Guildies anti-WoW @.@
dnky
y does it seem like all ppl who play GW r anti WoW? i play both, i usually play 1 for a few months and switch to the other. im confident in saying they r equally great games. WoW gives the feeling of being in a real world, being able to have certain freedoms that arent available in GW. GW, on the other hand, has an awesome pick-up-n-play value, and u can log in for 15 minutes, and log out without any hesitation. for w/e reason meh fellow gw players hate WoW, plz explain to me. (p.s. i NEVER hear of any1 in WoW say "go play GW")
Opeth11
I don't know why. World of Warcraft is a perfectly great game. It has it's ups and downs, but so does Guild Wars.
I think it's becuase Guild Wars and World of Warcraft are such great sellers in the gaming market today. Therefore, people feel the need to give them a sense of competition although they are really not that similar at all.
Anyone who bashes World of Warcraft because it's World of Warcraft is a complete moron who can't think. Give a legitimate reason and maybe I'll listen. And no, cartoon graphics doesn't work.
I think it's becuase Guild Wars and World of Warcraft are such great sellers in the gaming market today. Therefore, people feel the need to give them a sense of competition although they are really not that similar at all.
Anyone who bashes World of Warcraft because it's World of Warcraft is a complete moron who can't think. Give a legitimate reason and maybe I'll listen. And no, cartoon graphics doesn't work.
Plushie Penguin
I tried the beta of wow, and just didn't like it, it's not my cup of soda(^-^)
fiery
I bought WoW, played 2 days out of the whole free month, uninstalled it. I have friends who played it but monthly pays, cartoonish looks, HUGE pve environment, running to your corpse when dead, easily lost, list goes on and on.
Opeth11
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Originally Posted by fiery
I bought WoW, played 2 days out of the whole free month, uninstalled it. I have friends who played it but monthly pays, cartoonish looks, HUGE pve environment, running to your corpse when dead, easily lost, list goes on and on.
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See, it's just a matter of play style. Some people like it, some people don't.
GloryFox
Monthly Fee's sux and so does handing Faction over to boost some guilds fragile ego. Fortunately handing faction over is an option.
gamecube187
I know why I (and some other people I know that play guild wars) don't like WoW. Its because of the evil monthly fee. My friends and I don't belive in paying for a game to install it and then get to pay monthly to accually pay it. Plus I've heard things that just sound dumb like when you die you become a ghost and get to run back to your corpse. Why would anyone put that in a game. It sure sounds pointless and not at all fun to get to run to your corpse everytime you die. Plus I've seen the graphics and, lets just say I like the GW graphics a lot more.
As for the people in WoW that never say "go play GW", I have friends who play that and they won't touch GW just because it doesn't have a monthly fee so they think that it isn't a good quality game that is fun (how they came to that conclusion I will never know...).
Sorta wierd how the community of GW says go play WOW, yet the community of the WoW doesn't say go play GW. Just wierd.
As for the people in WoW that never say "go play GW", I have friends who play that and they won't touch GW just because it doesn't have a monthly fee so they think that it isn't a good quality game that is fun (how they came to that conclusion I will never know...).
Sorta wierd how the community of GW says go play WOW, yet the community of the WoW doesn't say go play GW. Just wierd.
Opeth11
Well, even if a game has a monthly fee, by no means does it "suck", as many Guild Wars players have referred to World of Warcraft as. There's a reason why they (Blizzard) charge a monthly fee, the amount of strain the game takes on the server is exceptionally large because of it's open environment.
The community in World of Warcraft is a very respectable community, to be honest. Sure, they can bash Guild Wars at time, but it doesn't get out of hand too often when compared to when some of the players in these forums go berserk.
The community in World of Warcraft is a very respectable community, to be honest. Sure, they can bash Guild Wars at time, but it doesn't get out of hand too often when compared to when some of the players in these forums go berserk.
Feminist Terrorist
I tried WoW. Didn't like it, didn't go back. It was simply not for me. It's a perfectly fine game, although I've lost a few GW friends to it.
What I don't like is when people post about how they'd like things added to GW, "because WoW has it". Hey, if you want that (mounts or fishing) go play that game. If every game had the same things, what would be the point of playing a different game?
What I don't like is when people post about how they'd like things added to GW, "because WoW has it". Hey, if you want that (mounts or fishing) go play that game. If every game had the same things, what would be the point of playing a different game?
Opeth11
Why do people try to add World of Warcraft features through suggestion? My guess is that they want to play World of Warcraft without paying for it.
Phaern Majes
only WoW thing I'd like to see in GW is an auction house.
