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Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

09 Aug 2006 at 06:38 - 1

Yeah, I was messing around in HA international with my EQ/AS warder and we were accepting all these random adds. Then all of a sudden WHOA! Are you serious!

Our celebrity was a pretty cool guy, he pugged with us for 3 games and a friend of mine was translating things into korean for him. He called key targets out instantly and even after we got wiped by a nasty dual smite team he stayed around and helped us rebuild the party.

So for all of you who say pugging in the tournament is noobs... well pros pug too! Never expected someone like him from a tier so high would just randomly join our rag tag army. On top of that he was a big help and didn't talk to us like noobs, ragequit after we lost or anything.

WM ftw

What a crazy PuG... cool guy tho, I'll def. hoping they do well in this next GWWC season. Nice to know people that play pro still stick around and have fun with us noobsters every now and then.

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

09 Aug 2006 at 06:45 - 2

Is that the same cape that WM has in actuallity? I can't seem to recall. That might actually be a guild with the same tag =/

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

09 Aug 2006 at 06:46 - 3

Quote:

Originally Posted by Opeth11

Is that the same cape that WM has in actuallity? I can't seem to recall. That might actually be a guild with the same tag =/

Check out that silver trim, you can't dupe that. Yep he was the real thing.

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

09 Aug 2006 at 06:46 - 4

Ah, I guess I should change the gamma of my computer, seeing that I can't really see a trim ><

I'll believe you though.

Blind Rage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

New Zealand

Inyurface Gaming [IYF]

09 Aug 2006 at 06:47 - 5

look closer.. it has silver trim

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

09 Aug 2006 at 06:50 - 6

Yeah he was cool as hell, only have good things to say about him unexpectedly pugging with us. We had one guy Err7 and he still stayed around to play with us even tho we had a henchie.

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

09 Aug 2006 at 06:50 - 7

Hey, this computer is old and the colours don't even show up properly. Why do you think I'm posting on a forum instead of playing a game instead?

This computer can't handle anything =_=

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

09 Aug 2006 at 06:54 - 8

I honestly find nothing remarkable about this. So a guy from War Machine was playing Randomway. Big deal.

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

09 Aug 2006 at 06:58 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zui

I honestly find nothing remarkable about this. So a guy from War Machine was playing Randomway. Big deal.

It's just that not many people get to play with a highly successful player when it comes to PvP.

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

09 Aug 2006 at 07:33 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zui

I honestly find nothing remarkable about this. So a guy from War Machine was playing Randomway. Big deal.

What he said.

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

09 Aug 2006 at 07:41 - 11

a WM guy playing randomway. and according to OP orig post, he even gave assistance to the team. isnt that lovely? one of the worlds best stepping down to have some fun?

and now f'in tombs based guilds who play ranger/bloodspike telling us its no big deal? omg!

TheMosesPHD

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Oregon

Mo Mo Patty Blinks [MoMo]

R/

09 Aug 2006 at 08:06 - 12

Meh, high ranks randomway it all the time. It's quite fun and with the exception of a few people who don't catch on to the obvious nature of the group, everyone usually automatically understands that it's randomway. So it's nice because you run in no stress or worries and just kill stuff. You get killed, you go back in a few times then ppl split or w/e.
Everyone should try it out every once in a while, it's a great way to throw out the stress of having been in a serious group for a while.

Arturo02

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

See that third planet from the sun?

Sacred Forge Knights

R/Me

09 Aug 2006 at 08:07 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zui

I honestly find nothing remarkable about this. So a guy from War Machine was playing Randomway. Big deal.

You are blind if you miss the message this sends to anyone who wants to pvp but is afraid those who are good at it look down upon anyone who tries to pvp.

When someone in a top pvp guild does what the guy in WM did, it can only foster interest in pvp.

It doesn't help the myth that pvpers are eliteist when the people on the other side help keep the falsehood alive by discounting what happened.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

09 Aug 2006 at 08:33 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturo02

When someone in a top pvp guild does what the guy in WM did, it can only foster interest in pvp.

