The Scribe - 8/10/06

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

The Scribe

No, I'm not in it, even for my work in helping newbies in The Deep and Urgoz's Warren. I'm quite surprised (considering many people thought I was a shoo-in). The Scribe really needs to stick her head outside of the main cities sometimes.

Ah well.

I, of course, love the irony that The Scribe fails to mention the normal method of entering the Elite Missions...newbies are going to be very, very, confused.

Venom4112

Venom4112

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

We are all pretty [Ugly]

Mo/Me

Did you read the entire thing?
It talks about Sardelec, which is in no way a main city.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Venom4112
Did you read the entire thing?
It talks about Sardelec, which is in no way a main city.
I was refering to the "Random Acts of Kindness," which always contains players in Lion's Arch, Shing Jea, etc.

I'm not even going to contemplate the lore flaw that was present in the Urgoz/Deep section (how exactly do you talk to Mhleno at Sardelac Sanitarium if he out killing both White Mantle and Shiro? Then again, that's a lore flaw in itself.)

fallot

I'm the king

Join Date: Nov 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew: Grand Phallus and Chairman Pro Tempore

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I'm quite surprised (considering many people thought I was a shoo-in).
Delusions of grandeur ? Its a little much to expect your name to come up in this, regardless of your actions.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I was refering to the "Random Acts of Kindness," which always contains players in Lion's Arch, Shing Jea, etc.

I'm not even going to contemplate the lore flaw that was present in the Urgoz/Deep section (how exactly do you talk to Mhleno at Sardelac Sanitarium if he out killing both White Mantle and Shiro? Then again, that's a lore flaw in itself.)
It isnt a Flaw (On either count).

Mhenlo never kills White Mantle and Shiro at the same time. The Factions storyline takes place (time line wise) during your initial visit to Lion's Arch. Many just ASSUME (wrongly) that Factions takes place after Tyria's storyline, when infact it is in the middle of it.

Also for someone that has beaten the Lich, It is safe to assume that with the troubles over that the Heros of Ascalon would return home - so of course Mhenlo would have taken back over his responibilities at the Sanitarium.

Caethas Turan

Caethas Turan

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Auckland, New Zealand

Reapers of Oblivion [Ruin]

Wow.

Isn't the reward in what you do and not what people say about you?

Canadian Bacon

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Ontario, Canada

Kingdom of Tyria [KoT]

Acknowledging the efforts of helpful people in the game is great in concept, but the way the Scribe chooses to do it is...well, not really representative of the true game environment. There are TONS of people who help in all areas of the game, not just the main cities. Those people have zero chance of being recognized. Even within the main cities, the chances of being noticed by the scribe are slim to none. I myself spend alot of time helping new people in Ascalon City. I do it because I want to, and I don't desire recognition, although I have been told numerous times that I deserve it. I always help via PMs, because it is far easier. Maybe I am wrong, but don't most people help via whispers? The Scribe obviously can't see whispers between people, so that eliminates a whole chunk of people even within the large cities.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I was refering to the "Random Acts of Kindness," which always contains players in Lion's Arch, Shing Jea, etc.

I'm not even going to contemplate the lore flaw that was present in the Urgoz/Deep section (how exactly do you talk to Mhleno at Sardelac Sanitarium if he out killing both White Mantle and Shiro? Then again, that's a lore flaw in itself.)
Its not a lore flaw, its progression in the storyline..

Branskins

Branskins

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2005

Mad the scribe because you were not mentioned out of the other hundreds of people who help everyone daily?

It also comes down to where the scribe is and what he sees when he is on.

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

everybody wants their 15 minutes

pigdestroyer

pigdestroyer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Chavos Del [ocho]

W/

half of the time you were making your witty remarks and calling everyone "newbie"

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

we all just need to remember that the scribe exist to enchance the Role playing feel to the game that it solely lacks on its own and providing detailed information is not its primary but rather secondary purpose.

Enjoy it if you find the Lore entertaining, disregard it if you feel otherwise.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

From what I see, the scribe only notices people who are obviously "kind" (yelling across LA to the guy on the other side via ALL chat), or people that he goes and "hangs out" with.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
From what I see, the scribe only notices people who are obviously "kind" (yelling across LA to the guy on the other side via ALL chat), or people that he goes and "hangs out" with.
Maybe that is because the scribe doesn't have the time to question everybody in an already spammy town.
Anyway, people who expect a reward for their kindness, are not kind at all. Most acts of kindness go unnoticed.

