Guildwars stressing people out?

Lordhelmos

Lordhelmos

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sentients of Shadow (noir)

Me/E

Whats up with the uptight community? I just had 3 groups freak out over the tiniest mistakes some newbies made in the party. The proceeded to rant, whine, ragequit.... Its like its illegal for new players to not know every single aspect of the game when they first pop the disc in. I haven't pugged in awhile and I figured I would take a break to jump into some random parties... but man people need to relax.

Seriously... for new players without a huge buddy list I would hate to be new to this game, people would start treating you like shit right off the bat. Anet needs to roll out the crimson knights because the welcoming party to this game needs some serious help.

Well99

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Nix Guild (NG)

N/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lordhelmos
Whats up with the uptight community? I just had 3 groups freak out over the tiniest mistakes some newbies made in the party. The proceeded to rant, whine, ragequit.... Its like its illegal for new players to not know every single aspect of the game when they first pop the disc in. I haven't pugged in awhile and I figured I would take a break to jump into some random parties... but man people need to relax.

Seriously... for new players without a huge buddy list I would hate to be new to this game, people would start treating you like shit right off the bat. Anet needs to roll out the crimson knights because the welcoming party to this game needs some serious help.
They have selective memory.They probably forgot all the mistakes they made when starting out.

Azrael1309

Azrael1309

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

ABQ, NM

LF Guild

Personally, its not so much that someone doesn't know somethings, its when they refuse to listen and ultimately end up wasting everyone's time by causing a failed mission/quest.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

It's not really Guild Wars to blame...
Many pissed off people come to play this game to relieve stress, do not take it personal if they curse you out.

Lawnmower

Lawnmower

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/R

there are many assholes in this game, but there are also many good people.

the only way to find the good people is to talk to everyone and then one by one find out who is a jerk and who is not. add everyone to your friends list who is not a jerk.

And remember to be nice to newbies yourself.

sky the unstopable

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

radicals agianst tyrants

R/Mo

i was lucky enough to buy this game at the same time as one of my best friends, but i would also hate the idea of trying to become proficient with people yelling at you and insulting you and classial profiling (im looking at you wammo haters).

but im sure guildwars dose stress some people out. my friend gets pissy really easy when were on guildwars.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

If ppl truely get stressed by a game then its time for them to quit, personally i just hit the "x" on the top right hand corner..

Kern Wolf

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

NJ

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by lacasner
It's not really Guild Wars to blame...
Many pissed off people come to play this game to relieve stress, do not take it personal if they curse you out.
That's a load of crap.
It means that some people forget this is a GAME; no reason to frak out on anybody for any reason. I don't think these people would get that out of control if they were face-to-face with the people they're cussing out. Unfortunately, the Internet provides anonymity, and this crap happens...

dare49devil

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Danbury, Connecticut

W/Mo

Find the good ones.

LumpOfCole

LumpOfCole

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Orlando, FL

Rt/

Guild Wars is a LOT less stressful than other MMOs I've played (except, of course, when missing Masters by 6 seconds on Nahpui once )

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Yeah things about my guild and not have to much Gs.

White Head Yeti

White Head Yeti

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

That u said might be because of 2 factors:

1.Teenage Spirit of the game (young population - so even some older people act like teenager here..)

2.Because u play game too much so it starts beeing stressful at some point,where i recommand either getting a life either slowing down and getting away from people who are offencive

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

you should try playing Halo on Xbox live...

Hephaestus Ram

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

W/E

I kicked my wife from a group a while back... I have no defence.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

LOL, kicking your wife from a group is just plain nasty. I'm sure you found out after that that was a bad move?

I enjoy hearing stories of when GW first came out, and all the really weird/cool builds were used... back when you could die to firestorm. Most people have some horror story of a build they've run to tell.. simple things like equipping a weapon they're not specced in, landing in a mission with skills missing... sometimes, you just have to ask the annoyingly impatient/always correct person if they remember when they first started to play

Personally, my monk thought divine boon was an AWSOME skill on a healer bar.. and had no understanding of energy managment or where to run if getting attacked

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

It isn't Guild Wars...its online gaming in general. You always have the Elitists and you should never waste their time.

And I can understand the uptightness to a degree... Being a big lover of PvE myself (something my guild had to accept seeings as we mainly PvP and we are in a PvP oriented alliance - They allow for my PvE time though) I have dealt with some idiots...

