RANGERS, whats the best BOW I can get on the market?

elLOCOmutha

elLOCOmutha

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Join Date: May 2005

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Hi im new to the ranger profession and was wondering what is the best bow I can buy for my ranger?

I use poisen arrows, hunters shot etc..

thank you for any help.

DeanBB

DeanBB

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Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

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The bow that best fits your build. Actually that should be "bows" as you'll want different ones for different builds or opponents.

Personally I prefer a flat bow and short bow combo when using either favorable winds and/or read the wind. That gives the fastest fire rate (2.0) and max range with the flat bow.

You'll probably end up with 4-6 bow at least with different mods on them (poison, physical, fiery, etc) depending on how many different builds you run, then perhaps long range and short range versions as well.

elLOCOmutha

elLOCOmutha

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So a short bow for fast fire rate and a flat bow for the best distance reaching bow?

Reikai

Reikai

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Join Date: Aug 2005

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there is no single "best" bow. If I had to choose one bow for the "All rounder" bow it would be the following:

Sundering Recurvebow of Fortitude
Piercing Dmg: 15-28 (Req. 9 marksmanship)
Damage +15% (While Health is Above 50%)
20% Armor Penetration (20% Chance)
Health +30

OR

Icy Recurvebow of Fortitude
Cold Dmg: 15-28 (Req. 9 marksmanship)
Damage +15% (While Health is Above 50%)
20% Armor Penetration (20% Chance)
Health +30

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The reason for this is:
The bow-type I defaut to is the Recurvebow, unless a specific situation is given.

Sundering or Ebon are the two "best" (IMO) non-specific, un-conditional mods.

I like +30 HP over +5 armor.

This bow can serve as the "all rounder" bow, and will get the job done *most* of the time. However, it is no where near what a specific bow can achieve in the correct situation.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

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recurve has fastest flight time... it is generally used for interupting because it has less chance to miss due to fast flight time... it also has a larger range than a short bow but all bows are balanced since it is so fast flight time it as a hefty 2.4sec recharge time... but its worth it if your arrows dont get dodged. Here are the bow stats http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bow.

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

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Quote:
Originally Posted by elLOCOmutha
So a short bow for fast fire rate and a flat bow for the best distance reaching bow?
Actually Longbows/Flatbows are best for distance reaching. Shortbows for fast fire/close range, their useful to finish off someone with a few quick hits. Hornbows for spiking since they have a 10% armor penetration bonus, and it's best to pack it with a Vampiric mod (5/1) for some extra spiking damage. Recurves are best for some key important shots, like interupting or when playing Cripshot.

Painbringer

Painbringer

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Join Date: Jun 2006

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Early in the game solo play PvE with henchies I would try for a Poisoners Mod +33% to poison duration this helps out a bit. After you start getting elite skills (Like Barrage) a bow of Sundering is a very helpful bow. If you have a hard time managing energy then zealous bow will help you out. If you want more damage vampiric helps out. Keep an eye open on the trade chat for green weapons. (Expect to pay a little more for them) Style of bow and how it looks is your preference faster shot verses distance (See Wiki for more info on all the different bows styles / Green Weapons).

elLOCOmutha

elLOCOmutha

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I ended up buying a composite bow. What bow can I get for fast attack now?

Am I correct here in my thinking?

Composite bow=long distance

recurve=fast fire rate

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by elLOCOmutha
I ended up buying a composite bow. What bow can I get for fast attack now?

Am I correct here in my thinking?

Composite bow=long distance

recurve=fast fire rate

Eh... bad news. Composite bow is the same as a recurve bow.

Here's a nifty list of the bow stuff:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bow

Here's my set of bows:

Fiery Shortbow of Shelter - Elemental Damage comes in handy sometimes, good with tiger's fury
Elswyth's recurve bow (5:1 vamp, +30 health) - My "general use" bow.
Vampiric shadow bow of defense (shadow bow = horn bow) - Spiking
Elswyth's longbow (33% poison, +30 health) - Any build using poison
Silencing recurve of fortitude - Any build using dazed
Ironwing Flatbow (zealous, +30 health) - Zealous is nifty at times, I use it for pet builds and quickshot builds mostly
Candycane bow - Just because

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

you need a following bow set:

1- long/flat/horn bow with Sundering with a +marksmanship bow grip (more damage and general use)
2- Recurve bow with Vampiric mode
3- Recurve bow with a Zealots mode
4- Long/Flat/Horn bow with poison mode
5- Any bow with elemental damage

rest of the bows (where i didnt specify grip) has to have a +armor or +hp grip
at least 1 bow should have a +20% to enchantments bow grip, for enchantmants builds. rest should be +hp or +defence.

im not a fan of short bows but alot of ppl are comfortable with them. just that i rather use a recurve bow instead

with this set you can run almost any build that you may want

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reikai
there is no single "best" bow. If I had to choose one bow for the "All rounder" bow it would be the following:

Sundering Recurvebow of Fortitude
Piercing Dmg: 15-28 (Req. 9 marksmanship)
Damage +15% (While Health is Above 50%)
20% Armor Penetration (20% Chance)
Health +30

OR

Icy Recurvebow of Fortitude
Cold Dmg: 15-28 (Req. 9 marksmanship)
Damage +15% (While Health is Above 50%)
20% Armor Penetration (20% Chance)
Health +30

----------
The reason for this is:
The bow-type I defaut to is the Recurvebow, unless a specific situation is given.

