Rt/me Smite Crawler Solo

iltasso

iltasso

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Italy

Leader of IM Ultima Weapon [UW]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by osk
wow war/mesmer.
did u fight the aaxte at the beginning or run pass them like all of us Rt do? I run pass them but i think it can be done (kill aatxes) if i change sprint and glad with somethingelse, but imo this way is faster and without risk while if u fight the aatxes the run becomes slower and if something goes wrong...

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Leather Rebels, (LR)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by iltasso
thanks for the build!!!!!!!!!!

I did with my warr/mesmer

ROFL

GG, gg

maybe you could try some whirlwind, on your knees stuff, recharge glad few times

Witte Was

Witte Was

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Left GW

Proud Member of : Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

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What about a Me/E

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Leather Rebels, (LR)

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need to see some smiteage death there witte, mainly because smite killing is whole purpose of soloing uw, they the ones with the "better" drops, aatxes are more the less, "obstacles" imo, until then the rt/me can be considered the most effecient

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bolteh
Hmm, working quite well now, but still having problems taking the last group of graspings if one is stuck behind an aaxte at the bottom end of the stairs.. if I haste paste the 2 static aaxtes, the aaxte blocking the grasping charges at me and he keeps following since haste has stopped and there isn't enough room for me to run (to the gate)..

Anyone have an idea hwo to take that last grasping? What is your Illusion Magic set at? You should be able to run past the 2 static Aatxe's AND past the one on the stairs to the safe spot just as Dahnel did in the video. If you hug the wall and run right to the closed doors, nothing should be on you except a grasp if you agro it. I dropped my inspiration down to like a 3 since you don't need physical resistance up that long. Everything dies pretty fast. This should allow you to have Illusion up to 12 I think. Add a 20% longer enchants to your weapon and you'll be able to out run the Aatxe you're having problems with. This will also help if the doors open and you agro the 2 bulls. With 12 in Illusion, you could safely run back to the spawn point with no problems.

slimejocke

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

CA

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Are you sure the focus is at Vasburg Armory? I checked wiki and its not there on the list. Also if you could afford runes what runes would you use? Armor?

Zerimar

Zerimar

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by slimejocke
I checked wiki and its not there on the list. Also if you could afford runes what runes would you use? Armor?
Uh..sup restoration+minor restoration+hat is really all you need. And he says he uses the +armor while holding item, but have the +energy and i can solo just fine.

Quote:
Originally Posted by deacon roswell
What is your Illusion Magic set at? You should be able to run past the 2 static Aatxe's AND past the one on the stairs to the safe spot just as Dahnel did in the video. If you hug the wall and run right to the closed doors, nothing should be on you except a grasp if you agro it. I dropped my inspiration down to like a 3 since you don't need physical resistance up that long. Everything dies pretty fast. This should allow you to have Illusion up to 12 I think. Add a 20% longer enchants to your weapon and you'll be able to out run the Aatxe you're having problems with. This will also help if the doors open and you agro the 2 bulls. With 12 in Illusion, you could safely run back to the spawn point with no problems. I have some of his problems too, didnt think to lower inspiration and up illusion. There have been some instances where the aatxe on the stairs follows me all the way to door.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zerimar
There have been some instances where the aatxe on the stairs follows me all the way to door. hmmm do you stop between the stairs and the doors to recast IoH ? if so that would explain it as it alows them to gain ground on you and would'nt give you enough room to outrun them ...if not are make sure you do have enough space to outrun them :P

Beowulf1982

Beowulf1982

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

The Combine

Rt/Me

great build but mine is a little better (i can kill coldfires with my build but not shown in the video i have.

here is my video

http://video.google.nl/videoplay?doc...03441373&hl=nl

sorry on my next video more variaty in music.

my best run was 10m 35s (4 ectos 3 gold weapons)

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf1982
great build but mine is a little better (i can kill coldfires with my build but not shown in the video i have. How is this a little better? It's the exact same build except for one skill change. I would hardly call that "your" build. That is Dahnel's build and you use it the exact same as he did. Killing coldfires gives you no real advantage at all. There's no point in killing them since they drop nothing of value and are easily avoided.
Copying someone's well thought genuine build and changing one skill does not make it your build.

