Menzies And Dhuum - The Superteam
ChuckNorrispwns
I have a theory:
It is almost certain know that Dhuum will be the main evil dude in NF, but what about Menzies?
Maybe these two gods (menzies might be a demi-god?) team up.
Perhaps a powerful sage of some kind summons the great and powerful Dhuum - who kills the Sage and trys to get his old army of the Grasps free from their bonds - when he realises he can't by himself he seeks the help of Menzies - and together they spread an evil like no other!
discuss?
It is almost certain know that Dhuum will be the main evil dude in NF, but what about Menzies?
Maybe these two gods (menzies might be a demi-god?) team up.
Perhaps a powerful sage of some kind summons the great and powerful Dhuum - who kills the Sage and trys to get his old army of the Grasps free from their bonds - when he realises he can't by himself he seeks the help of Menzies - and together they spread an evil like no other!
discuss?
Avarre
May I enquire on the logic jump that brought you past the fact that Dhumm is dead?
MMSDome
nvm i wiki'ed who Dhuum is.
I have also noticed a similarity between this game and Lord of the Rings. In Lord of the Rings there is a Bridge called "The Bridge of Khazad Dum" And in the four horsemen quest yu have 4 horsemen coming and one is named "Kazhad Dhuum"
Coincidence? I think not.
I have also noticed a similarity between this game and Lord of the Rings. In Lord of the Rings there is a Bridge called "The Bridge of Khazad Dum" And in the four horsemen quest yu have 4 horsemen coming and one is named "Kazhad Dhuum"
Coincidence? I think not.
Avarre
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
sorry to be so dumb but who is dhum?
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Yes, that's a possible reference, as well as the Four Horsemen are a traditional symbol of the Apocalypse.
Paperfly
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May I enquire on the logic jump that brought you past the fact that Dhumm is dead? |
Gee, no-one could ever think of a trumped-up way to resurrect the ex god of death!
Theus
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Originally Posted by Avarre
May I enquire on the logic jump that brought you past the fact that Dhumm is dead?
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So a Paragon Cult who worshiped Dhuum used an age old ritual to revive Dhuum by using a Paragon as a vessel.So there may be a tainted Paragon who has the ability to transform into the Avatar of Dhuum.
xBakox
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Anyways...it could be Menzies. And Dhuum probably made it out alive somehow, and at the end of Nightfall you dont kill him, just force him out. He will be the Lex Luther of Guild Wars, or whatever other supervillan you can think of.
Plushie Penguin
can't kill a god..... and even if Dhuum was "killed" by grenth, he would show up in the underworld or Fow, maybe as a spirit... but he was a bad, bad death god
Arkantos
Everyone thought Dracula was dead, but he always came back. What makes you think a God can't come back from death?
GloryFox
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posted by Avarre May I enquire on the logic jump that brought you past the fact that Dhumm is dead? |
BTW Avarre usualy I agree with 90% of your posts however I disagree on this one. And keep up the good fight for all Mesmers everywhere.
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Taken from Gwiki "Before the time of Grenth, when death was ruled by a cruel and unjust god, there stood a tower and a throne on this very plain. But Grenth rose up and destroyed the one called Dhuum and shattered down his tower, leaving only these storms of chaos as a reminder of the power that once held dominion here. My vigil over these lands was broken for a time, and I can feel a resurgence of the old taint. Four horsemen approach, riders of Dhuum. Destroy them before they can reclaim this place and throw the underworld into chaos!" |
NinjaKai
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
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MMSDome
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Everyone thought Dracula was dead, but he always came back. What makes you think a God can't come back from death?
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Silver_Fang
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
your forgetting Freddy Crouger and Jason they never die!
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Arkantos
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
your forgetting Freddy Crouger and Jason they never die!
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OMG Freddy came back alive at the end of nightmare in the elm street, the very first one i think.
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Silver_Fang
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Umm....ya?
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Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
Coincidence? I think not.
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The story of Nightfall may well be to STOP Dhuum from reforming after being scattered by Grenth.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
Let's not forget Thulsa Doom either.
The story of Nightfall may well be to STOP Dhuum from reforming after being scattered by Grenth. |
Avarre
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Originally Posted by GloryFox
Destroyed does not mean dead. I know a few business men in real life who were destroyed. They are still alive and well just poor and ignored.
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The paragon/dervish vessel seems viable though. However, we still haven't had any proof, people just picked on the name
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Do you think a battle that reduced part of the underworld to shattered sand and rifts of infernal light ended with a 'now run along, Dhumm!' from Grenth?!
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Avarre
Well that explains everything.
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by Arkantos
So like the opposite of what happened to osiris?
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Lordhelmos
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Originally Posted by Avarre
Well that explains everything.
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Avarre
Only main characters get to come back
If he is a main character in Nightfall, that will allow him to be alive to be the main character. Damn Anet and their cyclical ressurection logic!
If he is a main character in Nightfall, that will allow him to be alive to be the main character. Damn Anet and their cyclical ressurection logic!
gene terrodon
Well, it is only presumed Dhumm was killed as the story is the account from one "witness."
Who know's how reliable that is.
Also, that fact that there are Dhuum riders trying to take back UW, hints at his survival. They aren't trying to do this on their own.
"Before the time of Grenth, when death was ruled by a cruel and unjust god, there stood a tower and a throne on this very plain. But Grenth rose up and destroyed the one called Dhuum and shattered down his tower, leaving only these storms of chaos as a reminder of the power that once held dominion here. My vigil over these lands was broken for a time, and I can feel a resurgence of the old taint. Four horsemen approach, riders of Dhuum. Destroy them before they can reclaim this place and throw the underworld into chaos!"
source: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dhuum
Who know's how reliable that is.
Also, that fact that there are Dhuum riders trying to take back UW, hints at his survival. They aren't trying to do this on their own.
"Before the time of Grenth, when death was ruled by a cruel and unjust god, there stood a tower and a throne on this very plain. But Grenth rose up and destroyed the one called Dhuum and shattered down his tower, leaving only these storms of chaos as a reminder of the power that once held dominion here. My vigil over these lands was broken for a time, and I can feel a resurgence of the old taint. Four horsemen approach, riders of Dhuum. Destroy them before they can reclaim this place and throw the underworld into chaos!"
source: http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Dhuum
Shyft the Pyro
The GW gods never claim to be all-powerful. If we're talking about a battle between two gods, it is highly unlikely that one would be able to completely annihilate another. The Chaos Rifts (in Factions and Tombs) would imply that it is indeed Dhuum that's trying to regain a foothold/following in the world since (apparently) player actions in UW stop his plans there.
I don't honestly think there is a better way to describe Dhuum than the "outcast god" in the Nightfall storyline. "Casting out" another god is precisely what I see resulting from direct conflict between two gods, especially gods fighting over a specific domain. The winner could then "expel" or "cast out" the loser, and the loser would get less powerful because of not having the same power base as before, but it doesn't mean the loser would be destroyed. Gods have this habit of preparing for things like that, you know
I don't honestly think there is a better way to describe Dhuum than the "outcast god" in the Nightfall storyline. "Casting out" another god is precisely what I see resulting from direct conflict between two gods, especially gods fighting over a specific domain. The winner could then "expel" or "cast out" the loser, and the loser would get less powerful because of not having the same power base as before, but it doesn't mean the loser would be destroyed. Gods have this habit of preparing for things like that, you know