Okay, those from my generation most likely have heard of George Carlins 7 dirty words you cannot say on tv. Ok that said, I suggest, new a setting to our "H" attributes. It would be called Karma, and work as follows.
GW has a minimum and maximum chat filter. For the sake of discussion let's say there were 7 words (nods to George) that offend the most. IF those words are said the person saying them gets a -1 karma rating. If he or she obtains a certain level of negative karma, they deal less damage in combat regardless of their weapon etc. Say -0.05% or whatever is fair. If they continue and reach the next negative plateau, they lose the ability to fight for "x" amount of time. If they still persist they lose the ability to leave a city, and so on.. Until they eventually lose access to the game for again "x" amount of time.
Now before some kiddies vent at me, if you cannot speak without being obscene every other word or phrase, you need help. You can still make yourself understood with the allowable words. i.e:
Instead of calling someone a bastard, you could say "Sir I doubt the legality of your birth!" and watch them melt down trying to figure out what you said.
Worth discussion I'm tired of the foul language that would gag a maggot!
An idea to help curb FOUL language, etc in game..
Enchanted Warrior
|pyro|
/notsigned
Curse words improve language and give it color.
Curse words improve language and give it color.
Dawgboy
Good idea, but they usually can't spell either. They'll just get around it like the "W T B" idiots get around the trade filter.
If you're partied with them and they really annoy you put them on ignore and hope they die. One more reason I like my monk. Seven decent players>Eight players, one of whom is a jerk
If you're partied with them and they really annoy you put them on ignore and hope they die. One more reason I like my monk. Seven decent players>Eight players, one of whom is a jerk
wilebill
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Yes! This is a brilliant idea! I think ANet should implement this at once. There is no excuse for using language in an online game that would get you thrown out of a supermarket or most other business establishments.
Yes! This is a brilliant idea! I think ANet should implement this at once. There is no excuse for using language in an online game that would get you thrown out of a supermarket or most other business establishments.
TopGun
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Sekkira
I suppose we wont be able to say bugger and bloody? :|
Curse You
I have a better idea. If language bothers you, press F11, and turn your Chat Filter to Maximum. If you just dislike those "bothersome" words, turn it to Normal.
Really, this just seems to be going in the direction of one of those games where you just wander around buying clothes in shopping malls, and chat about shoes and other dumb things like that (can you tell I dislike fashon?).
"Oh noes he said the F-word, -500 from his karma!" I can just picture it...
Really, this just seems to be going in the direction of one of those games where you just wander around buying clothes in shopping malls, and chat about shoes and other dumb things like that (can you tell I dislike fashon?).
"Oh noes he said the F-word, -500 from his karma!" I can just picture it...
Divinus Stella
Got a better idea that wont waste anets time.
Turn off local chat.....
Altho, it would be a great way of nerfing IWAY, -99% dmg.
Turn off local chat.....
Altho, it would be a great way of nerfing IWAY, -99% dmg.
Skyy High
Please, you have chat filters already. Let the people who are mature enough to curse among friends in moderation do so without being punished. It's not like this suggestion would do anything at all to stop the pond scum that infests all the major outposts (at the top of the list being the Random Arenas and Temple of Balthazar.) They more often than not don't spell the curses correctly...
Charqus
/not signed
Why should someones bad language affect there gameplay....
If someone swears at me i swear back..... I dont see the point :P
Another thread that should be in sanitarium?
Why should someones bad language affect there gameplay....
If someone swears at me i swear back..... I dont see the point :P
Another thread that should be in sanitarium?
I pwnd U
It's an idea but people would find a way around it as always. ANet does have the chat filter but almost everyone turns it off. What would be an interesting idea would be that when you sign up for GW it ask you your age and then it verifies it through your email address. Then it automatically sets your chat filter for you if you are under a certain age. Of course people would just start lying and using one time email addresses. Either way their really is no way to stop all the cursing.
sinican
wow
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censorship is what makes these words "offensive" and a "big deal" in the first place...
words are words people grow up
there is an obsenity filter use it, if you want to...
people should have the right to say what they want and what they feal as long as it is not threatening...
take for example censorship of sexuality... America is one of the biggest stuck up affiliation period... oh no boobies on tv... people should start to realize that removing censorship deadens the "big deal" out of things like boobies... America is has the strictest censorhsip on sexuality and it has the highest rate of sexually related crimes... compare to other countries with less censorhsip to sexuality have higher populations and have lower rates of sexually related crimes...
if your afraid of life people may you die alone in the safety of your censoring buble!
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censorship is what makes these words "offensive" and a "big deal" in the first place...
words are words people grow up
there is an obsenity filter use it, if you want to...
people should have the right to say what they want and what they feal as long as it is not threatening...
take for example censorship of sexuality... America is one of the biggest stuck up affiliation period... oh no boobies on tv... people should start to realize that removing censorship deadens the "big deal" out of things like boobies... America is has the strictest censorhsip on sexuality and it has the highest rate of sexually related crimes... compare to other countries with less censorhsip to sexuality have higher populations and have lower rates of sexually related crimes...
if your afraid of life people may you die alone in the safety of your censoring buble!