XvArchonvX

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

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I tried Dahnel's build out for a good while, and while it was fun and can make it through UW, I found it a bit dependant in spawn. Every once in a while I had a spawn where a nightmare between the starting area and the first door would snare me and allow the Aatxes to crush me before I could recast IoH.

In my personal opinion, the dual run is still faster and more reliable, but I had fun trying this one out. I send my respect to Dahnel for discovering it.

jinkas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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What armor is everyone using for this? The OP mentions Oracle's and someone else mentioned Halcyon's. I'm about to buy 15k armor for my Rit and would like to get Halcyon's (since that is what I use when I'm not farming), so I wanted to know if the armor bonus from Oracle's is really worth it. The only benefit I can see is that you get healed for more (relatively) from VwK because the smites hit you for less. Opinions, please.

The Legg

The Legg

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

RAF Lyneham, UK

We Are Gozu ( Gozu )

N/Me

I use the energy armour for both uw and fow farming. I find the extra energy helps a great deal when holding the ashes. Correct use on phys resistance really negates the use of other armours. With the extra energy you can keep sv and av up while still being able to spam vengeful weapon. Coldfires not a problem either.

Good luck with the ecto

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaero Gouki Kriegor
" imo, until then the rt/me can be considered the most effecient " The Rt/Me is not the most effective..... Its down right brutal. LOL
I'm still amazed they did not nerf it in the last update.

Btw... Aatxes have the highest % chance to drop ecto not the smites But smites drop more golds then anything else.

Either way ya look at it,... its the closest anything has come to pre aoe nerf 55 UW solo farming.

It also makes for extremely fast 2 man in both UW and FoW if you choose to run with a friend.

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Leather Rebels, (LR)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf1982
great build but mine is a little better (i can kill coldfires with my build but not shown in the video i have.
thats extremely amazing, it must be better if it can kill coldfires

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel

Beowulf1982

Beowulf1982

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2005

Netherlands

The Combine

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deacon Roswell
How is this a little better? It's the exact same build except for one skill change. I would hardly call that "your" build. That is Dahnel's build and you use it the exact same as he did. Killing coldfires gives you no real advantage at all. There's no point in killing them since they drop nothing of value and are easily avoided.
Copying someone's well thought genuine build and changing one skill does not make it your build. if you watch my movie it will show that i know thats its Dahnel's Build, i improved it so if it happens that you agro coldfires during the smite run you are able to kill em and then move on. so next time if you want to burst someone bubble make sure you have all the information

Deacon Roswell

Deacon Roswell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

San Diego

Absence of Evidence [AoE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beowulf1982
if you watch my movie it will show that i know thats its Dahnel's Build, i improved it so if it happens that you agro coldfires during the smite run you are able to kill em and then move on. so next time if you want to burst someone bubble make sure you have all the information
LOL
1. See post above. Dahnels build is capable of killing colds.
2. You're still not getting it. You specifically stated "my build is better" and referenced "my build" several times.
Instead of trying to make it sound like "your build", next time try stating it as a varation.
"I swapped skill X for skill Z in my variation of Dahnel's build and it seems to work better for me"
That give's credit where credit is due and doesn't sound like a 13 year old posting "mine is better than yours!"

Quote: Originally Posted by Saider maul Btw... Aatxes have the highest % chance to drop ecto not the smites But smites drop more golds then anything else Could you please provide some factual information to back that up? If not, then it's just your observation on your runs. For me, the smites drop 85% of the ecto I have received. I don't think you can really say one or the other drops more ecto. It seems to differ for players.

Quote:
Originally Posted by XvArchonvX
I tried Dahnel's build out for a good while, and while it was fun and can make it through UW, I found it a bit dependant in spawn. Every once in a while I had a spawn where a nightmare between the starting area and the first door would snare me and allow the Aatxes to crush me before I could recast IoH.

