A few days ago Reikai and I were talking about grawl bombing. We both noticed that its significantly more difficult that it used to be because of:
1. The stance bow no longer reduces damage from wands
2. EoE's range has been nerfed so that it either requires very close placement to the hill or on the hill where you confront the grawl
3. Oath shot has a longer recharge time
For a long time now I really haven't done much grawl bombing (since the release of factions) because I wasn't too concerned about skill points. Now with the release of Nightfall nearing, I decided to take up grawl bombing again. After a day of practice, I was able to do it more than half the time but it was still noticably more difficult that before and also required a bit of luck. Screw the luck if pekpek ever spawned though.
Anyway, I noticed in someones post in another thread that they farm grawl using a glyph of energy, serpents quickness, sliver armor, and armor of earth build with oath shot. I thought to myself, why not turn this into a grawl bombing build? So here it is. And thanks to Lagunacid for the idea of farming grawl with sliver armor. Implementing it into the EoE bomb has worked wonders. Not only is it MUCH easier to stay alive, but killing grawl seems to go even faster than before. I recommend the high quality video if you've got the bandwidth for it.
The new and improved grawl bombing (high quality - 32 megs version):
http://files.filefront.com/QueefPwnG.../fileinfo.html
Lower quality version (about 12.8 megs):
http://files.filefront.com/QueefPwnG.../fileinfo.html
The old method (still works if you want to try it):
http://files.filefront.com/Queef_Pwn.../fileinfo.html
For those of you new to grawl bombing, the location is just outside port sledge in Witman's Folly.
Warning: Try to stay away from the crones, especially if they spawn on the hill as they will use chillblaines on your armor of earth and sliver armor.
EDIT: You are right. Not sure what happened as I copied and pasted the same thread from gwonline. Anyway, I think I've fixed the links. Try it again and let me know if it works now.
Grawl Bombing: The Next Generation [Video]
winkgood
RebelHero
links dont work...
Renegade26
Cool I'm not the only one.
winkgood
Try it again. I've fixed the links.
Huntmaster
Youtube or Googlevideo it.
winkgood
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...37103315&hl=en
The googlevideo doesn't do it justice, though. I still suggest downloading the high res one.
The googlevideo doesn't do it justice, though. I still suggest downloading the high res one.
Former Ruling
Youtube and Google dont give any Guild Wars picture justice. :\
Anyway, yea, It works...But like you said, They fixed the EoE range glitch (it no longer "jumps" out of range to kill the caster grawls), and being able to survive there depends ALOT on what boss spawns.
Anyway, yea, It works...But like you said, They fixed the EoE range glitch (it no longer "jumps" out of range to kill the caster grawls), and being able to survive there depends ALOT on what boss spawns.
winkgood
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Originally Posted by Former Ruling
Youtube and Google dont give any Guild Wars picture justice. :\
Anyway, yea, It works...But like you said, They fixed the EoE range glitch (it no longer "jumps" out of range to kill the caster grawls), and being able to survive there depends ALOT on what boss spawns. Hence the need for a new build. My R/E build can survive any boss with just about any spawn. Wupwup (monk boss) still gives the most problem with healing seed, but its a lot easier to tank it out with this build than the old R/N build. In the past, pekpek (ele boss) gave a lot of problems. I find pekpek to be pretty easy now that I started using this build.
Anyway, yea, It works...But like you said, They fixed the EoE range glitch (it no longer "jumps" out of range to kill the caster grawls), and being able to survive there depends ALOT on what boss spawns. Hence the need for a new build. My R/E build can survive any boss with just about any spawn. Wupwup (monk boss) still gives the most problem with healing seed, but its a lot easier to tank it out with this build than the old R/N build. In the past, pekpek (ele boss) gave a lot of problems. I find pekpek to be pretty easy now that I started using this build.
ume kurosaki
Thanks, I've been thinking about doing Grawl Bombing soon, will check it out in a few.
ume kurosaki
Could you post your build?
Nestaron
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Originally Posted by ume kurosaki
Could you post your build?
Oathshot {E}
Armour of Earth
Whirling Defense
Troll Unguent
Silver Armor
Lightning Reflexes
Dodge
Edge of Extinction
BM 11+1+3
Expertise 10+3
WS 6
Earth 8
Armour of Earth
Whirling Defense
Troll Unguent
Silver Armor
Lightning Reflexes
Dodge
Edge of Extinction
BM 11+1+3
Expertise 10+3
WS 6
Earth 8
remmeh
cool build =) i'll be sure to try it later today.
Huntmaster
Rofl_Pwnt
I love this build, Armor > Blind. I know its slower then the R/N but its so much easier to under stand, Btw, <3 the music in the video >_>
SnipiousMax
^So how much does the nerf affect this run?
ubermancer
Nice one, I had almost forgotten about that... Ill have to try it.
