What the heck man with MMs

wankey

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Okay, pressing alt will display all enemies INCLUDING ENEMY MINIONS.

However, pressing alt will not display bonded minions of my own.

WHAT THE HECK MAN.

Where in the good gameplay manual does it say "fill the screen with useless minions but not give any minion master direct control?"

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

This would be better in Q&A forum or Necro forum.

White Head Yeti

White Head Yeti

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Try pressing ctrl for own minions

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by White Head Yeti
Try pressing ctrl for own minions
Neither Alt nor Ctrl will show your own minions

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

The complaint is legit.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by wankey
Okay, pressing alt will display all enemies INCLUDING ENEMY MINIONS.

However, pressing alt will not display bonded minions of my own.

WHAT THE HECK MAN.
What the heck indeed. If I hit alt and saw my enemies and allies be spammed on the screen, I'd be what the hecking too.

Angel Netherborn

Angel Netherborn

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Lower Ward, Sigil

Goda Vos

Yep, legit complaint. That's why playing a bomber build requires very quick eyes and fingers... which is why I suck i suppose... :P

majoho

majoho

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

"What The Heck Man"

pflap

pflap

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sidney, BC, Canada

Divine Order of Hero's

R/Mo

ya, this is a problem for the MM, that's one reason I switched to SS. They die too fast as well....

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

I do both SS and MM, but MM gets annoying--I hate constantly healing them

SS is just more fun.

Tark Alkerk

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

less

E/

molly-codling minions does get on my nerves quite a bit.
haven't caped SS yet tho.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shadowfox1125
I do both SS and MM, but MM gets annoying--I hate constantly healing them

SS is just more fun.
I agree, after a while, it just becomes too tedious to MM. It's simply more fun to SS or condition-spam, etc. Though in certain areas, nothing can compare to the devastation minions can cause

EDIT: Oh yeah and "What the heck man" indeed! LMAO Just too funny!

NoChance

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

well, at least if you play a bomber you get to work on your hand-eye coordination a lot! I don't know how many times I've put death nova on myself by accident after missing the minion!

Manic Smile

Manic Smile

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Hawaii

----- 15^50[Rare] ---- Alliance: ----- [SMS] -----

yep tedious...I love the MM concept but they need to rebalance it without degen...more like the MM in City of Villians.

Of give us back some form of useful degen counter.

I'd suggested earler the make each minnion weaker but give us better control over them with command skills.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
I agree, after a while, it just becomes too tedious to MM. It's simply more fun to SS or condition-spam, etc. Though in certain areas, nothing can compare to the devastation minions can cause
The only problem is that the demand for MMs is simply greater than the demand for SS. I've had missions where I enter as a SS, but am told to change to MM or get kicked off the team.

**sigh**

raven214

raven214

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by wankey
Okay, pressing alt will display all enemies INCLUDING ENEMY MINIONS.

However, pressing alt will not display bonded minions of my own.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vinegrower
Neither Alt nor Ctrl will show your own minions
Just for clarification, Alt displays all allies except for ally minions, because they're allies (apparently that's Anet's logic on this one... ). Ctrl displays all enemies including enemy minions.

Michel Longshorts

Michel Longshorts

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
What the heck indeed. If I hit alt and saw my enemies and allies be spammed on the screen, I'd be what the hecking too.
Yes... I belive he means ctrl.
Unless you have a very strange interface...

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

A typo on his part almost buried this otherwise great complaint.

It is MUCH easier to hold Ctrl and select allies than try to "hunt" for their name and click it that way.

So If minions arent showing in it...its valid to want them too.

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

I honestly think that after the MM nerf (even though MM are still some of the strongest char in the game ), the least A-net could do is give MM a separate little window like the party window to be able to track their minions. Maybe then there could be a more legitamate Minion Bomber build.

xiaotsu

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Feb 2006

Doomlore Shrine

Just Us Gamers [JUGs]

R/

Alt shows allies by default, not enemies No wonder you were "what the heck"ing.

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

I think they should add minions to the party window under the allies tab, similar to when you've got to escort some lazy bum NPC.

Mr_eX

Mr_eX

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Ice Tooth Cave

Opt and Niho Private Chat [lulz]

N/Me

You should be able to see your minions when you hold alt. No debate is necessary.

MelechRic

MelechRic

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

RA

[ODIN]

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by sykoone
I think they should add minions to the party window under the allies tab, similar to when you've got to escort some lazy bum NPC.
Well, I'm not sure I'd want that since it would make the allies window huge when you're in AB and have multiple MM's. Maybe if it was only the minions on my 4-man team. That'd be fine.

The other annoyance I have w/ MM is that when you use Blood of the Master it works on all allied minions. Sometimes it's hard to know how many you'll be healing if you wander into another MM's vicinity. Just the other day I did BotM for my 10 minions (which typically hits me for around 112 dmg) and got nailed for a lot more because I actually healed the other MM's minions too. I was probably somewhate below 50% hp (which is normally safe and typically followed with a Heal Area), but since there was around 18 or so allied minions I sac'd myself to death unwittingly. Needless to say, my team was not amused.

EDIT: Not really complaining. I was dumb and didn't have a good situational awareness of the battle. It's just so annoying.