In my personal opinion, the dual run is still faster and more reliable, but I had fun trying this one out. I send my respect to Dahnel for discovering it. This Rt/Me is the fastest build by far. There is no spawn that causes problems for this build if you understand how to use it. I've done roughly 25 straight runs with no deaths and I've talked to a few others with the same success. If that nightmare is giving you problems, equip a wand or bow and hit Illusion of Haste. Run up and aggro the aatxes/grasps (spawning the nightmare) and run back to the starting position. The nigtmare won't strip you if you turn around as soon as you hear him spawn. Once the aatxes are back in place just wand the nightmare or lure him down to you. Make sure you have Illusion of Haste on if you are going anywhere near the aaxtxes just in case.
The only advantage a dual run has is that you can kill the aatxes too, but then you have to 50/50 drops so it's more profitable to go alone.

You can whisper me in game if you want to see what I'm trying to explain. A character from each of my accounts is listed <---- in my profile under the avatar. **My Ritualist is on the European servers though. I haven't made one on my American account.
Another thing that I think makes the first room easier is to take the grasps on the right first. After you take the quest, wait for the group on the right to come down. They almost always make at least one trip down the stairs. After that, they often get stuck behind the aatxe forcing you to run to the safe spot by the closed doors to kill them. This will make it much easier for those of you getting pinched at the closed doors while fighting the grasps up there.

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Leather Rebels, (LR)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Saider maul
The Rt/Me is not the most effective..... Its down right brutal. LOL
I'm still amazed they did not nerf it in the last update.

Btw... Aatxes have the highest % chance to drop ecto not the smites But smites drop more golds then anything else.

Either way ya look at it,... its the closest anything has come to pre aoe nerf 55 UW solo farming.

It also makes for extremely fast 2 man in both UW and FoW if you choose to run with a friend. yea, what if you had 2 friends with you, one with ss and etc, other with holy wrath and smiting enchantments and etc, can you imagine how fast that would be added on to the damage of Vengeful?

Bastian

Bastian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xaero Gouki Kriegor
yea, what if you had 2 friends with you, one with ss and etc, other with holy wrath and smiting enchantments and etc, can you imagine how fast that would be added on to the damage of Vengeful? If its time you're looking for - then sure. But my whole point of going down (as I would assume would be other's points) is to SOLO the area to get 100% of the drops and not have to split ecto's, golds, etc...

But sure, I bet there are plenty of ways to go about this faster with more people...

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Leather Rebels, (LR)

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yea i mean of course, rather go down and solo, but it would be an interesting test to see tests in *speed* of killing other things as well if you combined 3 offensives pitting out damage

*edit*

maybe this could re-evolutionize the 3 man fow solo, if you packed spell breaker and life bond on the monk with holy wrath and etc

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Lol..if only i knew how popular this whole rit farming thing would be when i soloed those first Am Fah assassins ...have to say thanks for the support guys.

100th post ftw.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

EDIT: why am i so retared ...double post ftl.

Bob Whills

Bob Whills

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

My rit now has more than 1 mil experience on like 15 days... thanks for the build.

Holz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Amazing build.. thanks man. After spending like 2 plats to find out how to pull the Graspings I was very happy I could move on, but got a little problem now.
When I'm at the Smites, those Coldfires just block everything for me. I can kill like 2 or 3 groups of Smites, then I come at the crossing with the Coldfires walking up and down etc., and I can't pass through, lol. I died more times getting pwnd by Coldfires than getting pwnd at the first part -___-.

I'd appreciate it if someone can give me a little help

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Avoid coldfires. Before aggroing smites, watch the coldfires path. It will always be the same. Basically, try to find a place where coldfires don't go, and pull the smites there.

Sentential

Sentential

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Team Dominatus [DoM]

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
Lol..if only i knew how popular this whole rit farming thing would be when i soloed those first Am Fah assassins ...have to say thanks for the support guys.

100th post ftw. http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rt/Me_V...l_Farmer#Usage

^^ All credit goes to you

lauren xx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

why cant this kill ataxes....and could u tell me what to do if they body block u

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by lauren xx
why cant this kill ataxes....and could u tell me what to do if they body block u The Aataxes are way to strong. They can hit up to 600 on a caster.

Sentential

Sentential

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Team Dominatus [DoM]

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
thats effin awesome Douchebag who stole your build complained to wiki to have it reverted to his half assed old one and not the one I edited on your behalf. If they dont fix it Im not going to bother fixing it again. Better to have a broken build on the wiki so that anet doesnt feel inclined to nerf it.