So to that decree I will answer the topic title question...Yes this game can stress you straight out...Like alot of Online games..It seems the scum of the earth comes out to annoy you when playing these games..and afterwhile you just get fed up with it and deny sympathy to ANYONE because you know 9 times outta 10 that "new player" is probably just a Noob covering up, a Jerk, or a Begger...

Mera Regila

Mera Regila

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

In The Deep

R/A

Hmm... Maybe Guild Wars IS stressing people out, that would explain everyone talking about inappropriate things in alliance chat and guild chat and, well, EVERYWHERE. Maybe they're using this to RELIEVE stress created by the game they are playing?

I've had to quit many many guilds and alliances because many of the people in some were complete jerks. No other way to describe them. P.S. for some funny noob encounters, go to the Riverside Inn and check out the thread Biggest Jerk You've Ever Encountered On GW. I found it pretty funny, and posted some encounters myself.

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

i can get a little stressed out in a pug. mostly because i can't believe my time is being wasted by some guy who hasn't bothered to learn the most basic concepts of the game.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
LOL, kicking your wife from a group is just plain nasty. I'm sure you found out after that that was a bad move?

I enjoy hearing stories of when GW first came out, and all the really weird/cool builds were used... back when you could die to firestorm. Most people have some horror story of a build they've run to tell.. simple things like equipping a weapon they're not specced in, landing in a mission with skills missing... sometimes, you just have to ask the annoyingly impatient/always correct person if they remember when they first started to play

Personally, my monk thought divine boon was an AWSOME skill on a healer bar.. and had no understanding of energy managment or where to run if getting attacked
And me raging at you through the whole desert until you finally decided running out of energy 10 seconds into battle wasn't good.

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

The game is infested with 12 year olds with no attention span and no ability to communicate.

All they can do is call people noobs and swear, actually making suggestions is beyond their capabilities.

I play with henchies only for the same reason, I can't be bothered with crap like that.

Angel Netherborn

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

Yea, every online game has their share of jerks, whiners, and noob callers. It has nothing to with age. It's just that in an anonymous environment like an online game, these people feel that they have no obligation to show courtesy and maintain politeness. Something in their life must be giving them repressed feelings and in the game, there's nothing really preventing them from lashing out. Or some people are just born or raised as jerks.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

GW doesn't piss me off, it's the friggen community, too many anals there...

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

I'm playing (well more like chatting & trading nowadays) in four different MMO's and the community isn't much different in any of them.

I remember when I tryied one fantasy based MMO, I made a healer type priest. Well, I noticed that priests were rare class and every adventuring group was always looking for one. Me, newbie priest then joined one group to secure some ancient tower. I said to the group that I was new in game and learned that they were also.

Things went normally, not much of a talk between the group though. Then I got an invitation from the leader of the group to join his guild. Well, I was like "oh well first day in this game, might be good to hook up with some helpful players". Oh boy did I make a wrong decision there. ^_^

I didn't manage to keep our party alive at one point and got flamed so badly by the whole group and the leader kicked me from the guild instantly.

From that moment, I've built my own little ward against jerks/impolite people.

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

I would have to agree...there is *something* that is stressing out alot of people in GW. the game that is. no answer to what it is though.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by samifly
I would have to agree...there is *something* that is stressing out alot of people in GW. the game that is. no answer to what it is though.
Well, I have that answer! The answer is as follows:

Error Code=007
Error Code=013
Error Code=040


enough said! I play Guild Wars every evening after work to unwind but last night took the piss. I got Error 40 followed by more error 13s than you can shake a stick at! I got....urm....very cross and Anet got some very nasty emails!!

As for the people playing the game, I find the Tyrian continent a lot worse than the Canthan continent... It's the whole thing about bonus missions over there...that's when people seem to get too "anal"...seems to be for the following reasons:

1. Not everyone in the group is aware that some members want to do the bonus, so at the point where the group would go off to do the bonus people tend to split up and argue.
2. If a broup is gearing up for "bonus only" they NEVER tell new group members, who think the group is for the mission as well.
3. Tyrian "mission and bonus" groups are really picky. I was in Dunes of Dispair last night and tried the mission about 5 times, left for a while to do Thrsty River, and came back. There was a Ranger in a group of 5 looking for a monk with Necrotic Traversal (I'm an N/Mo - with necrotic traversal). I assumed he wouldn't take me since I am a Necro and he wanted a monk. about 20 mins passed as the team I got into tried to scrape together two monks...The Ranger was still spamming that he wasted a monk with necrotic traversal. So I whispered to him to ask if he would take me but I got no response. About another 10 minutes went past and just as our team was about to head into the mission he put up a message, generally saying that he would take anyone with necrotic traversal. I just thought "bad luck mate"...when we failed the mission he was still there....but I decided to Hench the mission since I was sick of human groups and not too bothered about the bonus and completed it not a problem.

