EULA changed

Absurd ... only in America?

Pff, at least justice exists elsewhere in the world. Did E-bay really believe such a clause could hold?

well, well, well

i got my cc statement covering the day of my slot purchase and guess what?

NO SERVICE CHARGE AT ALL JUST THE SLOT CHARGE.

CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS?

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Stockholm, I'm beginning to think you have a personal vendetta against NC...

Nope, when you first bought the game you agreed that ANET has the right to alter the "agreement".

yeah... in regards to the OP--->


did you notice that it says they will delete ALL accounts with matching information?? Meaning if you have one account dedicated to farming/mule, your real account will be suspended as well!


Im scared!!! I dont even farm as it is, but now im too afraid to spam "CULT LF PPL TO JOIN OMG LOL PVP PVE etc" and district hopping copy paste, hop, paste, hop, paste, hop.... ack... dont confuse me with a bot!!!

Nope, that part was long after the sale.

Yeah, new EULA. Nothing unusual, although the bit about "we will eat your children" and forced worship of Satan was a bit over the top; I feel they had already covered most eventualities in section 14:vii-xxii where you agreed to sell your entire family into slavery. But, then again, IANAL.

What Nonsense! The EULA concerns the GAME that you installed on your computer, in this case Guild Wars, it has no bearing whatsoever on PlayNC accounts!
If you never applied for recurring charges, they can be held liable for fraud if they do so, No reputable business would dare to do something that foolish! And WHAT "no change to e-mail policy?" Is that in the EULA for GW? Or is it a requirement for having a PlayNC account? If the latter, it has no bearing on GW!
More BS! I would suspect that most GW players don't even HAVE a PlayNC account. There is no requirement to have such an account and I'm sure that as soon as (like it will ever happen) they start requiring people to have a PlayNC account (if it requires giving out CC info) there'll be a mass exodus from the game.

Originally Posted by Gaile
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Originally Posted by katya
Ouch. Personally, I wouldn't do that because if you ever need to answer an email sent for account management you're unable to do that.

However, I've been unable to find a way to change my Guild Wars game account email address recently. (I change mine + password every few months) With the advent of the store this option seems to have disappeared? Has anybody seen it?

I will try to find out about that. I was made aware of the fact just today -- that if you use the store, your account is in the PlayNC system, and that system seems to prevent changing the User Name. This is something we should either communicate about more clearly or amend, if possible.


If they have used the online store they do now, the online store is managed by PlayNC

OK, and what gave you this idea?

Like I said, you seem to have a personal vendetta against NC (An odd one if you still play GW) but you haven't even commented.

No idea what I mean?

What gives?

Not NC just PlayNC

I had to write them 3 times( thats not counting e-mails and phone calls) and put a pay stop on my CC for them to cancel my account, witch I never applied for. All I did was to take them up on a 14 day trial key to Linage, back then you had to give CC info for them to activate the trial account. Never got any charges for the game only monthly charges for the PlayNC account.


This had nothing to do with GW, it was Linage trial account that was cancelled( 24 hours after acctivation) according to NC-Softs directives, but charges for a PlayNC support account was charged and kept getting charged for even after I had disputed it with PlayNC.
So yes I have a vendetta with PlayNC

But... Why?

If you're going to slag off something PLEASE give us a valid reason that can be proven.
[EDIT] and since PlayNC is owned by NC Soft, you are technically slagging off NC Soft...

looks like the actual eula change might be innocuous, but still, it's NCSoft pulling the strings and Gaile, et al, often has to do the dirty work of relaying it in a positive light.

That being said, I'm as hardcore a player as most of the people here are, and if that PtP thing ever comes, that's the last I play anything made by NCSoft. Truth be told I've held off buying some games but that's recently changed -- got Elder Scrolls 4, Far Cry, and Call of Cthulhu a couple days ago (factions is boring as hell for the PvE'er).

Right you are! I would do the same.

If I had to pay to play I will be the one to choose the game to play. GW is a nice game, but there are others.

when they say "alternate fee structure", I think it refers to the pay for play they already have for GW in some asian countries

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10029533

Well, if we did have to pay, you'd see a much larger pve world.

Shouldn't worry about the "deleting accounts" rule if you're not gonna break any?

hey did anyone actually read the agreement thing? i wanted to know what it siad but i just accepted and i asked other people but no one read it...

So, I didn't feel like agreeing to the new UA since they failed to specify what you changed. Lo and behold, I couldn't play the game anymore.

I would just like to inform you that this is illegal over here. You can not change an EULA/UA and deny the user access to what he already has paid for and used (in this case GuildWars Prophecies and Factions). You can change the EULA/UA for any new features (like the Character slots, or the upcoming chapters) - but what they are doing here is theft and illegal under most jurisdictions in the Nordic Countries. This got Apple and iTunes in hotwater (well part of it) with our governments - because if you denied their new EULA you couldn't play what you had bought. Same thing here.

I paid for GuildWars and GuildWars:Factions, they can not legally deny me the right to play these even if I don't accept your changed UAs.

And no, simply saying in the UA/EULA that you have the right to change it at will, doesn't make it so legally when you then deny players access if they don't accept their changes. What would happen if you suddenly wrote in the UA that everyone had to give you their car, their homes and all their money? Over the top I know, but you may get the point.

Furthermore, IN GAME UAs or UAs displayed while installing, or even included INSIDE a sealed container are not valid here. Any such "agreement" must be agreed upon before completion of the product... and if once opened the product can not normally be returned then the UAs is invalid.

For an international company they would do well to look beyond the anti-consumer and silly rules of the US of A.

But you folks all just click ok and sell your souls??

So, I didn't feel like agreeing to the new UA since they failed to specify what you changed. Lo and behold, I couldn't play the game anymore.

I would just like to inform you that this is illegal over here. You can not change an EULA/UA and deny the user access to what he already has paid for and used (in this case GuildWars Prophecies and Factions). You can change the EULA/UA for any new features (like the Character slots, or the upcoming chapters) - but what they are doing here is theft and illegal under most jurisdictions in the Nordic Countries. This got Apple and iTunes in hotwater (well part of it) with our governments - because if you denied their new EULA you couldn't play what you had bought. Same thing here.

I paid for GuildWars and GuildWars:Factions, they can not legally deny me the right to play these even if I don't accept your changed UAs.

And no, simply saying in the UA/EULA that you have the right to change it at will, doesn't make it so legally when you then deny players access if they don't accept their changes. What would happen if you suddenly wrote in the UA that everyone had to give you their car, their homes and all their money? Over the top I know, but you may get the point.

Furthermore, IN GAME UAs or UAs displayed while installing, or even included INSIDE a sealed container are not valid here. Any such "agreement" must be agreed upon before completion of the product... and if once opened the product can not normally be returned then the UAs is invalid.

For an international company they would do well to look beyond the anti-consumer and silly rules of the US of A.

But you folks all just click ok and sell your souls??