Too many events

Former Ruling

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by ForgeBitch
I'd like to see an event that applied to 'me'. I don't have factions and I don't like PvP. And so far I haven't seen anything that makes things better for me. If these were incentives to help encourage me to buy nightfall, they are falling short. As well when I ramp up to do a run or mission or quest or something only to find out that the servers are down all night because of all the increased activity, doesn't impress me either. But as usual I'm a minority...
You have to look at it like this...Cantha is their "current world". Your demographic is small to them..Tyria only players that only PvE. They originally advertised "Independent chapters you wouldn't have to buy if you didn't want too" but that is misleading, as they really only push the latest chapter so you are missing alot of additional content by not updating.

Anyway, at this point they probably have to assume if you are a Chapter 1 Stalward and don't PvP you didn't have much incentive or desire to buy Nightfall in the first place. There will always be people that remain in one world, especially since Tyria has proven itself to be much better than the other world shown.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

Pretty obvious they support their most recent chapter,don't say you expected anything else because it's exactley what YOU would do if you ran the game. Tyria has Sorrows furnace and acces to UW, the fissure,the battle isles and the hall of heroes.Also it has Assassins and Ritualists going trough it for secondary skills. Chapter done.Time to move on. GG

frickett

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

Keep the weekend events coming. I love them.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

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Las Vegas

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Well i disagree that they should have less events in the sense of how it affects areas, but i do however agree that the events have been less then spectacular. Having these continuosly poor events just degrades the really good ones, like the dragon festival, IMO. The double drops in the elite missions was crapola, we got double drops alright, double junk, tons of white weapons and salvage items that most people are already overstocked with. I'd really like to see them put some thought into expansion type events then labor over the next "double coupon" event that only lowers the economy. Remember sorrows furnace? Talk about congestion and a really awesome event!! Even beefing up rotwing to drop the bow was beter thought out then this kind of stuff. There's lots of suggestions floating around the forums on things they can do to improve gameplay and interest in the game, and not much, if any, has been brought to light. Yet we continue to have events like this PVP thing. Frankly no one does either jade or aspenwood cuz they just aren't any fun, not because they aren't getting publicity. On an average day, you'd be lucky to find a full party in either place.

I was really hoping that they'd add new bosses and challenges with these new skin drops, now it just looks as though they are promoting chest farmers. Anyway, i'm still going to do FOW and UW this weekend just for the newly added skins that drop, but I highly doubt I'll be running around cantha chest farming or be caught anywhere near aspenwood or jade

Dzar Lor

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

California

SBD

IMO the weekend events are cool. It does break up the continuous going back and forth....doing the same missions and quests over and over. I say keep them coming!!!

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
Frankly no one does either jade or aspenwood cuz they just aren't any fun, not because they aren't getting publicity. On an average day, you'd be lucky to find a full party in either place.
You should probably do them before claiming to know what you're talking about. There's ALWAYS a game going in Aspenwood.

Doomlord_Slayermann

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Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

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This entire idea is just illogical. Why complain about something fun that ArenaNet is doing? It's not like you have to participate. Hell, it's not like you HAVE to play Guild Wars, and it's certainly not like you have to post rants like this.

majoho

majoho

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Join Date: Jul 2006

Denmark

Because it's a conspiracy and ANET are inherently evil and out to get us

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

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Las Vegas

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Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by GUE Tech
I really wasn't trying to be cynical. I truly believe they are trying to keep this ship from sinking till the next chapter. They have to do something to keep people buying factions, and keep people playing till Nightfall comes out.

Am I so far off, that this isn't what they are trying to do?
Not totally off, no, not according to the numbers. Factions and Prophs are still selling. Still, just looking through the forums, a rather large majority of PVE players just aren't happy with Factions, but they bought it. So i don't think Anets trying to keep the ship from sinking just yet, but they are putting very little into these events. If they took the combined resources of the 2 months they used for these events, they might have been able to develop one event that would carry factions right into nightfall. Sorrows was a perfect example of that kind of thing. Unfortunatly factions is so quick to complete, people are just not as thrilled with the hours of gameplay they had in chapter 1 and a-net doesn't have that gap of time to develop some end-game expansion, so we have these rather cheap little events to carry interest and i really feel it falls short.

Alot of the mentality behind many of these events is to get PVP and PVE players to "live" in each others world for a minute. Pver's can have something to accomplish through PVP and vice versa. To bad, as we've all seen before, getting one type to do something different and new is like pulling teeth, minus the tooth fairy.