(sorry, that was a bit long....where was I...)

4. The Tyrian mission groups also seem to get very cross if you do not have the skills they expect you to bring - who do they think they are to dictate my skill bar to me?

The Canthan groups can be the same when they are going spefically to get Masters. However, unlike the Tyrian mission towns, there always seems to be people in the Canthan ones who just want to do the mission, in the Tyrian mission towns, everyone is "bonus only" - I guess it's because everyone has done it so many times before.

Hephaestus Ram

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
LOL, kicking your wife from a group is just plain nasty. I'm sure you found out after that that was a bad move?

I enjoy hearing stories of when GW first came out, and all the really weird/cool builds were used... back when you could die to firestorm. Most people have some horror story of a build they've run to tell.. simple things like equipping a weapon they're not specced in, landing in a mission with skills missing... sometimes, you just have to ask the annoyingly impatient/always correct person if they remember when they first started to play

Personally, my monk thought divine boon was an AWSOME skill on a healer bar.. and had no understanding of energy managment or where to run if getting attacked
Yeah, she's not going to let me forget that for a long time.
Since I formed the group I felt obliged to get the mission done successfully. She was
a ranger and insisted on doing the pulling, but kept using a shortbow because she
liked it's stats. Unfortunately she kept getting snared by Ice Prison and then mobbed
by warriors, of course, I couldn't resist going to help her and we all wound up dead.
She thought it was funny, but the rest of the group wasn't very amused.
Fooling around when we're by ourselves or with henches is ok. But I didn't think it
right to subject other people that wanted to get on their way to our antics. So when
we got back to town I decided to just boot her, grab someone else, and finish the
mission. I guess I'm not the brightest crayon in the box.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho
The game is infested with 12 year olds with no attention span and no ability to communicate.
Ive been online gaming for over 15 years every single game is exactly the same!.. Guildwars is no exception... and actually, the younger gamers are usually the least stressed of all of them.

Quote:
Originally Posted by majoho
I play with henchies only for the same reason, I can't be bothered with crap like that.
then whats the point in playing an online game?.. if everyone took this attitude there would be no guilds or alliances what so ever.

Of course you get nobs in pugs, but generally speaking they are few and far between.. I've recruited nearly everyone in my 70 strong guild from pugging over the past 15 months, if I only ever took henchies, I would never meet people let alone form a good guild.

And if you think PvE is bad.. PvP is even worse! however in pvp people come to expect and accept it because its the only way of disciplining someone.

Ado

Ado

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Den Haag

[cute]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
And if you think PvE is bad.. PvP is even worse! however in pvp people come to expect and accept it because its the only way of disciplining someone.
QFT, especially when playing monk. Either you get praised for keeping your party alive or you get flamed if someone dies.

In higher ranked groups the level of intolerancy rises to such a level sometimes, that after making a single mistake a flamefest begins that makes your ears wanna fall off.

CorstedPirate

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Knights of the Void

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram
Yeah, she's not going to let me forget that for a long time.
Since I formed the group I felt obliged to get the mission done successfully. She was
a ranger and insisted on doing the pulling, but kept using a shortbow because she
liked it's stats. Unfortunately she kept getting snared by Ice Prison and then mobbed
by warriors, of course, I couldn't resist going to help her and we all wound up dead.
She thought it was funny, but the rest of the group wasn't very amused.
Fooling around when we're by ourselves or with henches is ok. But I didn't think it
right to subject other people that wanted to get on their way to our antics. So when
we got back to town I decided to just boot her, grab someone else, and finish the
mission. I guess I'm not the brightest crayon in the box.
She blew a gasket eh? I must admitt there have been times in which I have been helping my boyfriend with a mission and wished he'd just go afk or something so that I could just finish it real quick. Of course I'd never be so bold as to kick him after he caused a mission failure. LMAO!!!

