Need To Be 18 Years Old!

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxage
I have my account in my name and I am not 18 years old Does this mean that my account could be in danger? I am worried because I have virtually all unlocks and have a couple PvE characters that have beaten both games I would hate to see this all destroyed.
the 18 part is for credit card purchases from them and does not affect a retail account bought from a store.

milias

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
the 18 part is for credit card purchases from them and does not affect a retail account bought from a store.
Keep in mind, though, that since the game is rated Teen, you do have to be 13 or older in order to play.

The Pointless

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

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To be honest the T rating (PEGI 12+ in Europe) means nothing in my opinion.

It doesn't take into account the actions of other players. For example, although swearing is against the rules there is always some immature little brat who thinks "u ****in ghey n00b" or comments of a lewd/perverted nature is forever called for. On top of that there are also other dangers which I won't go into (to try and keep within the rules of this forum). Hence this clause in the GW EULA

milias

milias

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pointless
Hence this clause in the GW EULA
It could be, but in my opinion, it's probably more due to the mature nature of the game itself. ANet cannot really control, nor is it expected to control, the behavior of people in-game. The fact that they actually do shows due diligence on their part. I think the Teen rating has more to do with the ale-drinking, 15k-druid's-clad, pole-dancing female ranger than anything else

Zinger314

Zinger314

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Join Date: May 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by milias
It could be, but in my opinion, it's probably more due to the mature nature of the game itself. ANet cannot really control, nor is it expected to control, the behavior of people in-game. The fact that they actually do shows due diligence on their part. I think the Teen rating has more to do with the ale-drinking, 15k-druid's-clad, pole-dancing female ranger than anything else
There's a law that states that it's illegal to collect information on children under 13 years old.

Of course, it isn't enforced. Otherwise, the internet would die out.

milias

milias

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Defected back to America

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
There's a law that states that it's illegal to collect information on children under 13 years old.
Is there really? I haven't heard of that one. Is that in the US or somewhere else or is it universal?

And does ANet actually collect information on you?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by milias
Is there really? I haven't heard of that one. Is that in the US or somewhere else or is it universal?

And does ANet actually collect information on you?
US only, probably. Europeans are weirdos.

If someone sends in to support a screenshot where you say "im 10", then ArenaNet could theoetically ban you.

This practice is quite common on kid-oriented sites like MySpace and Neopets.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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COPPA Laws
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COPPA

Used all over the internet, especially when signing up for message boards.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

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Yes, the Age Laws are there....but whether you follow them is a "trust" thing..

Like when you sign up for a forum like this one...How easy is it just to tap the option that says your over 13...They have NO WAY of enforcing it - its more of a liability thing (if it does come out that the kid is under 13, the forum can say "we were told it his over 13...Cant touch us").

Same thing with the 18 or over clause in the Agreement. Like if you go into the store and steal your moms credit card to buy a Character slot, and your mom trys to sue Anet for letting a kid use the credit card, they can say "Hey, you cant touch us, by making an account they agreed that they were over 18 and able to enter into contracts like that"

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

well, i agree with that rule.

1- character drunk = results as a drunk 12 year old
2- wammos humping eles = teenagers "harrassing" girls at schools
3- someone cursing and insuling from behind screen= a beaten up teenager who forgot that hes not Unonimus and invincible

i wont even start with exposure to cursing and violence...

you all might think its all BS but all thos elittle think "print" themselves on a "virgin" mind of a 10 year old and effect his behavioir in future

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

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When I /dance on guildwars, I don't get the urge to go and hump the leg of the nearest female. Neither do most sane individuals.

Plus, if under 18s weren't allowed accounts, Guild Wars' primary audience of sweaty adolescents like myself would be gone and they would lose sales.

Nero

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Sunset Riders [Ride]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggard
When I /dance on guildwars, I don't get the urge to go and hump the leg of the nearest female. Neither do most sane individuals.

