Nightfall In-Game Cinematic [Merged]

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

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How can you call people who dislike the landscapes in the video blind...if you haven't watched the video?

That said, I like the desert areas...bit sparse of course, but hey, they're deserts. The architecture does look sexy.

MoMan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

For those who want to stream (or have ftp blocked):
Regular:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.p...12405&type=mov

HI-DEF:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.p...12404&type=mov

The Last Windseeker

The Last Windseeker

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

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Amazing landscapes. I can't wait for the release.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

With the opening of the store I was contemplating buying Nightfall through there... Now that I hear the music I know I will be buying the CE, Damn Jeremy Soule, damn him!

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Skyy High
How can you call people who dislike the landscapes in the video blind...if you haven't watched the video?

That said, I like the desert areas...bit sparse of course, but hey, they're deserts. The architecture does look sexy.
They are blind if they saw it and didn't like it. The landscapes are beautiful...aside from the Desert, where they manage to reuse the foliage....again.

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

Great footage, and amazing visuals! I really enjoyed the city with a fountain and blue rivers, remind me of LA but alot more colourful. Looks like a more cheerful atmosphere imo, compared to dark and almost depressing look of factions.

Ishmaeel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

I remember being thrilled with the first in-game cinematic of Factions. The monsters and landscapes were awesome.

Here's my reaction after seeing this one : "...and?"

Yeah, couple of good landscapes and awesome visuals, but, nothing to increase my heartbeat. Same old, same old. I especially did not care for the monster designs.

I hope there are more up their sleeves that did not make it to this movie. Awaiting PvE weekend now.

Sagaris

Sagaris

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands.

How hard I try to not love Guild Wars... it always fails. The trailer is beautifull... as always.

Though my only minor... uhm... drawback involves the Paragon. When he/she throws his spear, it just respawns in it's hand. Could've been done better imho.

RinkXing

RinkXing

Academy Page

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

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This has to be THE most amazing looking GW chapter thus far, and arguably the best looking area will probably be in this game.

I'm amazed, they're really going to town with this chapter, hopefully it will play at least half as good as the way it looks.

kimahri

kimahri

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

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Whoa, I so totally agree with everything especially that about the thing.

gene terrodon

gene terrodon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

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What do you think about the winged creatures and that giant giant thing in the cinematic.

Looks very good and pretty interesting.

If you haven't seen the Cinematic

http://www.guildwars.com/gallery/video/

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

they are reskins of the griffons and the Island guardians, but nice ones at that.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

It looks great to see this in hi-res. the environments are very nice, especially the towns, of course. But I don't know why you guys complain so much about the environments in factions; I found them A LOT more interesting than the stuff in tyria. The non-slum parts of kaineng look great, and the jade sea is the coolest environment ever in an RPG, imo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
Paragon non starter armour featured in 01:18-01:24. It was mentioned that paragon armour would include "wings". The shoulder wing plates and those on the boots and arm looks rather.....disappointing. Exposed belly...... i hope that was no indication of the 15k armours for Paragon.
That armor was a regular armor (fire resistant, if i'm not mistaken) in the PvP preview weekend, it's not 15K.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

I think it looks great... Emperor Kisu shown in the begining has obvious ties to Cantha, but how will they tie it into prophicies? I can't say anything about armor or weapons since it a bit to soon to oogle over those details. I love the cascading *lettering* in the curtains :P

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
I love the cascading *lettering* in the curtains :P
yea, it ranks up with the hovering towers and the birdfaced windmill as my favorite moments of that trailer. those are as nice as kaineng and the great northern wall (the jade sea still beats em easily, tho); someone should really give the anet art direction team a prize.

gene terrodon

gene terrodon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
... Emperor Kisu shown in the begining has obvious ties to Cantha, ...

If you look at where the emperor is...he's on the docks.
He probably is the point of contact to travel between Elonia and Cantha...nothing more.

Regarding the chaos wing dude not using his bow...
think about this...maybe he was a boss using a touch ranger build and all of the bosses in Elonia will use common/popular player builds instead of 3 or 4 skills and an elite.

One can only hope.

HalPlantagenet

HalPlantagenet

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

too far from Conwy

The Chained Swan

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One of things Arenanet art has been distinguished by it's sophisticated development of ambience. In addition, from Prophecies to Factions they took a huge step in refining their skill, no mean feat when you consider the relatively limited dynamic range of computer displays and the pragmatic need for players to see enough and the right things. I can't tell from the video, but I hope Nightfall takes another extraordinary step.

Stryker Wild

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Arcanic Lords of Ambivalence

A/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by gene terrodon
If you look at where the emperor is...he's on the docks.
He probably is the point of contact to travel between Elonia and Cantha...nothing more.

