these prongs would still help. I would consider just serrating the blade at the bottom rather than just adding breaking prongs.



And finally if you want a really effecient sword, all you would need to do is a get a big bladed steel comb with a handle. It's not pretty but with enough strength something like that would be impossible to block without getting wounded. If made a sword with huge spikes jutting from the blade like comb teeth with a good amount of space between each one, it would be practically impossible to parry a weapon like that without a full shield. Too bad guns came around before someone thought of this.

Also I used to fence so I have some knowledge of sword/knife related things.