Matix411
I don't disagree with you, but I don't agree with you either.
Swearing has become something habitual to people of this age, sadly.
I swear quite often, and have for as long as I can remember.
Though I do it, I know when to, and when not to.
It can be appropriate at times, i.e. stressing facts or simply because you're fed up, but the obscene use of language, as you said, ". . . in every other word or phrase," is bothersome at times.
But I'd have to agree with the majority.
We already have a chat filter system, there is no need to implement other modes of decreasing the use of profanity and "foul" language.
At most, if the chat is being overwhelmed with bad language, turn off local chat.
The fact of the matter is, if someone decides to swear obscenely in a supermarket and they get kicked out, they're not going to stop swearing.
The same applies to this scenario -- if someone uses language that is prohibited, and recieves a punishment, they're still going to do it, whether in-game or not, and whether it affects their gameplay or not.
The only thing that will decrease the amount of language used in the chat system, is by either banning chat from that user's account for a period of time, whereby said user will continue to swear once the ban is released. Or, ban their account on the whole, which, to be honest would be a pathetic mode of punishment for such a subject.
That's also a good percentage of the GW community to ban for something as mild as common language, that . . . and, sadly, against George Carlin's will, is even used on TV.
Swearing has become something habitual to people of this age, sadly.
I swear quite often, and have for as long as I can remember.
Though I do it, I know when to, and when not to.
It can be appropriate at times, i.e. stressing facts or simply because you're fed up, but the obscene use of language, as you said, ". . . in every other word or phrase," is bothersome at times.
But I'd have to agree with the majority.
We already have a chat filter system, there is no need to implement other modes of decreasing the use of profanity and "foul" language.
At most, if the chat is being overwhelmed with bad language, turn off local chat.
The fact of the matter is, if someone decides to swear obscenely in a supermarket and they get kicked out, they're not going to stop swearing.
The same applies to this scenario -- if someone uses language that is prohibited, and recieves a punishment, they're still going to do it, whether in-game or not, and whether it affects their gameplay or not.
The only thing that will decrease the amount of language used in the chat system, is by either banning chat from that user's account for a period of time, whereby said user will continue to swear once the ban is released. Or, ban their account on the whole, which, to be honest would be a pathetic mode of punishment for such a subject.
That's also a good percentage of the GW community to ban for something as mild as common language, that . . . and, sadly, against George Carlin's will, is even used on TV.
Enchanted Warrior
Okay how aout removing the ----- and just have the word not show in way shape or form, no matter the setting. Then they look even more illiterate than they already do? LOL
So it would be "you noob, you my and my"
Now that would be funny, and make them really look stupid!
So it would be "you noob, you my and my"
Now that would be funny, and make them really look stupid!
Scavenger Rage
I also disagree with your idea to say the least...
Take this very thread as an example, I could curse you for hours for your sense of superiority on people that say the "F-word" or the "R-word" or the "WHOTHEHELLCARES-word" at times of stress or even to joke between friends, BUT, I know now its not the time so I would simply call u a "man that realizes the sex act with another person of the same sex" and "person with an enormous back down on mental intelligence" or anything else, does it makes u fell better?! I still feels upset, and telling "good words" just to avoid censorship makes me fell like I am living on a jail cell. Curses are WORDS, and as so they CANNOT do any physical harm to anyone else, and you should start treating them as so.
Either way, people being able to say what they want is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, no matter in what country or culture (save China) you live in!!! AS it is YOUR right to not listen if you decide to....and there you go, Anet gave us the chat filter to fulfill these rights.
Just to be clear...I am NOT cursing you or anything like it, I was just making a point.
Later.
Take this very thread as an example, I could curse you for hours for your sense of superiority on people that say the "F-word" or the "R-word" or the "WHOTHEHELLCARES-word" at times of stress or even to joke between friends, BUT, I know now its not the time so I would simply call u a "man that realizes the sex act with another person of the same sex" and "person with an enormous back down on mental intelligence" or anything else, does it makes u fell better?! I still feels upset, and telling "good words" just to avoid censorship makes me fell like I am living on a jail cell. Curses are WORDS, and as so they CANNOT do any physical harm to anyone else, and you should start treating them as so.
Either way, people being able to say what they want is a CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT, no matter in what country or culture (save China) you live in!!! AS it is YOUR right to not listen if you decide to....and there you go, Anet gave us the chat filter to fulfill these rights.
Just to be clear...I am NOT cursing you or anything like it, I was just making a point.
Later.
Metanoia
I get the impression you spend a lot of your time arguing with the fabled ~90% of the Guildwars community that're jerks.
Did it ever occur to you that ~90% of the people in the game aren't really jerks?
Did it ever occur to you that your pious, obnoxious and condescending attitude towards your fellow gamers might contribute as to why ~90% of the people you interact with act like jerks towards you?
Did it ever occur to you that ~90% of the people in the game aren't really jerks?
Did it ever occur to you that your pious, obnoxious and condescending attitude towards your fellow gamers might contribute as to why ~90% of the people you interact with act like jerks towards you?
Superdarth
No at least 80% ARE jerks,certainly.