Regarding the chaos wing dude not using his bow...
think about this...maybe he was a boss using a touch ranger build and all of the bosses in Elonia will use common/popular player builds instead of 3 or 4 skills and an elite.

One can only hope.
Touch Rangers don't use bows.

However, it did look like when a bowed Ranger attempts to cast a spell, so you might be right about the fact that he's mix professions casting.

Silas Verdeii

Silas Verdeii

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Vancouver, Canada

Warrior Druids of Silvari

The one thing i remember really getting excited about with the factions cinematic was not the new professions, which at that point i wasn't all that thrilled about how they looked, but rather the new armors for the core professions and the new weapons. With this cinematic, there weren't really any new weapons that i could see(i know they probably didn't add them yet but that still means i haven't seen them) and only the dervish and paragon were shown, so that doesn't help me much with wanted to see new armor.

I know things will be released in due time, they always are, I guess i'm just going to have to wait to pass judgement until I get to see the things i want to see and then I'll evaluate.

Some of the scenery was pretty nice though, but i wouldn't expect anything less from Guildwars, even with my old outdated graphics card, things always look great.

gene terrodon

gene terrodon

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stryker Wild
Touch Rangers don't use bows...
Human touches don't use bows. Who knows what NPC would use?

Domino

Domino

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Houston

A/Rt

found a torrent for this, dunno if it works
http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/83...htfall_Trailer

chaoticmadness

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

killerzzzz

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sagaris
How hard I try to not love Guild Wars... it always fails. The trailer is beautifull... as always.

Though my only minor... uhm... drawback involves the Paragon. When he/she throws his spear, it just respawns in it's hand. Could've been done better imho.

Did you ever notice the ranger does almost exactly what the paragon does and i have come to the conclusion that rangers and paragons get an endless supply of ammo by their armor which is blessed by gods

Chief

Chief

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

The trailer looks very nice, but I have noticed over the past year that elements of other NCSoft games make an appearance in the Guild Wars chapters (and vice versa).
The winged elements of Aion’s characters are making an appearance in Nightfall.

The Ritualist looks very similar to the Shaman in City of Heroes (look at the definition of shamanism.)

The Forgotten Sage is in City of Villains as Snakes.

The Ice Golems look just like the City of Heroes Crystal Titans

I think mini-pets were started in Auto Assault before Factions was released.
This is just a sample, but I am sure there are more similarities that I have observed.

gene terrodon

gene terrodon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief
The trailer looks very nice, but I have noticed over the past year that elements of other NCSoft games make an appearance in the Guild Wars chapters (and vice versa).
The winged elements of Aion’s characters are making an appearance in Nightfall.

The Ritualist looks very similar to the Shaman in City of Heroes (look at the definition of shamanism.)

The Forgotten Sage is in City of Villains as Snakes.

The Ice Golems look just like the City of Heroes Crystal Titans

I think mini-pets were started in Auto Assault before Factions was released.
This is just a sample, but I am sure there are more similarities that I have observed.

And I bet you think EA, Blizzard, Activision, etc. etc. don't do the same.

DarkWasp

DarkWasp

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Paradise

Agency Of Forbidden Fruits [Oot]

R/A

I hope they use that song in the game somewere.

GW has been lacking intense battle music, I think the song in this video would add to the feeling durring an epic battle.

I'm really looking forward to this chapter.

One of the things that made Guild Wars great was doing the research. There wasn't too much information, and even the beta weekend attenders were in the dark. As time went on, the comunity learned more and more about the game, however, it was still full of surprises.

With factions, within a week, all had been explored (the game's new aspects and the map) and it started feeling more like a deathmatch than an adventure game.

I hope Nightfall brings the adventure back, and I can't think of a better chapter to do so.

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

Alot of ideas have already been done, its just that some get a new spin(game). The movie Underworld was a Romeo and Juliet story, just with a fewchanges.

Chief

Chief

Site Contributor

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by gene terrodon
And I bet you think EA, Blizzard, Activision, etc. etc. don't do the same.
I do not think those companies will condone copying, because they are independent of each other and have no affiliation. I am sure the corporate lawyers would sue for copyright infringement.

NCSoft is the parent company of ArenaNet, thus my point is that character similarities cross game platforms and both development divisions are continuing this practice with Nightfall.

gene terrodon

gene terrodon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief
I do not think those companies will condone copying, because they are independent of each other and have no affiliation. I am sure the corporate lawyers would sue for copyright infringement.

NCSoft is the parent company of ArenaNet, thus my point is that character similarities cross game platforms and both development divisions are continuing this practice with Nightfall.
I am not saying those companies copy content from competitors.

My point is that they rehash character models, backrounds, items etc. across their own games also.
It is a common practice in the gaming industry.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
I hope they use that song in the game somewere.