Plus, if under 18s weren't allowed accounts, Guild Wars' primary audience of sweaty adolescents like myself would be gone and they would lose sales.

lmao

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

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One other thing about the 18 year old clause. I don't believe that people under that age can legally agree to contracts, and thats what an EULA is.

eternal pho

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Licious Fame Farmers {TLG}

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And yet there are children under 13 playing this game. >.>

Ristaron

Ristaron

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Canada, eh?

Legion Of Valhalla

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Maria The Princess
3- someone cursing and insuling from behind screen= a beaten up teenager who forgot that hes not Unonimus and invincible

i wont even start with exposure to cursing and violence...
GTA made me do it!

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

^lol im not saying all of the 15 year olds will turn out monsters because of GW community, but alot of kids are easily influenced by stuff like this

Nexium

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

hmm game is from 12+ in erupe wierd it's for 13+ in US
America and their censurs:P

Marty Silverblade

Marty Silverblade

Administrator

Join Date: Jun 2006

I doubt that you're gonna get banned for not being over 18. Anyway, if you have even a little bit of supervision or anything like that I doubt Anet would take action. Besides, don't tell anyone and they won't know

shadow39365

shadow39365

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

England

Angels Symphonys [AnSy]

Anet can't collect information from you, at the end of the day your someone behind a computer screen, you could be a 27 year old lady called Eva or you could be a 47 year old trucker called Barry, you keep as private as you want to be, at the end of the day no-one is going to know anything about you without you telling them.

GW is easily suitable for the younger children, you can have a very picky chat filter on to protect the innocent. By younger children i am not referring to allowing 6 year olds to play it but i mean sort of around 10+ or whatever.

The Pointless

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

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It's a shame half the brats don't seem to get it that adults play videogames too. Almost every time I point out that I'm 21 (usually when somebody accuses me of being a kid) there's always some moron who shouldn't have the right to use a computer shouts "PEADO!" in local. Depressing.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

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whatever the age requirement is, kids will still be able to play this game no matter what the rating is on the game!

elLOCOmutha

elLOCOmutha

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Join Date: May 2005

Ascalon City, Tyria

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Parents need to start communicating/teaching and raising there kids. Don't blame video games or anything else on bad parenting practices. Its up to the parents to raise and teach there kids.

Its easy to point the finger but when it all boils down to it, legally, parents are responsible.

The Pointless

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

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Valid point. Don't blame games, TV, or any other forms of media if you're too useless a parent to point out what's right or wrong.

That shouldn't need explaining in the first place...

Stupid Shizno

Stupid Shizno

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Madison, Wisconsin, USA

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in all honestly, that is becomming grey to the society. back when you were growing up (im saying if your 20+ in years) your parents didnt really have this kind of easy access to online/pc gaming. they might have grown up with no electronic gaming at all really, so that statement is true.

but think if your a parent now, as i will be within the next year, i still play games. i still will play GTA when it comes out. why? because i grew up with the games. i wont let my child see/hear/watch/play games like GTA. but i see no harm with having a 10-12 year old play games like guildwars, or final fantesy. why? it teaches a lot more then "heres a magical blue sword, now go wack something", it teaches multi-tasking, it teaches basic fundelmentals parents cant. you cant teach a child to think, the child must learn to use his brain on his own, problemsolve everything. games like GW and other rpg games teach the player to problem solve, "why is this magical blue sword better then this silver dull sword?" is what kids will say. its the parents responcibility to censer what game the child should, or should not play.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

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Quote:
Originally Posted by dargon
One other thing about the 18 year old clause. I don't believe that people under that age can legally agree to contracts, and thats what an EULA is.
Just a quick clarification. The EULA is not a contract, technically you are not bound to anything written within there, as clicking "OK" is not a legally binding measure (yet.) So far, only signatures work.

What the EULA is, if nothing else, is a Cover Your Ass document with a decent ability to dumbfound lower courts and officials, as well as customers, into believing what is written is actually binding.

Beyond that, I return you to your regularlly scheduled thread!