Curse You

Curse You

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Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
A) Even if the OP has a point, he's approaching it the wrong way. "Stop the Events" is the thread title. It begs to be misunderstood.

B) It's extremely ungrateful for the amount of attention we DO get from Anet.

c) Someone close and delete this thread...Please.
Would you care to tell me a way in which I could change the title, because last time I checked, it won't let me.

Anyhow,
I really wish people would think a little more before posting. They are jumping to conclusions (almost all false) and getting worked up about nothing.
I have clearly stated, at least twice already, that I don't want the events gone, I want them reduced. Constant events may seem good to some of you, but other people want to just have a plain weekend.

One of the biggest issues I have is that, if I try to ignore the event, it's not made very easy. Large masses of people will flood into areas for the event, and completely ignore normal areas. I might have wanted to do Thunderhead Keep or Raisu Palace this weekend, but I can't because most people are doing the event, and many of the people left aren't good enough.

I first thought of the events as "special", but now they are becoming normal and annoying. Dispite the fact that I like the game, and I hardly get bored, I can see that this is turning into an attempt to please the players, to keep them playing.

I'm not against fun, or having them do something I like, but wouldn't you get suspicious if you parents suddenly started giving you presents all the time, for no reason?

EternalTempest

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United States

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To me these are not "events" in the sense I know events (halloween, winterfest) but more like "special rules" weekends to be honest.

And so far I love them. Some did not intrest me, I just ignore them. I messed the Nightfall PvP preview.. but it didn't bother me, I will be doing the Nightfall PvE preview.

To OP - I disagree with you
To Anet - Keep them coming there fun

milias

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
One of the biggest issues I have is that, if I try to ignore the event, it's not made very easy. Large masses of people will flood into areas for the event, and completely ignore normal areas. I might have wanted to do Thunderhead Keep or Raisu Palace this weekend, but I can't because most people are doing the event, and many of the people left aren't good enough.
This is kind of interesting, because this is exactly what people at those events have been complaining about, that people there didn't know what they were doing. So if the "good" people aren't at the events, and neither are they at the normal areas, where are they?

Besides, henchies are always there, and they do listen.

gabrial heart

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Wilds Pathfinder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
You should probably do them before claiming to know what you're talking about. There's ALWAYS a game going in Aspenwood.
True, I haven't been there in awhile simply due to the fact's that partying there was such a long pain in the arse and didn't enjoy the play when i did get with guild groups. I agree that aspenwood is the more popular of the 2, still think that both are pretty un-fun and have done both numerous times in the past.

Curse You

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by milias
This is kind of interesting, because this is exactly what people at those events have been complaining about, that people there didn't know what they were doing. So if the "good" people aren't at the events, and neither are they at the normal areas, where are they?

Besides, henchies are always there, and they do listen.
This difference is that at the events, people say that there are more bad players, but it's just because there are more players. The more people there are, the more likely you will end up with someone inexperienced.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
This difference is that at the events, people say that there are more bad players, but it's just because there are more players. The more people there are, the more likely you will end up with someone inexperienced.
Um, wrong. It increases the shear number of idiots, not the chance of getting one in your group. Regardless, that's what guilds are for.

I pwnd U

I pwnd U

God of Spammers

Join Date: Oct 2005

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Scars Meadows [SMS] (Officer)

This events are meant to be fun, not to cause a hassle. Just enjoy them. Give them time, they will go away. Once Nightfall comes out you wont see another one till Halloween or Christmas.

perfect

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I'm not against fun, or having them do something I like, but wouldn't you get suspicious if you parents suddenly started giving you presents all the time, for no reason?
Get lots of coal in your stocking at Christmas?





Seriously though these events are one of the best things that has happened to Guild Wars by giving incentive to try new areas you may have not bothered with.

EPO Bot

EPO Bot

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mo/N

Oh, i'm pretty happy with factions. You just need to take it easy and keep yourself from breezing trough it, deleting your character and do the same again. If i did that it would cease to be fun very fast indeed.

Caleb

Caleb

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/Me

I really enjoy the events, so I hope they don't stop them.