Im sure a variant could work on a E/R, but I think you had the right idea there.
Im sure a variant could work on a E/R, but I think you had the right idea there.
XvArchonvX
After today's update I believe Grawl Bombing is officially dead. 
Rofl_Pwnt
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I pwnd U
so the EoE nerf did have a downside. That looks like fun but now it wont work unless you lay a trap first and have the warriors run at you and take damage while you hit the casters. Then maybe it would get them below the required health for them to take damage.
Legendary Shiz
So much for this.
At least we'll always have our videos.
At least we'll always have our videos.
Legendary Shiz
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Nice one, I had almost forgotten about that... Ill have to try it.
Im sure a variant could work on a E/R, but I think you had the right idea there. It's possible, but the armor is worse and you won't have expertise at your diposal. Also you won't be able to use the runes.
Im sure a variant could work on a E/R, but I think you had the right idea there. It's possible, but the armor is worse and you won't have expertise at your diposal. Also you won't be able to use the runes.
XvArchonvX
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Originally Posted by Rofl_Pwnt
oh i hate you anet...i hate you...you ruin all the fun, do you do this because you like to laugh at us?! WHY? OMFG! BURN IN HELL F U ANET! ARGHH
Yeah, I feel your pain. As I said in another EoE thread, I think A-net could have nerfed this in a way that it didn't make the skill useless to all and come at the price of those who use it in PvE but alas, EoE is officially pwned. *lays a flower on it's grave and sheds a single tear*
Jack Valmont
I don't think it's dead. I'm sure there has to be a way around it.
Lambentviper
im hopeing its just for this weekend like what happened to Divine Boon for one of the other previews
Shadow-Hunter
Its not.. They said on the Site that divine boon was temp changed during the nightfall weekend.. But this is just a Nerf.. And i dont think there is a way around it.. the now "old" EoE grawl bomber dident harm the Necro Grawls at all.. Now you need to run around and hurt em all to make em go down ... Witch imo seems to make a Char like a VwK Rit or 55 SoJ monk better to kill the grawls..
~Shadow
~Shadow
Rofl_Pwnt
*plays anet*
Me: Oh Look, Theres are defense-less EoE on the floor... *takes out nerf bat and beats EoE to death*
Me: Oh Look, Theres are defense-less EoE on the floor... *takes out nerf bat and beats EoE to death*
Shadow-Hunter
Btw, what music is it in the Video?
~Shadow
~Shadow
winkgood
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Originally Posted by Shadow-Hunter
Btw, what music is it in the Video?
~Shadow
Dragon Force - Through the Fire and Flames
~Shadow
Dragon Force - Through the Fire and Flames
Darkstar The Legend
There might be a work around using SoJ combined with brambles, but due to work i haven't been able to test this (still need to cap SoJ on my ranger).
Can someone else test this please, does SoJ trigger even when the attack is blocked or just when they hit you? If so then everytime the grawl attack they get knocked down and start bleeding (more than enough to get them below 90%), only problem i see with this is that there is no mark of pain to speed it up, and can't use oath shot to recharge WD. but its an idea.
Can someone else test this please, does SoJ trigger even when the attack is blocked or just when they hit you? If so then everytime the grawl attack they get knocked down and start bleeding (more than enough to get them below 90%), only problem i see with this is that there is no mark of pain to speed it up, and can't use oath shot to recharge WD. but its an idea.
odly
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Originally Posted by Darkstar The Legend
There might be a work around using SoJ combined with brambles, but due to work i haven't been able to test this (still need to cap SoJ on my ranger).
Can someone else test this please, does SoJ trigger even when the attack is blocked or just when they hit you? If so then everytime the grawl attack they get knocked down and start bleeding (more than enough to get them below 90%), only problem i see with this is that there is no mark of pain to speed it up, and can't use oath shot to recharge WD. but its an idea. You'll start thinking of the 55HP ranger now i bet.
Can someone else test this please, does SoJ trigger even when the attack is blocked or just when they hit you? If so then everytime the grawl attack they get knocked down and start bleeding (more than enough to get them below 90%), only problem i see with this is that there is no mark of pain to speed it up, and can't use oath shot to recharge WD. but its an idea. You'll start thinking of the 55HP ranger now i bet.
Darkstar The Legend
NO!!! i would never consider doing a 55 ranger. i was just trying to think of a way to inflict damage on the crones at the same time as the warriors. SoJ just seemed like the best solution when combined with brambles.
Shadow-Hunter
well if your going into SoJ im pretty sure a 55 Monk with EoE is better =x.. And SoJ Triggers when the attack Hits you, if you block the attack the enemys wont get dmged or KDed..
And Ty winkgood
~Shadow
And Ty winkgood
~Shadow
ubermancer
Nevermind me.
winkgood
Whoa, haven't seen you around forever Ubermancer. What happened to you in gwonline? You made some good builds.