Nightfall Bonus Pack, Preorder or not?

Has anyone else noticed the status of the nightfall bonus pack has changed from a free preorder bonus item to at least an extra 5 bucks? Originally it said it was a preorder bonus for dropping a down payment for the actual game, now they've changed it so it's an extra expense. Kinda sneaky if you've already preordered the normal version online.... Might as well spend 10 bucks for a char slot online and save the extra 10 it'll cost in gas.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?p...%5Fid=B646706A
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=646706

Actually, it never claimed to be a preorder package, that's just what EB labelled it as. ANet has simply classified it as a nightfall prerelease (as in before release) package It's status with regard to whether or not it is consider a preorder is still a little bit cloudy. If someone from ANet could clear this up, it would be greatly appreciated. I fully intend to buy it myself, but I'm sure there's more than a few people who want to know if the amount they've paid for it will be deducted from their cost of the final release.

Well, from seeing those two pages, it sure seems like the preorder will cost more and not be deducted, and I will buy the preorder either way, but it would be nice if some Arena Net employee like gaile or someone could clear this up.

Also, anyone notice how it says "Pre-Release Ships 10/26/06" right next to the price and "add to cart" button? Is that basically confirmation that nightfall releases late october/early november? I sorta hope it is, but then I also want it to come out like a half-a-month to a month later, enspecially if there is going to be a one or two day event thing for the pre-release! (isn't that how long the tengu one was?) It would be about the middle to endish of the marching season and during the marching season, I have almost no free time! Then again they could also just make the event a week long, or longer....but I doubt they would do something like that just for one person...

Maybe it's just a typo, but the blurb for the starter kit one says:

I thought the pre-(whatever) came with both?

It's probably correct either way you look at it. You can probably get both items, but only one per character. Didn't they do it that way with the original release of GW?

I knew it was fishy when they don't have a pre-order, but now instead a pre-release. And people thought they were getting a "bonus" slot for free.

Ha!

If I have the money (Hahahah) I'll defiantley pre-order it. I need factions, first. -_-''

at the very least they are getting a half price slot plus the other goodies.

also there are conflicts between what the Anet site says and the non Anet store information.

i will wait until they both say the same thing before making any conclusions on it.

Best Buy charged $9.99 for both the GW and GWF pre-order kits and didn't tell you to bring them back in or the reciet to get $10 off retail >< when you buy it.

I would hold of on judgement on if Anet started charging for the kit or if it's the retailers based on how other outlets are handling it.

It may be true but not enough evidence or any responses yet from Gaile/Alex/Patrick to know this early.

If it is ture, your paying for a slot upgrade that comes with some cool promo stuff as well as some special weapons in game.

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Anyway, I was over at gwonline.net reading through a Gaile chat log dated Aug 9 and I found this:




-notice she says set of items, so you should get both the spear and the scythe.

Not entirely on-topic, but in case anyone is confused about the slots:




Note* if you get the pre-release package; you get the third slot when you activate your nightfall retail key

But do we get any bonus items if we only get the ordinary preorder? I'm not interested in more slots.

I believe the pre-release replaces the pre-order.

Although that Gaile quote just confused me more...

Stores will choose:

• how much the pre-release costs

• whether they deduct the price from the Retail release

?!?

Hmmm, last time Gaile said that Anet made no money off of the "pre-order." I wonder if that policy changed.

Still, even if Anet is making money, it seems strange that the store gets so much control over Anet's product. All in all, seems like a bad situation for Joe Consumer. We have to shop around and find the best deal, and hope we don't get screwed in the end.

no

as noted at the gamestop store the Nightfall for 49.99 you can preorder has no bonus items at all (including slot)

all you are doing is reserving a copy of the game.

Its funny how everyone jumped into conclusions that the pre release bonus pack was the same as pre orders. And blind leading the blind when several other forums members echoed that it was the same as the pre-order.

Pre-release Bonus packs sell you an extra slot and its own bonus items and preview of the game. You will still need to Preorder Nightfall SE/CE if you want the full game. The only down side to this is that if you bought the Pre-release bonus pack and feel that you dont like it, its unlikely you will be able to do anything else with the pre-release pack (Nightfall content for pre-release bonus will cease after release and Nightfall characters will be locked possibly) This Anet fails to tell everyone.

There will also likely also to be another set of events catered specially for those who buy the pre-release bonus pack and a seperate one for the pre-order to encourage players to get both.

Now the problem lies in it that there no harm done if Nightfall was the best thing since sliced bread, but if you didnt like Nightfall for whatever reasons after buying and playing the pre-release pack and choose not to pre-order/buy Nightfall, i wonder about the fate of your created characters in Nightfall and the support you will likely get for it from Anet....

Well, that's certainly a possibility. But, how do you know you are right and we are wrong? Do you have any proof there will be a pre-order? The quote from Gaile certainly doesn't convince me you're right.

Huh? Pure speculation. And I highly doubt it, for the work it would cause Anet. Why run two previews when you can run one? To make an extra $5 that we're not even sure is going to Anet in the first place?

Well, what was the fate of those characters created with the Faction pre-order. Are they still being stored by Anet until the customer buys the full version?

so far that is incorrect as i have only seen the bonus items listed as a full game purchase price.

example gamestop has it for 54.99 plus tax/s&h

i have found no store so far offering a preorder with the bonus items at 10 dollars or any other price.

i have found a non bonus item preorder for 49.99 however

I don't think there will be a pre-order package at all, just a pre-release bonus package. Of course, most retailers will allow you to pre-order Nightfall (with no bonuses), like they would any game.

You can bet Best Buy will sell the Pre-release bonus pack for $10. They sold the Factions pre-order disc for $10, and left it up to the customer to fend for themselves in getting a copy of the release. It wasn't a "reservation" in any sense of the word. This is perfect for them (and might have been implemented especially for big box stores like Wal-mart and Best Buy).

I'm hoping I can find a dealer who will offer a discount for buying the pre-release, although I'm not optimistic. If someone does find such a place, I'd hope they'd post it here!