GW has been lacking intense battle music, I think the song in this video would add to the feeling durring an epic battle.
I think that is because they want people to buy the DirectSong packs, which is a ripoff(DRM monsters).

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

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Those are passing similarities. Just because one game has snakemen doesn't mean some other game copied them when they have them too. XCOM had snakemen. Particularly the Crystal Titans don't look similar at all except for being humanoid and made of ice/crystal.
I'm really loving the music in Nightfall. Seems it gets more upbeat in battle, unlike Prophecies and Factions.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkWasp
I hope they use that song in the game somewere.

GW has been lacking intense battle music, I think the song in this video would add to the feeling durring an epic battle.
I've seen an interview by soule that stated this was on purpose. He said the action in GW is intense already, which is better complemented by a more minimalist approach in music. If the game had turn-based battles, for example, like japanese RPGs, the music would have to be a lot more in-the-face to keep the feeling of tension, since combat itself is more deliberate. So, it's more likely that stronger, more melodic songs will appear as themes for the chapters, whereas the combat and exploration music will be more subtle, as in the other GWs. Besides, having a more obvious melodic line playing during battles can become tiresome after hundreds of hours of listening to the same dozen or so songs, and might make the player turn music off altogether, which would probably not be the interest of most composers.

As for copying creatures, I have serious doubts they would use the same model in different games (especially since totally different softhouses are developing each separately). Besides, none of that stuff came out of the heads of NCsoft, far from it; if anything, they came out of D&D monster manuals, and even those are based on earlier works of popular culture of traditional myths and folklore, which can be millenar in themselves.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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There are no new ideas, just new presentations of old ideas.

Hell, I'm just glad there are no Orcs or Elves. (knock on wood).

Picclo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Pennsylvania

The Commrade Hellfighters [TCH]

W/Mo

This game looks amazing....chaos wings, dervish, skales, WOOHOO

AuraofMana

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

Georgia, US

The music is most likely the main theme. The main theme is always the most exciting in my opinion.
If you think GW has good graphic, sorry to break your bubble here:
GW is just one of the millions of Korean MMOs. In Korea, GW is a very common MMO because they literally have millions of MMOs to pick from. GW is just successful over here because outside of Korea, Korean MMOs are not very common, and it is free.
Factions trailer looked amazing but the game end up turning up a major disappointment.
I really hope they don't further duplicate skills like having another Drunken Blow or Vampiric Bite (Just think of 3 Vampiric Bite skills on Touchers ><)
The music is pretty nice, but it's most likely the main theme. Factions main theme was pretty nice too.

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

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GW isn't a MMO. Korean MMOs are a dime a dozen, most of them not even requiring a purchase, and being nowhere near the quality of GW. Even people who absolutely hate GW will agree with me on this.
And GW has very good graphics, especially considering requirements.

There'll no doubt be more duplicate skills, but just like last time they will not include these in the total listed new skill count. So if they say 150 new skills, they mean 150 and then 5 duplicates for each of the Core professions.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief
The trailer looks very nice, but I have noticed over the past year that elements of other NCSoft games make an appearance in the Guild Wars chapters (and vice versa).
The winged elements of Aion’s characters are making an appearance in Nightfall.

The Ritualist looks very similar to the Shaman in City of Heroes (look at the definition of shamanism.)

The Forgotten Sage is in City of Villains as Snakes.

The Ice Golems look just like the City of Heroes Crystal Titans

I think mini-pets were started in Auto Assault before Factions was released.
This is just a sample, but I am sure there are more similarities that I have observed.
Aion wings are completely different besides the fact that they're both winged.

johan the destroyer

johan the destroyer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Spirits of Vengeance [TSoV]

W/Mo

Im thinking the emperor's appearance maybe shows the way they are linking the games so you can get your character from Factions to Nightfall. Just a quick thought there.

stevey

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Dec 2005

I love the way people complain about stuff from a short trailer that barely shows anything. People are funny.

Daena

Daena

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Grrr I cant seem to download the preview

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chief
The trailer looks very nice, but I have noticed over the past year that elements of other NCSoft games make an appearance in the Guild Wars chapters (and vice versa).
The winged elements of Aion’s characters are making an appearance in Nightfall.

The Ritualist looks very similar to the Shaman in City of Heroes (look at the definition of shamanism.)

The Forgotten Sage is in City of Villains as Snakes.

The Ice Golems look just like the City of Heroes Crystal Titans

I think mini-pets were started in Auto Assault before Factions was released.
This is just a sample, but I am sure there are more similarities that I have observed.
although i haven't played auto assault, i heard the skill systems were somewhat similar. the other day i read that auto assault has some form of collectible card game, and as we all know guild wars owes a lot to collectible card games.