Monk FoW Armor Dying Weird

Sy Kosys

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Join Date: Feb 2006

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As some of you may know, the monk FoW armor now dyes differently then it once did. It used to dye inversely (orange dye makes like a teal), but now it dyes directly (orange dye makes dull orange armor). This really upset me when I found out right before buying my FoW for my monk. I asked Gaile Gray about it, and she said it might have been cataloged differently, ie. instead of being set as metal, it was set to cloth. A-Net if you see this, please change it back so the colors arent boring looking, and are actually bright and cheery.

Thanks,
Sy Kosys

Dauntless

Dauntless

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

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I don't have any FoW armors let alone the monk set but correct me if I'm wrong when I say I think only the Aesthetics set dyes inversely. Any other set would dye normally. Again I could be wrong.

Mustache Mayhem

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

BEN

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ah that's good to know.. I remember going through dyes on monk fow last year and it did dye funny- black was black but the other colors would go on inversed.. guessing because it's base color was changed (which is what you get with dye remover).. I wonder if this is the same on older sets

Two April Mornings

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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good to know, thanks

KamikazeChicken

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dauntless
I don't have any FoW armors let alone the monk set but correct me if I'm wrong when I say I think only the Aesthetics set dyes inversely. Any other set would dye normally. Again I could be wrong.
No, monk FoW used to dye inversely. Aesthetic armor has never dyed inversely.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

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New ascetics dyes correctly ever since they labelled new armours "Obsidian Armour" and it isn't possible to get the armour tht dyes inversely. The old ascetics dyed much more vibrantly whereas the new stuff is dull

Natalie Bredesfjord

Natalie Bredesfjord

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Mo/Me

Oh i didn't know that, thanks for posting it

Franzwald

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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I agree. It's completely LAME. I've tried every combination I can think of and all I ever end up with is a dull shade of whatever color I'm trying to apply. Guess I'll have to just go with black, seeing as that's about the only color that actually looks good on the new monk astetics obsidian armor.

shaolin mind trick

shaolin mind trick

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Yeah, I was really disappointed in this too. Wasted so much cash on dyes trying to find a decent look... and im opposed to plain black.

Currently using blue + s + s + s, but it's bland, and I need a new mix.

If anyone comes across a half-decent combo, spread the word...

Guess bl can = black or blue..

Probably should have made that more clear.. sorry.

BeatWolf

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Join Date: Jul 2005

black + 3 silver? what where you thinking.

knoll

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Yea i was mad about this when I got my monk FoW, I endend up dyeing it red, IMo the only non-dull color. I want the bright blue.

Franzwald

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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Yea, I would like something bright as well. I wasted over 15K in dyes that I had stockpiled (+ more) trying to find the right combo only to find every single one I tried came out dull and lack-luster.

I'm currently using green + blue + green which turned out a forest green color.

Phaern Majes

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Heh maybe I shouldn't mention my black, black, black, red combo that turned out to be crap. Black + Red though is pretty good.

Franzwald

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What exactly does red + black look like?

The Real Ryan B

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

Moa Birds

After saving up for so long I was VERY dissapointed with this change.

shaolin mind trick

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I've been playing around with more dye combos. This is one of my favorites so far, but it doesn't suit this monk all that well.



Blue + Purple + Red

For the record though, plain silver doesn't look too shabby..
Still trying to get to that lovely pre-update teal, but can't even get close. Everything is too dull.

Narutoscryed

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fow armor needs black dye.... thats all there is too it..

any thing else is like trying to eat cookies with orange juice... it just wont work out for ya.

Ghost Recon

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Well they need too update the old stuff/new stuff as one of my char's has half and half so i have to dye it all black if i want it too match.

saphir

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

doa

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that's unfortunate w/ the new fow armors. is this the bright blue being talked about? i dyed mine i think it was red+green which if memory serves, gives some sort of funky orange mixed dye. it was an accident while i was trying to mix a maroon color, but was thrown for a loop by the odd way my armor reacted to the dyes, being ascetics.

The Real Ryan B

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

Moa Birds

That blue is an example of the colors that you can no longer get, yes. I don't understand why this was changed. The price of the armor went up (adding shards) which I can live with, but they should have left the bright colors.

Please change it back!

Aera Lure

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This topic relates to one of my "I always wondered why.." thoughts i have while playing GW. I have quite a few of these. This one is namely:

I've always wondered why dye cant work from a neutral base. We know it doesnt, because the base color or type of the armor piece in question comes into play. Question is why? Armor is basically a .png or some other image file wrapped around a 3d character model, lighting effects applied. There is a default coloration for said armor piece, granted. Why cant when a dye is applied a neutral armor piece image file is referenced (better yet, the original is actually neutral, but default coloration is a dye state, but has no effect on dyes applied, and it reverts to this on use of dye remover) and when dye is applied so that - oh the wonders - you get that color. ^^ Would be kind of nice.

shaolin mind trick

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Ok, decided to make a chart for the 'new' fow monk armor

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3...yecharthe6.png

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For those that have it.

technician

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Mo/Me

Yeah please bring back the vibrant colors Anet. I don't even see why updating the armors with such dull and bland colors , it makes no sense to me at all .

Mammoth

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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I'm actually not that dissapointed with it, but i will admit, having some of the bright colors would be nice...

however, the main color i was originally planning to get and still use, plain red, is only possible with the non-inverse dying, i've seen attempts on the old version and it just didnt look as good to me (it was more purple-ish)


Maybe we need some kind of thing like a dye remover, but instead a dye inverter

TalonTheCat

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Join Date: Jan 2006

USA

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Glad I saw this thread - I am about to get my first FoW set - for my monk, and I have been drooling over the old color/dye charts, and was looking forward to trying out some bright colors... but now....

xiaotsu

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They can't "change it back" without removing shards from the materials needed <_< Dyes change slightly depending on WHAT you apply it to...

Shakti

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Narutoscryed
fow armor needs black dye.... thats all there is too it..

any thing else is like trying to eat cookies with orange juice... it just wont work out for ya.
LOL I agree...I liiked the old bright colors it'd dye, but you can't beat black monk FOW. I play with color on some armor sets (purple+green is the best blue on monk tats btw) but for my monk fow its all about rockin' the blacck