Anyway,great idea i support implenting it!
Anyway,great idea i support implenting it!
Enchanted Warrior
I stand by my words, those that need to be obscene every other word are not very well spoken. If you have a guilty conscience that's not my concern.
tomcruisejr
Foul language spices up the competition.
this is not Guild Treehugging. this is Guild Wars.
Just limit it to the context of the game tho.
this is not Guild Treehugging. this is Guild Wars.
Just limit it to the context of the game tho.
Metanoia
Superdarth, I'm of the mind that the people who spout fallacious statistics like that are usually the abrasive, self-righteous and immature people who spend their time arguing over all-chat. It stands to reason that they'd think such statistics true.
Enchanted Warrior, I was honestly aghast when you mentioned you were over 40. You should be ashamed, acting so immaturely.
Enchanted Warrior, I was honestly aghast when you mentioned you were over 40. You should be ashamed, acting so immaturely.
Demesis
I'm absolutely fine with swearing. I swear all the time.
What gets to me is when the swearing is directed to me or to someone else. Usually me and everyone in my guild curse objects and events. For exapmle how this weekend event has turned out to be acomplete assload of bullsh!t. But we never really direct it at people.... Except for those damn Luxons and noobs.
What gets to me is when the swearing is directed to me or to someone else. Usually me and everyone in my guild curse objects and events. For exapmle how this weekend event has turned out to be acomplete assload of bullsh!t. But we never really direct it at people.... Except for those damn Luxons and noobs.
Rathcail
1. People who curse.
2. People who force limits to others on what words they can use.
Yeah, I like the folks in the first group more.
2. People who force limits to others on what words they can use.
Yeah, I like the folks in the first group more.
Malice Black
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Why should someones bad language affect there gameplay.... If someone swears at me i swear back..... I dont see the point :P Another thread that should be in sanitarium? |
swearing is part of human nature, deal with it
Venice Queen
There's nothing wrong with "foul language" in chat. If you don'twant to read something foul or offensive, turn your filter on.
cjb909
I love the chat filter in this game. If someone wants to swear they can, and I don't have to see it. The best part is that they can see the swear words and don't try to get around the filter. Its people who bypass on purpose that kind of make me sad.
Symbol
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That said the OP's idea is still amazingly horrible, and I'm glad that A.net will never implement any such thing.
Doomlord_Slayermann
I don't swear, damn it!
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Chat filter FTW.
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Chat filter FTW.
Kijik Oni Hanryuu
/notsigned CHAT FILTER FOR THE MOTHER EFFING WIN.. don't nerf the people who cuss like a sailor....oooo how about this anyone who complains about cussing gets their chat filter locked at maximum for a day, andif any of ther words get filteredthenthe lock stays onfor another day etc. foos
Enchanted Warrior
LOL, do the people flaming me realize they are only proving my point?
Hollerith
Mind explaining why anyone would care about swearing in a game that has the chat filter set to 'on' as default?
Enchanted Warrior
Forget it, I'm done.. saddened but done.
Hollerith
Interesting that you think that people disagreeing with you are 'flaming' you. You must be really sensitive. I can only wonder what type of place you live.
You're sad that no one supports your little fascist (for a lack of a better word) ideal where people are punished for swearing (may as well give damage bonuses to everyone that says 'please', 'thanks', and 'good job!').
Personally, I'm thrilled.
You're sad that no one supports your little fascist (for a lack of a better word) ideal where people are punished for swearing (may as well give damage bonuses to everyone that says 'please', 'thanks', and 'good job!').
Personally, I'm thrilled.
Sekkira
There's something I've wanted to understand for a while now. People want censorship of swear words. Now the word is said but bleeped or filtered out somehow. It doesn't change that it was said, it doesn't erase the thought from the receiver's mind. They know the word was said, they know which word was said.
How does a bleep or a ---- make everything better? Because the sound of the cuss word actually hurts their ears? Does the sound make their brain do flips? Put them into convultions? Epileptic seizures? Jesus Christ people, I'd say the ones who want filters are the ones who need to grow up. They're sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling to try and drown out reality.
Get real people. Seriously.
How does a bleep or a ---- make everything better? Because the sound of the cuss word actually hurts their ears? Does the sound make their brain do flips? Put them into convultions? Epileptic seizures? Jesus Christ people, I'd say the ones who want filters are the ones who need to grow up. They're sticking their fingers in their ears and yelling to try and drown out reality.
Get real people. Seriously.
Julianna Wolfe
I could only wish ALL games had such a 'karma' thing. Perhaps the younger sorts would eventually learn that that sort of language is unpleasant.
Enchanted Warrior
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I could only wish ALL games had such a 'karma' thing. Perhaps the younger sorts would eventually learn that that sort of language is unpleasant.
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To all those thinking they got to me, told me off, or made me feel bad.. feh, like anything you have to say matters.. LOL
Malice Black
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I could only wish ALL games had such a 'karma' thing. Perhaps the younger sorts would eventually learn that that sort of language is unpleasant.
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freedom of speech is a god given right..swearing is just a slightly barbaric <sp?> way of communicating
Malice Black
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Im done with this one.