Reine Stormshroud
World of Warcraft is a perfectly fine game. I loved it, personally. But the choices you make reflect the way you play- and some people in GW just might as well not like WoW- sometimes it *does* seem like an ongoing competition between the two- but its pointless. For me- I played GW for awhile; heard about WoW- went to it for 5 months. Realized it was WAY too time consuming (guilds there [if they wanna go somewhere] want you to sacrifice your time to be there for every end-game raid) So- that was the end of WoW for me, and now I'm back to good old GW. :]
/end of gaming story.
lol.
/end of gaming story.
lol.
Sol Deathgard
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Originally Posted by Feminist Terrorist
What I don't like is when people post about how they'd like things added to GW, "because WoW has it". Hey, if you want that (mounts or fishing) go play that game. If every game had the same things, what would be the point of playing a different game?
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EndoftheSyringe
I think the reason you will see a lot of people that play Guild Wars not liking WoW is because of the fact that one of the reasons they PLAY Guild Wars is because games like WoW aren't their cup of tea. It's like sour and sweet. Some people don't like sour because sweet tastes better to them... Wow is good... VERY well made. It does what it tries to do perfectly. Some people just aren't going to like the way it plays - thus, they play Guild Wars, and don't like WoW. The whole "LOL LOOSER GO BACK 2 PLAI WOW" thing is ignorance. Whenever someone takes something from WoW as a suggestion for GW, a lot of people are like, "This isn't WoW." Truth is, there are things, like the auction house for example, or guild customization (as I hear, anyways) that really could help GW.
Opeth11
People do need to realize that Guild Wars and World of Warcraft are two completely different games. If I were to choose a way of defining each one with one acronym each, I would use: PvP vs PvE.
Honestly, that's what each game is based on, and if people can't get their heads over it, then I don't know what can. The two games shine in their own department, and you can't tell someone off just because they like a different style of play.
Okay, so you don't like the level cap in Guild Wars. People will tell you to go play World of Warcraft, which makes sense in a way, but you really shouldn't pick World of Warcraft as the target game instantly.
In order to make a fair comparison, the two games would need to be the same in basics. Guild Wars and World of Warcraft are not.
Honestly, that's what each game is based on, and if people can't get their heads over it, then I don't know what can. The two games shine in their own department, and you can't tell someone off just because they like a different style of play.
Okay, so you don't like the level cap in Guild Wars. People will tell you to go play World of Warcraft, which makes sense in a way, but you really shouldn't pick World of Warcraft as the target game instantly.
In order to make a fair comparison, the two games would need to be the same in basics. Guild Wars and World of Warcraft are not.
EndoftheSyringe
I think WoW is the target game because as far as pay2play games go, I think it's the best.
Opeth11
So, then when people are complaining about Guild Wars and they get a response of "GO PLAY WOW", they actually mean: "Go play a better game"
Weird.
I still think that World of Warcraft should be left out of discussions when it comes to "flames"
Weird.
I still think that World of Warcraft should be left out of discussions when it comes to "flames"
Sectus
I think there are many GW players who hate WoW because the games have extremely distinct differences in key areas despite being of a similar genre.
To be more specific: WoW = lots of grind. GW = less grind.
I think that alone makes lots of GW players hate WoW. The same way lots of WoW players hate GW.
To be more specific: WoW = lots of grind. GW = less grind.
I think that alone makes lots of GW players hate WoW. The same way lots of WoW players hate GW.
EndoftheSyringe
Guild Wars isn't pay2play (in the monthly sense)...
I even if Guild Wars was pay2play, I'd still prefer Guild Wars.
I even if Guild Wars was pay2play, I'd still prefer Guild Wars.
gamecube187
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Originally Posted by Opeth11
So, then when people are complaining about Guild Wars and they get a response of "GO PLAY WOW", they actually mean: "Go play a better game"
Weird. I still think that World of Warcraft should be left out of discussions when it comes to "flames" |
Do you mean
So, then when people are complaining about Guild Wars and they get a response of "GO PLAY WOW", they actually mean: "Go play a different game"
I don't see how you came up with better out of this.....
Opeth11
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Originally Posted by gamecube187
Do you mean So, then when people are complaining about Guild Wars and they get a response of "GO PLAY WOW", they actually mean: "Go play a different game" I don't see how you came up with better out of this..... |
I simply twisted the words of the other poster into a different scenario.
edit - for those of you who havn't seen me post too often, I think it would be of your best interest to know that I have a strange "think outside of the box" approach to things. More often than not, I twist things way out of proportion and it can be hard to understand. Now..if I could apply that to mathematics..
zakaria
WoW players have huge PvE content that makes any nerf in their huge world unoticable or doesn't effect alot or all of players, and who ever has been hurted with a nerf he/she has alot of varieties of options to choose from and go around the nerf (i'm not talking about finding exploit but legitimate solution), so the don't complain or whine like us unless they are totally noobs and they don't know that there are alot of solutions out there. So basiclly it's uncommon to find somone there say go play GW.
