highest lvl reached in pre searing ?

oHcHeese

oHcHeese

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Hi all, I was just wondering, what would the highest lvl be that u can reach in pre searing ? 15 or something ?
and if you have your char in pre searing for 1 year, will it get a minipet?

thanks

Doomlord_Slayermann

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The highest ever reached was level 20, but they fixed that exploit. Now I'm not sure, but I believe it would be around 15.

And yes, I believe you can get your minipet in presearing.

Avarre

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Yes, you will get a minipet, and the highest level was 20 (which has been achieved through dying to level up mobs, then killing them for xp once you no longer get xp from charr bosses). Not sure if you can still do that, the charr wont follow you but you could level wolves etc

Doomlord_Slayermann

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
Yes, you will get a minipet, and the highest level was 20 (which has been achieved through dying to level up mobs, then killing them for xp once you no longer get xp from charr bosses). Not sure if you can still do that, the charr wont follow you but you could level wolves etc
The exploit has been fixed for some time now.

Livingston

Livingston

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Unless there is some kind of actual cap that anet has put on it, you would be able to find out by looking at what the highest level mob is in PS and then take whatever level would stop gaining XP from that mob. Then add up all the XP that you can get from presearing missions, including the first, second proffesion quests of each different profession. That should give you the total XP you could earn and thus the level.

Its this way as in theory you could grind up to whatever level you could get and then do all the missions to get whatever bonus XP you can.

I don't know any of the specifics, but it would be an interesting test to run.

Livingston

foo

foo

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you can get to level 16:
you stop geting xp from a mob once you are 6 levels over it, and charr bosses are level 10. sadly, all quests are not enough to get you up to level 17, which means that the best option is to get to level 15, then do all quests and get the rewards, and then kill the bosses over and over for the last hundreds of xp.

Martian

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I once saw this level 17 mesmer in full black collecters armour in pre-sear.
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I pwnd U

I pwnd U

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I saw a level 20 before they fixed the exploit. Now i usually only see lvl 15s.

Xx Invictus xX

Xx Invictus xX

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God antipowers was a lvl 20 umm necro i believe

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

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did these lvl 20 presearers get to keep their lvl 20s after the update? or did anet ask them to delete or move on to post?

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

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I'd imagine they're still there. It's not like it's really hurting the game for anyone else.

the sly edge

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you can get to lvl 20 but i like gettin out of n00by land asap
and yes you do get a mini pet if your in n00by land for a year
hope this helps

P.S. im usually around 10 when i get out

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

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Quote:
Originally Posted by the sly edge
you can get to lvl 20 but i like gettin out of n00by land asap
and yes you do get a mini pet if your in n00by land for a year
hope this helps

P.S. im usually around 10 when i get out
Doesn't help. I repeat it again: they fixed the exploit for reaching level 20 in presearing.

Charqus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/

It was lvl 20 but that is no longer possible.
It was painstaking getting to lvl 20 tho because you had to die so much that the monsters leveled up and then you'd kill them.

Sir fredman

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the highest level i saw was a level 18 warrior with silver collectors armor thats the most i saw =p

Malice Black

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let this die, the question has been answered more then enough times now.

Lord Aro

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I got a ranger to 16 or 17 by soloing the charr area, don't recall exactly it's been a long time (guess lvl 16 from above statements).

Still wonder why the searing occured when I went on that mission, those monster in the cutscene died so many times.. though they were always out there to kill repeatedly. Guess there's some charr that can rez in hiding.


Oh, let the topic die. Umm, right.

MrGuildBoi

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remember when factions beta came out? they used to use that exploit where necros can use flesh golem

Sasuke The Betrayer

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This trick is NOT nerfed. You can still get level 20. If you really are interested in how to get level 20, whisper me...its Sasuke The Betrayer. Btw-Getting to level 20 in pre, nowadays, just takes TONS of times. Its worth it though when every is in awe of your level

Livingston

Livingston

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I don't know what weird secret ways you could go about getting level 20, but I believe that you can make it to level 17 still.

Ok here's the deal.

You can gain XP from mobs until you are 6 levels above them. The highest-level mobs in PS are the Charr Bosses at level 10. So of course you can go to level 16 using them.

I have looked up the PS quest list on Guildwiki so here is what you can get from quests. This is by area (W/o profession quests):

Ascalon City - 11 quests = 2900 XP
Lakeside County - 14 quests = 3750
The Catacombs - 1 quest = 250
Barradin's Estate - 1 quest = 750
Regent Valley - 1 quest = 250

So all up you can get 7900 without the profession quests

For the profession quests you need to play a mixture of warrior, monk, ranger, or necromancer. Mesmers and Elementalists have one less quest than the others, so it will not work if you choose one of them as one of your professions.

You then do the Test Quest for your primary profession for 500 XP. This gives you your basic primary skills.

You then do a New Trainer Quest and pick any secondary you wish to use for 250 XP.

Next you can do all six secondary profession quests for each profession. Simply choose whatever secondary profession you wish to keep for last and then make that one your permanent secondary. This will net you 1500 more XP.

If you chose some combination of Warrior/Ranger/Monk/Necromancer you will then have two more quests for your primary profession and two more quests for your secondary profession. This will give you an additional 1000 XP. If you chose Necromancer as one of your professions you will gain another 250 XP, as the quest The Accursed Path gives you 500 XP rather than 250 XP like all of the other extra profession quests.

So you have 7,900 XP without the profession quests.
The profession quests add another 3250 or 3500 XP with Necromancer.

So the total XP for Presearing quests is either 11,150 or 11,400 (with Necro).

According to this chart - Chart 1 - It takes 11,000 XP to get from level 16 to level 17.

So as you can see, you have a 150-400 XP buffer to get level 17.