No, it means WM doesn't usually (at all?) do HA as a guild. He's also not likely to have a high ranking, if any at all, like most top guilds do. Honestly, I can't even think of a korean guild that does HA regularly or think of the last time I've seen them hold favor, so he'd have nothing to do but PUG it.

Angelica

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Aussie land

Me/E

09 Aug 2006 at 08:41 - 15

He must be a very, very nice guy!

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

09 Aug 2006 at 09:57 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arturo02

You are blind if you miss the message this sends to anyone who wants to pvp but is afraid those who are good at it look down upon anyone who tries to pvp.

When someone in a top pvp guild does what the guy in WM did, it can only foster interest in pvp.

It doesn't help the myth that pvpers are eliteist when the people on the other side help keep the falsehood alive by discounting what happened.

Thanks for pointing that out, this was actually my goal of the thread. I know PvP is suffering from mass elitist but having something like this happens shows that even at the highest end of the ladder there are still people willing to just have fun rather than get caught up in fame farming so that they can just troll down on other groups.

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

09 Aug 2006 at 10:37 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

No, it means WM doesn't usually (at all?) do HA as a guild. He's also not likely to have a high ranking, if any at all, like most top guilds do. Honestly, I can't even think of a korean guild that does HA regularly or think of the last time I've seen them hold favor, so he'd have nothing to do but PUG it.

Or, he's just a nice guy and wants to help others still getting their feet wet. I've played with WM people, they are, with the exception of iQ, some of the nicest people I've GvG'd with from high ranked guilds.

Sweetest

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

W/

09 Aug 2006 at 11:56 - 18

War Machine [WM] has 100 members, 10 on its tournament roster.
besides the core, the rest of War machine arnt exactly 'top' tier, considering there is members who havent signed on in 2-3 months or go to Random arenas korean district 1, you'll see a bunch of people with the WM tag / cape that uve never heard of, and are horrrible, the only req to get into WM is to have a korean account playing on korean servers, but i think the main WM is full and they are sending people to Universal now, anyways grats @ playing with the korean equivalant of XoO =/

obsidian shard

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Empty Skillbars

Me/

09 Aug 2006 at 12:45 - 19

yeah, there is a lot of people who buy their way into top guilds, this guy must be one... 500k to get in Last Pride [EvIL] btw guys, no joke, theyre selling places, and WM are too

shou wu qi! ;p

gg, well done for pugging with a WM random anyway =)

Cyan The Archer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

R/

09 Aug 2006 at 15:26 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken

No, it means WM doesn't usually (at all?) do HA as a guild. He's also not likely to have a high ranking, if any at all, like most top guilds do. Honestly, I can't even think of a korean guild that does HA regularly or think of the last time I've seen them hold favor, so he'd have nothing to do but PUG it.

I'm quite sure some of the high-ranked players would accept a player with silver trim.

TalonTheCat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Black Cat Guild

Mo/

09 Aug 2006 at 16:10 - 21

*Sigh* I must not be as geeky as I thought

What does the silver trim indicate?

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

09 Aug 2006 at 16:11 - 22

I haven't played with WM, but I've gone against them in HA. Nothing quite as disheartening as seeing [Rnub], [EViL], and [WM] in one team against your pathetic little IWAY. I can say that they were very friendly and they squashed us into a bloody pulp though.

The reason why this is amazing is the (not mythical) elitism in many of the top guilds. The average new player in PvP has no one to play with, no one wants to play with them, and if, god forbid, they actually manage to get into a group, they are immediately ridiculed for being new.

Not that I don't understand where it comes from, but it makes PvP a very unhealthy environment for new players.

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

09 Aug 2006 at 17:18 - 23

that be very cool, i have not done ha myself and it's always cool to learn from a pro

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

09 Aug 2006 at 17:21 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalonTheCat

*Sigh* I must not be as geeky as I thought

What does the silver trim indicate?

it was like second place or something in the tournament

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

09 Aug 2006 at 17:25 - 25

I randompug with people all the time, but I don't see them making topics about it!