Yawgmoth

Yawgmoth

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2005

That's why they're called "RANDOM acts of kindness" - there's lots of luck involwed in getting mentioned, just because they can't track all the good deeds.

QuuTip

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
The Scribe

WTF, why am I not mentioned in The Scribe? I mean, I wrote a (controversial and biased) guide on this forum and do not get mentioned?

I demand my 15 minutes of internet fame. NOW.
Fixed for you.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Anyway, people who expect a reward for their kindness, are not kind at all. Most acts of kindness go unnoticed.
This is the truth.

Sli Ander

Sli Ander

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Deep in Maguuma, by the Falls

Liberators of Agony

Mo/R

Unfortunately the advent of the scribe has brought about people who give away things, help others in all chat, etc. purely to get noticed. But at least people are getting helped, so why complain?

BBQRibs

BBQRibs

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I was refering to the "Random Acts of Kindness," which always contains players in Lion's Arch, Shing Jea, etc.
Maybe if its recognition (and attention) that you desire, you should only help people in these cities. Make sure to preceed any helpful comments in All Chat with "ATTENTION SCRIBE, ITS ME, I'M HELPING SOMEONE NOW".

I think its extremely unfair to criticize the Scribe for not recognizing the apparent greatness of you; one player among hundreds of thousands. That would be like if the New York Times had 5 employees and people got mad because they didn't cover a story about a cat stuck in a tree on Long Island.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by BBQRibs
That would be like if the New York Times had 5 employees and people got mad because they didn't cover a story about a cat stuck in a tree on Long Island.
What! They didn't write about Fluffy?! This is outrageous, they must be sued!

Cats aside, I wasn't putting down the scribe, I was making a point. If you want to get noticed, yell helpful looking messages in Lion's Arch or Shing Jea. I doubt this Monk (they told us this much) can read minds, or whispers of others for that matter.

DFrost

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

Maybe the Scribe plays an A/Me, got kicked out of an elite mission group, and now holds a personal grudge against you. He probably has a little post-it note attached to his screen saying "Do not mention Syria Blackblood in future articles".

Divinus Stella

Divinus Stella

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Wales

Steel Phoenix

Perhaps it was the noobs helping you thru the elite missions, after all you didnt do it solo did you? there was a team of 11 others also there doing the mission.
You got drops for doing the missions, along with everyone else, what makes you so special?

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

If the sole reason for your writing of that rather incomplete and biased guide was to get into the Scribe, it's not a random act of kindness. It's an act of attention-seeking.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Rereading the post, I sound a bit arrogant.

But in order to stop the baseless accusations, this was what I did for most of the Elite Mission Weekend.



I'm just surprised that The Scribe wouldn't have seen that message (let alone anyone else in this topic), since it was a special event. Not dissappointed, it wasn't my only intention, I'm just surprised.

(PS: That guide wasn't biased. I only received about 2 questions total about the Mesmer and the Assassin roles...out of maybe 200.)

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
Rereading the post, I sound a bit arrogant.

But in order to stop the baseless accusations, this was what I did for most of the Elite Mission Weekend.



I'm just surprised that The Scribe wouldn't have seen that message (let alone anyone else in this topic), since it was a special event. Not dissappointed, it wasn't my only intention, I'm just surprised.

(PS: That guide wasn't biased. I only received about 2 questions total about the Mesmer and the Assassin roles...out of maybe 200.)
Still, if you did it only to get into the Scribe, it's NOT a random act of kindness, just one of attention seeking.

Venice Queen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington, DC

A Most Excellent Guild [DUDE]

Mo/Me

If you only do nice things to try and get famous, you shouldn't do them at all.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

How many times have I said it: I did not help out at the missions just to get into the damn Scribe!

I'm just surprised.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I'm just surprised.
How many times am I going to say that if you are suprised than you were doing it for attention?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

[QUOTE]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
How many times have I said it: I did not help out at the missions just to get into the damn Scribe!

I'm just surprised.[/QUOTE]
surprised as in i was expecting to be in it

if getting into the scribe were not your motive you would not be here complaining.

shadowfell

shadowfell

hamonite anur ruk

Join Date: Jan 2006

Echovald Forest

[PhD] Teh Academy

Me/A

I'm inclined to follow the flock on this one. Seems that the OP was aiming for getting his/her name mentioned in the scribe and is now upset that it didn't happen. Oh well. People do nice things for people every day and a lot of them expect nothing for them. The people who expect nothing in return are without motive and this is what the sccribe recognizes. If you are truly helping people for the sake of doing it, than a simple thank you, to you, from the helped should be more than enough. After all, you're helping people, not yourself.