Now the problem with this is that you can not even do the first quest to get your primary profession's basic skills, as this quest gives you 500 XP and you can't get the skills until you complete the quest.

You can't even take the quests from other trainers who normally give you skills to use before you complete the quest, as you have to complete your primary profession's first quest before you can take theirs.

So if you want to reach level 17 you have to grind to level 14 killing only mobs and having absolutely no skills to use or additional attribute points. Then from level 14 to 16 you would have to keep entering the Northern Territory to kill the few level 10 Charr bosses they have, each time having to be in a group or at least having someone open the gate for you each time you need to rezone to respawn the few bosses they have.

Once you grind to level 16 from that, only then would you be able to start taking quests and finally get your skills and attribute points as you work your way to 17.

So yes I believe it is possible for you to do this, but if you do then you probably don't have a life...

Please feel free to check my math and tell me if something doesn't add up right with the different quests and XP levels.

Livingston

Doomlord_Slayermann

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasuke The Betrayer
This trick is NOT nerfed. You can still get level 20. If you really are interested in how to get level 20, whisper me...its Sasuke The Betrayer. Btw-Getting to level 20 in pre, nowadays, just takes TONS of times. Its worth it though when every is in awe of your level
It always took tons of time, and the trick is definitely nerfed. Why not share with us your uber-secret method?

Henchman

Henchman

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Join Date: Jan 2006

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I think there still might be a way although it would indeed take a ton of time.
You could enter the academy mission, hope for high level human opponents, kill them, and then quit. You can also time your entry with your high level buddies, and you might go face to face with them.

Just an idea, never tried it before.

Doomlord_Slayermann

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Henchman
I think there still might be a way although it would indeed take a ton of time.
You could enter the academy mission, hope for high level human opponents, kill them, and then quit. You can also time your entry with your high level buddies, and you might go face to face with them.

Just an idea, never tried it before.
That would indeed work. Good idea.

Livingston

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann
That would indeed work. Good idea.
So if you quit in that mission you will definitely go back to PS, or is there a chance that you will go through anyway?

Livingston

Mournblade

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I'm not sure that would work. I got err=7'd once during the fight and when I logged back in I was in Ascalon City, Post Sear.

Livingston

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I just tested it and it doesn't work.

You leave Ascalon for the war prep and play in the timed PVP fight, if you quit in the middle of it, when you log back in it automatically slots you into the next PvE area in the academy, which leads to Searing. There is no way to get back to PS from there that I can see.

Livingston

Doomlord_Slayermann

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That's definitely a change. Sorry for the confusion.

Henchman

Henchman

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Livingston
I just tested it and it doesn't work.

You leave Ascalon for the war prep and play in the timed PVP fight, if you quit in the middle of it, when you log back in it automatically slots you into the next PvE area in the academy, which leads to Searing. There is no way to get back to PS from there that I can see.

Livingston
I don't know, its seems weird, I remember I once left the academy mission and nothing changed. Can't you use the 'map' function? I'll try this myself and I'll let you know.

leeky baby

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann
I'd imagine they're still there. It's not like it's really hurting the game for anyone else.
there was somebody who got to level 20 and used the guild hall to export vitcos axe supior axe extra into pre and he was asked to delete his charchter i beleve and wasnt given the option to move it into post >.<

Doomlord_Slayermann

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Quote:
Originally Posted by leeky baby
there was somebody who got to level 20 and used the guild hall to export vitcos axe supior axe extra into pre and he was asked to delete his charchter i beleve and wasnt given the option to move it into post >.<
Ouch. If your story is true (and that sounds like an internet rumor) then ArenaNet has some serious issues.

Caleb

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doomlord_Slayermann
Ouch. If your story is true (and that sounds like an internet rumor) then ArenaNet has some serious issues.
The guild hall exploit was definitely real, there were dozens of threads on this forum about it once they fixed it. Runes, max level gold and green weapons, etc - all were "imported" to presearing.

Occasionally you will still see an ad from someone selling them, at exorbitantly high figures.

johan the destroyer

johan the destroyer

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If someone sells an "imported" weapon in pre-searing for lots of money...who would have that kind of money in pre? Would you just have to trust that the person gives you the items after you give them the money on another character or vice-versa?

Doomlord_Slayermann

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I know it was real. I'm just somewhat suprised that ArenaNet made someone delete a character for it.

awsomeness healing

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Now. since it has been "fixed." you can go to lv 16 killing the char bosses. but if you save all your quest you may go up to 17 or somwhere around there

Livingston

Livingston

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Henchman
I don't know, its seems weird, I remember I once left the academy mission and nothing changed. Can't you use the 'map' function? I'll try this myself and I'll let you know.
No you can't. The clickies don't show up once you enter the PvP battle.

Livingston

Tetris L

Tetris L

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Here is an idea. The key question is: Do you get XP for killing hostile minions?

If yes, then you could party with a necromancer. He uses Animate Bone Horror to build a minion army. With 12 Death Magic his Bone Horrors will be level 14, which is higher than any foe in pre-searing. Now, if he manages to suicide somehow, all his minions turn hostile, and the other party member can kill the minions for the XP. Or, if he suicides near a rez shrine the necro may even kill his own minions, so he can do this all solo.

Did I miss something? Any reason why this wouldn't work?

Doomlord_Slayermann

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Just tested this, and the answer, unfortunately is no. Hostile minions do not give you XP.

Tetris L

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Bummer. There go my patent license fees.

Marty Silverblade

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I doubt lvl 20 is possible now. If it is then it's probably gonna take a hell of a long time. Anyway, the best I've seen is Jack The Undeadking at lvl 15

Timmy Shinobi

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Ive seen a 15 as well . Lvl 20 though I think is not possible because certain enemies once youre a high lvl would not give any experience.