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

09 Aug 2006 at 17:27 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by -Loki-

Or, he's just a nice guy and wants to help others still getting their feet wet. I've played with WM people, they are, with the exception of iQ, some of the nicest people I've GvG'd with from high ranked guilds.

no i think 3/4 of KGYU have iQ beaten hands down as far as being assholes go.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by TalonTheCat

*Sigh* I must not be as geeky as I thought

What does the silver trim indicate?

the silver trim means that they placed in the top 16 of the guilds in the last ladder season. unlike the gold trims which are permanent, these can disappear if you dont remake the top 16 next ladder season.

capitalist

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

09 Aug 2006 at 17:51 - 27

I am not sure why people have to hate on this guy for posting this. It was a big deal for him, he had a good time with it, the end. It is unnecessary to post crap like "big deal" "WM sucks at HA" etc. Is there any point to that?

TalonTheCat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

Black Cat Guild

Mo/

09 Aug 2006 at 18:36 - 28

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

the silver trim means that they placed in the top 16 of the guilds in the last ladder season. unlike the gold trims which are permanent, these can disappear if you dont remake the top 16 next ladder season.

Some of you could tell this was coming ...

What does the permanent gold trim mean?

Guillaume De Sonoma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

aFk

Me/Rt

09 Aug 2006 at 20:12 - 29

Gold means first place and it is a permanent thing

Zoron Stormbringer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

09 Aug 2006 at 20:46 - 30

Jeez, why must people player-hate all the time.

The WM guy was nice enough to play with a PUG group. No, he shouldn’t get a cookie for that but he should be insulted for it either.

The OP posted that a guy from WM pugged with him. Again, why must people find fault with that. If the OP thought it was a cool/nice thing for the OP, then it is.

Who gives a damn whether the WM guy is one out of a 100 WM players. He is in WM and he obviously knew what he was doing (per the OP).

And what is this I keep reading about “oh, well he probably had no choice because no one in his guild does HOH.”

People can’t seriously think that if people in HOH saw the following:

1) Rank 3 unknown person LFG for ____________

2) Person X (from WM but not blatantly showing his tag) LFG for_________ that most non “leet” groups wouldn’t pick the guy up. (Note my use of the phrase “non-leet” group because a good many HOH groups are high rank/reputation only groups. Meaning you have to be high ranked and have to be “known” on their friends list).

Now who do you think is gonna get picked? Rank 3 IWAY or WM, Evil, ZPZP, Te, IQ, etc?

I am not in a high ranked guild. But just because my guild isn’t that high ranked means that I have to go around bashing high ranked guilds to make myself feel better.

In some people’s eyes, that WM guy is evidently damned if he does/damned if he doesn’t.

Another thing, as to just being a member of the guild.

You know what, if you are the bench warmer on Michael Jordan’ team and Michael Jordan goes out demolishes your team, you are fully within your rights to say “yeah, my team is better than yours.” That is the reality of life and goes for pretty much every sport.

No one says “oh, well yeah, they just have Joe Montana on their team, that’s why they won.” No, they won. Plain and simple.

(So if WM wins, they win and every member even if he/she bought his way in is entitled to tell you “WE” beat you.). That’s right, “WE.”

Passing Death

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Pink Trouser Villains

A/E

09 Aug 2006 at 20:59 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by MistressYichi

no i think 3/4 of KGYU have iQ beaten hands down as far as being assholes go.....

Dont hate on iQ...ever played with Lucis and Lara?... or remember pRp's guild name? both of the are some of the nicest people i play with in gw...

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

09 Aug 2006 at 22:57 - 32

I think u should all appreciat that WM guy for his Mursaat hammer

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

10 Aug 2006 at 17:23 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Passing Death

Dont hate on iQ...ever played with Lucis and Lara?... or remember pRp's guild name? both of the are some of the nicest people i play with in gw...

actually yes i have. i have played both with them and against them. I never singled out ANYONE on either team. You misread my post. I said that some people in iq were assholes, but most if not all of KGYU has them beat.