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
Ive been online gaming for over 15 years every single game is exactly the same!.. Guildwars is no exception... and actually, the younger gamers are usually the least stressed of all of them.
And I didn't say they were stressed just lacking in social skills and patience.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
then whats the point in playing an online game?.. if everyone took this attitude there would be no guilds or alliances what so ever.
I agree with your point, and I'm not suggesting anyone else does it as well - this was only a statement aboy ME.
Personally I have a low threshold for taking stupid crap (that's a flaw as well), so I'd rather just play with henchies whenever I can. But back when I started playing GW I was in a real nice mature guild, I then left GW for almost a year and since I came back I haven't really felt the need for finding a new one.

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
As for the people playing the game, I find the Tyrian continent a lot worse than the Canthan continent... It's the whole thing about bonus missions over there...that's when people seem to get too "anal"...seems to be for the following reasons:

....
I actually found the exact opposite. People on Cantha are so anal about the whole timed mission thing and the "gogogo! hurry noobs!" and those poor fools that either are having a convultion or just a nervous finger and pinging the map 1,000 times within the span of 5 seconds is just annoying beyond belief. When they start doing that, any guildie I'm with and I start pinging the map just as fast in other areas... just to annoy them as much as they are annoying us. Then, since you can't bypass the more annoying missions you are effectively stuck there till you get lucky with a good group of non-idiots; till then, the players there are getting stressed and sick of doing the mission over and over again.
I found in Tyria though, getting the fire isle missions with bonus done was nearly imposible with PuGs anymore. Fools would run off without a word to unlock a section of the map and drop, get the bonus and drop, grab the cap and drop; even after joining the group and telling them the group was there for mission and bonus. But in Tyria, the people are much more laid back from what I have seen. Since you've found opposite, chances are, they are equally mixed on both chapters.

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

I'm tired of running the same Canta road over and over again. I don't call them quests, but errants. It is no fun at all, because the rewards are not even worth it. Stressing indeed. Every time when I see a new npc with a quest, I sigh.
I wonder how many quests one can get in Kaineng alone.

Fist_of_God

Fist_of_God

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/W

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hephaestus Ram
I kicked my wife from a group a while back... I have no defence.
lol..Now that takes some ballz! Kudos

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
I'm tired of running the same Canta road over and over again. I don't call them quests, but errants. It is no fun at all, because the rewards are not even worth it. Stressing indeed. Every time when I see a new npc with a quest, I sigh.
I wonder how many quests one can get in Kaineng alone.
Why do people take 1 quest at a time?

Silent Kitty

Silent Kitty

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Netherlands

[TYW] "The Young World"

A/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Why do people take 1 quest at a time?
Smart people don't. These quests are so close together, that you can almost do them all at once. Do you find that challenging, amusing, exiting, or inspiring to do more quests?

penguo

penguo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Abaddons Bane

N/

[QUOTE=majoho]And I didn't say they were stressed just lacking in social skills and patience.



I like how you generalize all 12-13 year olds. I'm bearly 13, but never swear or anything. I've had people think im 30+, because I'm responsible and a very good player.so please dont say that it's loaded with little kids who ruin everything.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Silent Kitty
Smart people don't. These quests are so close together, that you can almost do them all at once. Do you find that challenging, amusing, exiting, or inspiring to do more quests?
No but I don't see it as stressful either. Stressful is having a quest where you have 20 cantha style bosses pile on top of you and spam fireball.

Addone_Abaddon

Addone_Abaddon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Jersey, Channel Islands

Perfection Is Everything [PiE]

W/

The reason younger ones, speaking for myself, are more stressed OCCASIONALLY is because of our age, think about it, we have, not as important things to worry about, but fairly stressful things to worry about considering our age, such as school, puberty, friends and so on..

even though it sounds pathetic, it isn't if you actually are going through that.

samifly

samifly

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Girl Power [GP]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Celestial Beaver
The Canthan groups can be the same when they are going spefically to get Masters. However, unlike the Tyrian mission towns, there always seems to be people in the Canthan ones who just want to do the mission, in the Tyrian mission towns, everyone is "bonus only" - I guess it's because everyone has done it so many times before.
Well, getting masters implys completing the mission, which is probably why you find more people wanting to do them, then in Tyria.

quiarrah

quiarrah

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fist_of_God
lol..Now that takes some ballz! Kudos
LOL. . .My husband has kicked me form EQ MANY TIMES. . . we go play our separate ways. I would rather be in the same room with him doing my own thing than be in the same group withhim and have him yell at me for some stupid game! LOL. . .