Casual player: they nerf skill/item/area...etc.
Expert player 1:you have option 1.
Expert player 2:you have option 2.
Expert player 3:you have option 3.
Casual player :thanks for help
On the other hand GW players has average PvE content makes any nerf bat swinging here or there is quite noticeable and effect alot portion of casual players and the choices become more less and tight to go around the problems and move on.So what happens is :
Casual player: they nerf my favorite skill/item/area..etc.
Troll 1: Adapt it.
Troll 2: get over it.
Troll 3: go play WoW !!
Admin: *thread closed*
Another scenario but i don't think ANet dare to do it. Anet nerf 55/SS farming in UW and no more solo or dual farming. Can you tell me what are the options and choices we have that gives us in same time we spend there the same amount of profit in game !!!!..none.
unless you count "Go play WoW!!" as an option.
Casual player: they nerf skill/item/area...etc.
Expert player 1:you have option 1.
Expert player 2:you have option 2.
Expert player 3:you have option 3.
Casual player :thanks for help
On the other hand GW players has average PvE content makes any nerf bat swinging here or there is quite noticeable and effect alot portion of casual players and the choices become more less and tight to go around the problems and move on.So what happens is :
Casual player: they nerf my favorite skill/item/area..etc.
Troll 1: Adapt it.
Troll 2: get over it.
Troll 3: go play WoW !!
Admin: *thread closed*
Another scenario but i don't think ANet dare to do it. Anet nerf 55/SS farming in UW and no more solo or dual farming. Can you tell me what are the options and choices we have that gives us in same time we spend there the same amount of profit in game !!!!..none.
unless you count "Go play WoW!!" as an option.
wilson
i actually played WoW when it was released, in part because it was released before Guild Wars but seriously, WoW is a nice game. i really enjoyed my 2 months stay in WoW. you have to pay a fee, but you get a lot in return. WoW had quite a lot of server troubles in the beginning, and for every day you couldn't play because of that, you got an extra free day, which was, pretty nice.
what i really didn't like in WoW were the "artifical" boundaries. usually in rpg's i play only humans, and i just did not like the fact that not every class was available for every race. i would have loved to start a human ranger, but humans could not become rengers you have so many choices in WoW, why start with limiting your characters profession?
WoW has a very rich and nice world to explore. there were some breathtaking sights in the game. but i missed the many details you can find in Guild Wars. somehow i felt, A-net put more love in the world creation. there are so many little things to see, you just don't know where to start. and of course there is the comic look of WoW characters, which i really don't like that much. i prefer the more "real" (how real can a video game become anyway ) look of Guild Wars.
in addition to that, GuildWars gives you more freedom to build your character. you can choose what your character's roll will be for that specific mission, something i really like. it's like rerolling a new chracter over and over again
all in all i'd really say it's just a matter of personal preferences. it's really hard to compare both games, let alone judge which one is the better game. both are very good games, WoW just doesn't have what i look for in video games i really don't see how you can hate WoW, or someone playing WoW. it's an excellent game, might just not be your personal choice.
what i really didn't like in WoW were the "artifical" boundaries. usually in rpg's i play only humans, and i just did not like the fact that not every class was available for every race. i would have loved to start a human ranger, but humans could not become rengers you have so many choices in WoW, why start with limiting your characters profession?
WoW has a very rich and nice world to explore. there were some breathtaking sights in the game. but i missed the many details you can find in Guild Wars. somehow i felt, A-net put more love in the world creation. there are so many little things to see, you just don't know where to start. and of course there is the comic look of WoW characters, which i really don't like that much. i prefer the more "real" (how real can a video game become anyway ) look of Guild Wars.
in addition to that, GuildWars gives you more freedom to build your character. you can choose what your character's roll will be for that specific mission, something i really like. it's like rerolling a new chracter over and over again
all in all i'd really say it's just a matter of personal preferences. it's really hard to compare both games, let alone judge which one is the better game. both are very good games, WoW just doesn't have what i look for in video games i really don't see how you can hate WoW, or someone playing WoW. it's an excellent game, might just not be your personal choice.
Gli
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Originally Posted by Opeth11
Anyone who bashes World of Warcraft because it's World of Warcraft is a complete moron who can't think. Give a legitimate reason and maybe I'll listen. And no, cartoon graphics doesn't work.
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I've seen it at a friend's. First, he had to queue for a while before he got on. Then I got a look at the graphics.
Queueing and graphics I dislike. I didn't need to see more to decide I wouldn't be playing that game, ever.
Opeth11
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Originally Posted by Gli
Who are you to decide that I can't dismiss a game because of its graphics? I happen to find that disliking something you have to look at 100% of the time while you play is a perfectly legitimate reason to dismiss a game.