Sundering or Ebon are the two "best" (IMO) non-specific, un-conditional mods.

I like +30 HP over +5 armor.

This bow can serve as the "all rounder" bow, and will get the job done *most* of the time. However, it is no where near what a specific bow can achieve in the correct situation.
Strange this is what I have although mine is fiery not icey.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

Quote:
Originally Posted by Reikai
Icy Recurvebow of Fortitude
Cold Dmg: 15-28 (Req. 9 marksmanship)
Damage +15% (While Health is Above 50%)
20% Armor Penetration (20% Chance)
Health +30
how did you manage to put 2 diffrent bowstrings on one bow???...

LightningHell

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Actually, I would get Vampiric than Sundering, and get a switch weapon.

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

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Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
Eh... bad news. Composite bow is the same as a recurve bow.

Here's a nifty list of the bow stuff:

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Bow

Here's my set of bows:

Fiery Shortbow of Shelter - Elemental Damage comes in handy sometimes, good with tiger's fury
Elswyth's recurve bow (5:1 vamp, +30 health) - My "general use" bow.
Vampiric shadow bow of defense (shadow bow = horn bow) - Spiking
Elswyth's longbow (33% poison, +30 health) - Any build using poison
Silencing recurve of fortitude - Any build using dazed
Ironwing Flatbow (zealous, +30 health) - Zealous is nifty at times, I use it for pet builds and quickshot builds mostly
Candycane bow - Just because
Out of all the suggestions these seem the best.

Personally, my ranger has at 15^50 poisonous composite of defense as his general use bow. He's also packing a 13^50 longbow (random unimportant mods) for pulling and the like. I'd like to get him a +5 energy shortbow or half moon. I'd use that for any beast mastery build. Throw a zealous string on a half moon and it works great. Especially with Tiger's Fury.

My other ranger (I have two accounts so yes I have two rangers) is an R/E spike build so he uses a 15% Enchanted Shadow Bow and a 15^50 Recurve. The Shadow Bow for spiking, the Recurve for when I run interrupt.

So to recap:

15^50 Poisonous Composite Bow of Defense
13^50 Longbow of Something or Other
+5 Energy Zealous Shortbow of Defense/of Fortitude
15% Enchanted Fiery Shadow Bow (or Horn Bow) of Defense

Those are the bows I'd use. Good luck with your ranger. They're a lot of fun.

mtm

mtm

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Join Date: Mar 2006

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Don't listen to people who think sundering mod is the best and no matter what or where you play you should always have a sundering mod. The main purpose of a sundering mod is showing it to others.

Ristaron

Ristaron

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Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

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Sundering Ithas Bow of Fortitude

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

How Sundering 20/20 will affect to your bow damage:

Uphill or downhill bonuses/penalties not included.

Markmanship at 16

Bow 15-28 dmg, 15^50hp, sundering 20/20, customized 20%

Against 60 armor targets (usually monks, elementalists, necros, ritualists and mesmers):

No sundering (sundering 20/20):
min dmg ~23.29 (~26.75) -> difference +3.46 every 5th attack (+0.69 every attack)
max dmg ~43.47 (~49.93) -> difference +6.46 every 5th attack (+1.29 every attack)

Against 70 armor targets (usually assassins and rangers):

No sundering (sundering 20/20):
min dmg ~19.58 (~24.96) -> difference +5.38 every 5th attack (+1.08 every attack)
max dmg ~36.55 (~46.59) -> difference +10.04 every 5th attack (+2.01 every attack)

Against 100 armor vs physical targets (usually warriors):

No sundering (sundering 20/20):
min dmg ~11.65 (~16.47) -> difference +4.82 every 5th attack (+0.96 every attaack)
max dmg ~21.74 (~30.73) -> difference +8.99 every 5th attack (+1.80 every attack)

Note that this is theoretical situation. You might get it kick in more often or less often. It is all about the luck.

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

I think on GuildWiki it says that people consider Urgoz' Longbow to be the perfect bow. I don't know if people agree with this though. (I believe it's a perfect 15^50 20/20 +30hp longbow, correct me if I'm wrong).

