Nightfall: End of MMs?

MMs have one weakness: stai....err...Dervish.

If a Dervish gets close to a minion army, his Scythe kills them 3 times as fast. In addition, Dervish have their PBAOE skills, which would also cream minions.

Dervish will no doubt be plentiful in the Nightfall campaign.

Do you think people will begin asking for SS instead of MM?

Isn't SS a Prophecies skill..
hmm.

Well, the majority of the Necros that will play in Factions will be from Prophecies.

It doesn't stop people for asking them for 4-man farm groups in Factions...

They will probably all become Dervish.

ZOMGWTFBBQ DERVISH FTW lol my stupidstatement oftheday.. in any case ifan MM uses Fiends they will be fine aginst a derivhs since fiends tend to spread out a lil bit.

is that PvP of PvE? if it is PvP MM is never a choice except Map with lots of corpse, eg, AB.

If it is PvE, it doesnt even matter. Most Necro can switch between MM and SS already and MM is still good in PvE.

Unless, the Dervish mobs all got banish strike and PBAOE equipped on them, but well, thats mean MM need to use bone fiend instead to keep them out of melee range.

Whats with everyone getting so dramatic over this.

I know the enchantment builds were good but really Dervish aren't THAT powerful.

Doom for this, doom for that, the end of this, the end of that.
Its not going to be a big deal.

Just make fiends... they are long range and should not be holding the aggro >_>

1) Not all minions are melee attackers.
2) Death Nova FTW
3) Well of the Profane FTW

what Tetris said, and A-Net is really good with nerfing stuff also

Never know, the new minions, which i expect there will be, could be pretty cool, never know what they will come up with next.

Dervis will run into FoW and Tombs now as mobs? If yes panic, if not I dont care.

If not so much related to dervishes, my guess is that MM will take a hit in Nightfall.

Faction PvE has been very centered around minion armies and dealing massive AoE damage. Making single target focused characters like Mesmer, Assassin and Blood Necro unwanted in most groups. It does not take much to change that. Fewer, stronger monsters that do not cluster, but run around (like the berserkers in FoW), nonfleshy monsters, monsters with insanely tough armour, etc.

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Cloudbunny

Assassin's and even Ritualist's weakness are big groups of enemies and thats why Factions is full of them. Dervish and Paragon are weak against single targets because their main focus is taking out big groups and giving out shouts to do it which is why Nighfall will have fewer groups but they will be damn strong.

Anyone see that huge giant like creature in one of the videos? Thats what I'm talking about.

MMs won't suffer against Dervish too bad. First off they won't do much better then a Ranger attacking a bunched up group of pets with barrage and second a necro could probably do enough drains to take out a Dervish.

Death nova all your minions so after the Dervish creams the minions, the derv gets nuked.

Flying minions with lazers?

I sense more enchantment hate in the future...

Enchantment removing minions?

K, anet doesn't really need to make a total minion master killing profession, few easy skills can get rid of them, like that smiting elite and veratas aura. And if the dervish will be this powerful against minions, just put dwaynas sorrow on your minions (or death nova). At 10 heals, dwaynas sorrow heals your part like 35 hp when the creature dies. 35*10 = 350 heal for your total party.

I really dont think minion masters are that powerful though. My minion master is my main character and i've been playing him since the beginning of prophecies and they have gone through enough nerfs.

Which makes me wonder why would someone do that. I mean it would be logical that they made new classes good in campaign they come with.

End of the day. They are still using a melee weapon. Plenty of counters to that. Blind, empathy, spiteful spirit, etc.