I've seen it at a friend's. First, he had to queue for a while before he got on. Then I got a look at the graphics. Queueing and graphics I dislike. I didn't need to see more to decide I wouldn't be playing that game, ever. |
Don't judge a book by it's cover. Refer to that statement if you must, for I was discussing the fact that people hate the game as a whole because of the graphics.
Charqus
Guild wars dont hate WoW its just SOME players hate WoW...
There was a link i posted a while back which i cant remember something like www.worldofwarcraftsucks.com leads to the guild wars hompage but that link isnt right.
I'll try n find it and then edit post
There was a link i posted a while back which i cant remember something like www.worldofwarcraftsucks.com leads to the guild wars hompage but that link isnt right.
I'll try n find it and then edit post
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by dnky
y does it seem like all ppl who play GW r anti WoW?
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Furthermore... sms-speek hurts my eyes.
majoho
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Originally Posted by dnky
y does it seem like all ppl who play GW r anti WoW? i play both, i usually play 1 for a few months and switch to the other. im confident in saying they r equally great games. WoW gives the feeling of being in a real world, being able to have certain freedoms that arent available in GW. GW, on the other hand, has an awesome pick-up-n-play value, and u can log in for 15 minutes, and log out without any hesitation. for w/e reason meh fellow gw players hate WoW, plz explain to me. (p.s. i NEVER hear of any1 in WoW say "go play GW")
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I wonder why people don't realize that stupid shorcuts like y, r, u, plz, ppl, any1 and even using 1 instead of one makes readablity worse.
Actually your whole post is against the posting rules here - I guess in WoW terms that would be L2S (Learn to spell).
Gli
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Originally Posted by Opeth11
So a game doesn't look great, that must mean that the whole thing must be horrible?
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Originally Posted by Opeth11
Don't judge a book by it's cover. Refer to that statement if you must, for I was discussing the fact that people hate the game as a whole because of the graphics.
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And, I don't think the in-game graphics are equivalent to a book's cover. They are content. The game's packaging, that's like the books cover.
Also, I did mention I didn't like the login queue, so that's another reason I gave besides the graphics.
Zakarr
I don't like WoW because you have to dedicate your life for finding the best stuff.
Silver_Fang
WoW got heavy long grind, GW have grind but not as much as WoW.
WoW classes are kinda fixed, constant buffing and nerfing that makes the game just unenjoyable. Simply put, they don't know how to design a class. You can't communicate with the enermy, its like playing 2 different games, unless you are on IRC or forums.
Gameplay, its interesting for a while, then it is repeating, a lot of games repeat contents, GW does too, but GW rerpeating contents are optional. WoW is required, you have to do quest or grind to level up and the quest are the same after level 15.
I played WoW for a long long time and i got sick of the grinding for equipment, you have to get the equipment in order to be effectable unlike GW, its about the skill setup, sure equipment help, but it doesnt affect much like WoW does.
PvP, no tourney, just best of the server and even best means nothing, it means you spent so many time grinding in BG.
WoW classes are kinda fixed, constant buffing and nerfing that makes the game just unenjoyable. Simply put, they don't know how to design a class. You can't communicate with the enermy, its like playing 2 different games, unless you are on IRC or forums.
Gameplay, its interesting for a while, then it is repeating, a lot of games repeat contents, GW does too, but GW rerpeating contents are optional. WoW is required, you have to do quest or grind to level up and the quest are the same after level 15.
I played WoW for a long long time and i got sick of the grinding for equipment, you have to get the equipment in order to be effectable unlike GW, its about the skill setup, sure equipment help, but it doesnt affect much like WoW does.
PvP, no tourney, just best of the server and even best means nothing, it means you spent so many time grinding in BG.
torquemada
I tried to play WoW for a while, but was horrified by the amount of grind there and the inertness of combat (is it combat really or just interactive cartoon?)
EndoftheSyringe
I'm not too keen on the grind of WoW, but I absolutely love the graphics.
I'm a sucker for retro and low poly stuff. I would MUCH rather something look like quake 3 than doom 3... all wrapped in plastic wrap and whatnot.
I'm a sucker for retro and low poly stuff. I would MUCH rather something look like quake 3 than doom 3... all wrapped in plastic wrap and whatnot.
torquemada
Well, what I did love was professions (not classes), transports and some other RP elements - GW is more like instant-action in that regard - all to keep the precious balance.
And yeah, dungeons, dungeons! Catacombs from pre-sear!
And yeah, dungeons, dungeons! Catacombs from pre-sear!
Inde
We do not need another GW vs. WoW thread (there are enough) and please try to make an effort to have fellow forum members understand you by typing in complete sentences. This forum requires a post to be readable with no leet speak and some effort involved.