Ehrenia

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Melted Chocolate Bunnies [EaT]

I assume this is mainly focussed on PvE but when you then to decide to take your ranger to PvP, this is what I have on mine:

Shortbow req9
15^50
Vampiric 5, Health +30
Uses: For when I need a fast fire rate and know I can be close to my target. (like if using choking gas, but I don't use it)
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Recurve Bow req9
15^50
Vampiric 5, Health +30
Uses: When I am interupting using attack skills (not preparations), and when I really can't afford to be missing my target, for example when using Crippling Shot. A +5 Recurve Bow is also good for Crippling Shot due to the high energy cost of spamming it, but personally I prefer 15% extra damage over 1 more cripple.
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Recurve Bow req9
15^50
Ebon, Health +30
Uses: Same as above, but I use this bow when I know my target has high armor vs physical and/or piercing.
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Hornbow req9
15^50
Vampiric 5, Health +30
Uses: When I need that extra bit of damage and can afford to be attacking slowly. I rarely use a Hornbow, but it is useful occasionally.
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Longbow req9
15^50
Sundering 20/20, Health +30
Uses: When I have to remain at a safe distance and my target is likely to be moving, I use sundering here since I am less likely to be hitting and I don't want an overall loss of life.
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Flatbow req9
15^50
Sundering 20/20, Health +30
Uses: Again when I have to remain at a safe distance. A flatbow is better vs a stationary target due to the long flight time and the large arc, the advantage being a faster refire rate than the longbow, so more damage.

Hope all that helps, assuming you turn to PvP

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

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Join Date: Dec 2005

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Personally I find longbows to be kinda crappy. Pulling with a flatbow works a bit better, you have an extra half second to run like crazy before your arrow hits and the mob charges you. Most targets will close to casting range with you pretty quickly. If you're hitting a target at longbow range for any period of time, it's most likely not moving so a flatbow is better. Longbows have so-so arrow speed and so-so refire. There really isn't anything they're the best at.

Oh, and sundering sucks.

lord catos

lord catos

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Join Date: Aug 2006

netherlands

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hey,
i'am a ranger. (eagle off avalon)
i have a good stormbow (longbow) i think its whan of the best.
i play a lot of Guild vs Guild and so. a ranger is very nice to ficht whit.
whit a good bow you dont win a ficht.
but rangers have a good build, (if your build is good you dont lose

good luke.

jimmy_logic

jimmy_logic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/

I personally use these bows that are on my main rotation.

Vampiric Recurve
Zealous Recurve
Shocking Longbow
Zealous Flatbow
Vampiric Flatbow
Urgoz Longbow
Vampiric Hornbow

They are used depending on my build. But mostly I use the Recurve bow build because it does alot of damage while have good interrupts. When I use Flatbows is when I have something to lower the arc on it I dont my arrows to miss.

GranDeWun

GranDeWun

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Recurve for interrupts - fastest arrows and re-fire on interrupts is constant.
Shortbow for general combat - fastest re-fire.
Longbow for pulling - has range > aggro circle.

the sly edge

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

[eoe] Edge of Extinction

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Well since your a posin ranger if u want the best i suggest the rotwing recovery bow
green bow gona cost your around 20k
but if u want the best posin bow in the game this is it
any more question get me in game (the sly edge)

My set up personally is rotwing recovry bow, long bow for pulling, Perfect 15^50 20/20 +30 health hammer for bunny humper, and a storm bow just for show

hope this helps ya

elLOCOmutha

elLOCOmutha

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Thanks for all the opinion/suggestions about BOWS everyone!

Instead of make a different thread i'm just going to ask another question here and hope someone can help me.

I am working on getting all the Luxon points on the map, I have these left.

1.Gyala Hatchery

2.Leviathin Pits

3.The Aurios Mines

4.Seafarer's Rest

5.Unwaking Waters (Luxon)

I am kinda stuck/lost because the only primary quest I have is "Befriending the Luxon's". How can I get each of these points on the map? I dont see any missions etc..

At what point on the map does the 15k armor for Luxon show up?

Thanks for any help, again!

Twinwhistle

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/W

You have to do Befriending the luxons to continue, so get that 10000 faction points. After this you will get quests that will bring you further into the game. And the 15k is in Leviathan Pits with armor crafter Mikolas.

elLOCOmutha

elLOCOmutha

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Thanks for all the help everyone!

BladeDVD

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Hawaii

Clan Of Elders

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twinwhistle
You have to do Befriending the luxons to continue, so get that 10000 faction points. After this you will get quests that will bring you further into the game. And the 15k is in Leviathan Pits with armor crafter Mikolas.
FYI, the Luxon side available quests won't get you to 10k faction like the Kurzick side will. If you can AB (Alliance Battle) that's the best. Otherwise you have to do the repeatable quests. I liked the arena battle you could do to the west of cavalon (I think that's where it was). You get 400faction every time you win. It's not a cake walk, but it only takes a few minutes to walk there and the fight is maybe 5 minutes long, so it's relatively fast vs. trying to do the other repeatable quests.

Good luck.

Sirkaze

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

London/Uk

The Lost Saracens

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I would never go with a sundering weapon....I would go for a Zealous upgrade more than anything, but depends on what you do, just dont go for sundering.