Carinae

Carinae

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Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
Would you care to tell me a way in which I could change the title, because last time I checked, it won't let me.
You could ask a moderator to chage the title to "Constructive Comments on the Constant Weekend Events" or something along those lines. "Stop the Events" isn't what you really meant anyway...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I really wish people would think a little more before posting. They are jumping to conclusions (almost all false) and getting worked up about nothing.
I have clearly stated, at least twice already, that I don't want the events gone, I want them reduced. Constant events may seem good to some of you, but other people want to just have a plain weekend.
I understand, and point taken regarding my post earlier. You have made some good points so far, but... you could have taken you own advice and used a non-flammable thread title. I don't want to beat on you here, a mistake is a mistake. It happens. Lets move forward.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
One of the biggest issues I have is that, if I try to ignore the event, it's not made very easy. Large masses of people will flood into areas for the event, and completely ignore normal areas. I might have wanted to do Thunderhead Keep or Raisu Palace this weekend, but I can't because most people are doing the event, and many of the people left aren't good enough.
Reasonable criticizm, but do you have an alternative besides having less 'events'? I would agree with previous posters that a Sorrows Furnace-type area, built for farmers, would be a better alternative to constant weekend events. Except that this weekend event is really PvP-centric.

Sure there are new items/skins dropping, but there is no indication that those will end after the weekend...think Totem Axes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
I'm not against fun, or having them do something I like, but wouldn't you get suspicious if you parents suddenly started giving you presents all the time, for no reason?
Well, of course it's Anet trying to keep player interest up until Nightfall. I think it's a given that Factions was disappointing to players and Anet. What I wonder, is if there has been a sharp dip in the player populations recently, and the events are the Anets pressing of the 'Alert' button (if not the Panic Button itself).

I'm not being an Alarmist...just asking. I haven't heard ANYTHING about the GW population lately, and that is a drum they beat on when things are going well. Silence is usually bad.

Curse You

Curse You

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Join Date: Apr 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by perfect
Seriously though these events are one of the best things that has happened to Guild Wars by giving incentive to try new areas you may have not bothered with.
Well maybe it's just me, but I already HAVE tried almost everything. I've done both Campaigns, UW, FoW, The Deep, RoTotPK, Sorrow's Furnace, Random Arenas, Team Arenas, Hero's Ascent, Fort Aspenwood, Jade Quarry. All I'm really missing is Urgotz Warren.

But either than that, I'm not saying the events have no use, I'm saying they're happening too often.

Two April Mornings

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Join Date: Nov 2005

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Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

and when is double glads points a bad thing?

MSecorsky

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Last night, even before double faction, I got into five Jade Quarry missions with no more than three countdowns of wait. It was a blast, altough the meager amount of faction offered tweaked at the greedy side of me (which I surpressed).

These events are great for the game, and the rapid fire of them of late is drawing more people into Cantha to see what's next. Bring em on, I for one enjoy them.

Pssst... Halloween comes soon! (Please bring back Ghosts in the box!)

Sir Skullcrasher

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California

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why stop the events if factions is already low on player population? I mean look at what these events have done. We seen more peoples in Cantha now a day than it was first released.

dr1zz one

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

These events have been pretty cool. I didn't participate in all of them, just the ones I liked. They have brought me back to Cantha, at least for the events.

My take is: If you dont like an event....dont take part. If you do like an event....enjoy it as much as you can before its gone. Nobody is forcing you to play these events.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by MSecorsky
Pssst... Halloween comes soon! (Please bring back Ghosts in the box!)
YAY! I had a lot of fun at Halloween! It was sooooo fun!!!! Probably the best 'event' ever.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
and when is double glads points a bad thing?
When you don't need or want them

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
When you don't need or want them
Don't play in the PvP arenas then.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

/signed

While I know some people enjoy these, I implore you to look at the cost of these events in terms of an opportunity forgone. While the double this, double that might provide a little interest for that weekend, the time could have been better spent by Anet working on lasting improvements to the game. Do you want an auction system, or do you want three months of having some random thing double on the weekends? I vote auction system.

gabrial heart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann
Don't play in the PvP arenas then.
Huh? I'm saying that i don't need them, I've had 10k balths for many months with no way of spending it, since I've unlocked all my skills/mods/runes already (mostly by capping/ID'ing)... How does that equate to "don't play pvp arenas"?

My only point was double points just doesn't appeal to me till the next chapter, I still enjoy pvp just the same. Not a good or bad thing for me at this point

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

I like all the new things, but I wish they would be not just Cantha exclusive. That gets insanely annoying.

Farin

Farin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

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Some people just have to complain about everything. I honestly don't care nor am I bothered by the events.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

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stop the events?.. they should have events every week! they do nothing but GOOD things for the whole of guildwars.

I for one will be very sad when they do stop.. I will be figety and irratable like a recovering drug addict.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
Huh? I'm saying that i don't need them, I've had 10k balths for many months with no way of spending it, since I've unlocked all my skills/mods/runes already (mostly by capping/ID'ing)... How does that equate to "don't play pvp arenas"?