Dahnel

Dahnel

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sentential
Douchebag who stole your build complained to wiki to have it reverted to his half assed old one and not the one I edited on your behalf. If they dont fix it Im not going to bother fixing it again. Better to have a broken build on the wiki so that anet doesnt feel inclined to nerf it. Heh. Its cool, i know what i created, and the good folks at guru know so its whatever

...kinda flattering that someone would even consider stealing it :P

imsystem

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

northern cal

You could just kill the coldfires too. Just dont use physical resistance or the visages and move out of there malestrom. I wouldent recomend taking on more then 3 at a time though and the time it takes to kill them is not worth it unless you have to. Be sure not to take on smites and coldfires though.

dr1zz one

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

R/

Dahnel, thanks for the build. With a few minor changes, i was able to go thru a lot of Factions and am currently working my way thru Tyria. Plus, this helped me get a few armors for some of my needy characters.
Thats kinda sad about wiki, i checked out the link, checked it again later in the day and it was changed.
Also, with your build, i almost cleared out all the coldfires as well. It was more of a challenge, but very simple to do if needed. I lost my concentration on the last group because i was prematurely celebrating. lol

Fernando Vidigal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Xcelenz [xLz]

W/Mo

i still can't kill the cold fires.

How you guys kill them, or put here a video explaining how to kill them.

Thanks Dahnel for the build.

thanks everyone for helping

jinkas

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2006

Scars Meadows [SMS]

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Rather than wasting time learning how to kill the coldfires, I would suggest that you spend time learning their patrols and how to avoid them. They take a while to kill and don't drop anything good, and it's possible to kill all the smites without the coldfires ever noticing you (which I've always found to be strange...."Hey Lou, weren't there some little spidery guys over here last time we walked past? Where'd they go?").

You can get through the run MUCH faster if you avoid all the coldfires.

Bastian

Bastian

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by jinkas
Rather than wasting time learning how to kill the coldfires, I would suggest that you spend time learning their patrols and how to avoid them. They take a while to kill and don't drop anything good, and it's possible to kill all the smites without the coldfires ever noticing you (which I've always found to be strange...."Hey Lou, weren't there some little spidery guys over here last time we walked past? Where'd they go?").

You can get through the run MUCH faster if you avoid all the coldfires. I agree. Learn the spots that coldfires don't go and kill the smites first. However, coldfires do drop the new gloom shield (i think thats the name of it) and can be killed after killing the smites. Easiest way I have found is hit up echo and aggro. Then use VwK. Stay outta maelstrom by moving around. You will need to use soothing and vengeful weapon at critical spots once your 3 VwK's stop. But after spamming vengeful weapon and VwK and by moving around they can be killed. It does take some time tho - although not a significant amount. Plus, gloom shields are pretty rare - so a nice drop of one can go for quite a bit.

GL!

jimr625

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

WoW

"Could you please provide some factual information to back that up? If not, then it's just your observation on your runs. For me, the smites drop 85% of the ecto I have received. I don't think you can really say one or the other drops more ecto. It seems to differ for players."

Easy Killer - Actually from Guildwiki it clearly states that the ecto drop rate for a smite is <2% and the ecto drop rate for an Aatax is 4%. Most people get their ecto drops from smites because in a typical run they kill about 10 times as many smites as they do Aatax. It's a simple number of kills thing.
If you have been running this build to get your ecto's the OF COURSE you are getting more ectos from the smites cause you don't kill the aatax. He made one statement and while I agree with the first part of your post just calm down and put this in perspective.

ricnavgo

ricnavgo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

BOD

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dahnel
ah yes all goes as planed , the revolution is soon to come muhahah...MUHAHAHA ...ahem uh uh ..er did i say that out loud ? Thanks Dahnel for the build. I'm a rich $$$ Rit. now!!!

Vengeful Rits FTW!!!

mad 55 monk

mad 55 monk

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

PERV

Rt/Me

Thanks Dahnel ! This is the best solo build iv ever seen !

ppl check my video - smite run in 9 mins 50 secs. Did lots of small mistakes - will make better video later.

http://tv.isg.si/site/ftpaccess/slly/9-50solosmites.avi

(XviD coded) 37 mb

lolwtf

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Dahnel,you're the man! Just thought I'd drop by and say thanks for this build!