My only point was double points just doesn't appeal to me till the next chapter, I still enjoy pvp just the same. Not a good or bad thing for me at this point
Your original post said that double "glads points" were a bad thing if you didn't want/need them.

gabrial heart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann
Your original post said that double "glads points" were a bad thing if you didn't want/need them.
Yeah, I just wanted in the the contradiction. Fun times!

Mordakai

Mordakai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

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Meh, the events are fine.

I got to see a little of the Elite quests, which basically convinced me I wasn't missing anything but a very long quest I don't have time to complete.

I just went about my normal business during the "Chest Drop" event, even found a normal group to do the Ascension mission. The Celestial farmers were out there, of course, but what else is new?

This weekend, if I have time, I'll try to check out the opened outposts. Maybe try some PvP builds there. But, if I don't, no big loss.

As for these events "taking time away from an Auction house": please! It take little effort to bring in some NPCs to take you to a previously locked place. I'd rather Anet do little things like this AND be working on an Auction house at the same time.

Doing one doesn't necessarily exclude the other.

Sir Skullcrasher

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
YAY! I had a lot of fun at Halloween! It was sooooo fun!!!! Probably the best 'event' ever.
I can't wait either!! I wonder which place Mad King will show up to? Tyria or Cantha?

Beat_Go_Stick

Beat_Go_Stick

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

It's not like they tie you down and force you to participate. Why would you want these to stop? I just don't get it.....

I don't necessarily take part in all the events but some people have a lot of fun with them. Why would I ask anet to stop them when others are having fun with them?

/notsigned

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

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California

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W/Mo

I don't think A-Net will ever stop creating different events in the future!

/not signed

Amity and Truth

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

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I, with all given respect and honesty, don't really understand the actual problem with these events. I've read the OP, i've read the thread (this and several others) and i have to fight the reflex to just say "Nonsense, that's just some teenage rebelism". You know, the kind of "I'm against it. Doesn't matter what it is" mentality.

So far, we mainly had two major arguments:

- Events cause very bad Inflation (Argument is often backed up by claims that a now found weapon is worth less than before while the rare skins are still rare).

- Other Updates would be more important.


And some minor arguments of course, like "it's causing lag!" or "it's decreasing the loot in areas" or "they used it to nerf xyz". You know, those kind of arguments which are purely based on superstition and "feelings". Using them for or against your point only devalues the worth of your arguments.

Back to the two major arguments.

- Devalued Items:
All i have to do here is to ask two simple questions. "Oh really?" and "And this hurts the game why exactly...?". No one can provide a proof that one or another event has caused a heavy lingering impact on gold and items. Oh yes, i allready see some folks with the Torches and Pikes out to kill me for even denying their "truth". To those i can only say, wait another week and your item will recover again.
Items being devalued is a natural process of Guild Wars though. The events are not at fault though. It's the simple flaw or design decision to not include some sort of wear down on items and weapons. And thus, with each drop in the game another item is added to the pool, but they can't be taken out of the pool again.
OF COURSE (!) this will lead to the point that only the "perfect" items are being bought. Why accept anything less if the pool is filled with allready perfect weapons? Sure, a double loot event doesn't actually help the situation. But it doesn't hurt either. Not to a degree you could feel it at.

- Time used for the events:
Maybe someone must have a basic knowledge of programming languages to see this. It actually takes more time to think one of those double events up than it takes to implement them. It's actually as simple as adding a x2 to a few variables in a centralized file. They don't even had to modify the loot tables or anything else for this. All they had to do is modify the vars for the chests. One var for each type of chest. Even with locational differences thats not more than 50 different types of chests. So adding a "x2" to 50 lines. You can try this in notepad and see how fast you can do it.

/minor edit for wording:
Yes, they edited the Loot tables to improve the drop probability for keys. Yet again that were even less lines to change than above.


So, what is the problem with the events again? I still have not understood why people are against this.

Is it "change"? Is it negativity for the simple sake of being the thorn in the roses? I'd agree if the events were more frequent than they are. But one event every weekend... that's just fine. It's like throwing a stone into the water and waiting for the waves to subside, before throwing another stone into the water. MORE Events than just weekly would cause the waves to intermerge and cause chaos. Less events would simply add nothing except a period of waiting.
I have to applaud A-Net for having found a healthy balance on which to base the events at. I wasn't happy with every change being made lately but the events are fine and i don't see them causing any harm.