Tired of Farming for Gold?

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Why not add a bit of excitement into the economy and a investment system. I would rather invest and maintain my portfolio than farm ^_^ ... because farming soon turns into a grind. It should be fairly easy to implement you can base the investments on already existant prices like rare meterials, or you can create a random stock economy that allows you to strike it rich or go broke trying. I think its a cool idea..

I saw a few threads about it dating far back as June of 2005 and even a thread in march before factions release, hoping for a stock market. Its a really cool idea that will get me back into the pve aspect of the game... you could make it more elaborate where you can get stocks by doing some difficult quest. I think its a very innovative concept that is fairly easy to implement. Instead of the annoying ectos you can go an a limb and trade stock for items.. ^_^.. i want to hear opinions... critizisms are welcome

Scavenger Rage

Scavenger Rage

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2006

Brazil

dTe - Do The Evolution

N/Mo

Yes, i am tired of farming.

No, i do not like your idea.

/notsigned

Lets keep trying to achieve new solutions to farm, but not this one.

Latter.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

why though... does a little thrill in investing not interesting you at all?

actionjack

actionjack

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Oct 2005

Kali

W/E

Since there are no really any company or stock in the game world, it would just turn out as one big casino, which could get people excited about trying to hook young kind into gambling.

But you could speculate and try to make money that way, such as buy-low sell-high on the rere items, or as one guy did in one thread, where he bought bunch of steel before faction comes out, and sell it at higher price when people start getting the faction armors.

Ususually you make profit from the inperfertness of suppy and demand. If you can score to what demand people have, than you can earn big.

/notsigned on stockmarket
But I would introduce a material market... more on that later....

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

we could do the thing with animal crossing...they have a thing called the Stalk Market ;D

You buy turnips on sunday. throughout the week, you can sell it but prices change daily....if you dont sell by the next sunday, they rot.

so you have to learn how to wait for a price thats higher than when you bought it. XD

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

i do this kind of thing in real life...thanks but no thanks

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

Quote:
Tired of Farming Gold?
YES!

But, I'm afriad I don't like your idea. /notsigned I'd rather another way to make gold be added(Gold awards for PvP and auction House)

However, If you want to make money without farming just buy and sell ectos and shards. When there down low buy alot of them. When there up high sell them all.

Brother Gilburt

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

that kind of trading (ecto) is only really profitable at the larger end of the scale

ie.. buying 1mill ecto @ 6k then selling for 8.5k, anything smaller isnt worth the hassle + ecto market isnt the most stable and prices can go down aswell as up

ecto trading is best left to those with "extra" funds just incase things go bad.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Interest Rates for you Vault sort of like Bank.

Skyy High

Skyy High

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2006

R/

The game has an infinite gold supply, as players effectively make their own money whenever they go outside. I really don't think any standard economics model could predict how this "stock market" would behave...personally, I think it would crash miserably and often, as thousands of players all try to dump millions of gold into the system at once...
Honestly, way too risky. I'd prefer if ANet just added casinos and called them such. The dragon festival games were a step in the right direction...but something involving just a wee bit more skill would be nice.

Also: speculating on materials, items, etc is definitely possible in this game, and you can be quite the power trader by doing that.

Last thing...that "Stalk Market" thing...sounded really creepy the first time I read it. Like you were auctioning people to get stalked or something.

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

you dont need excessive amounts of gold. you dont neeeeed to farm to play the game. so wheres the gold crisis again? did i miss something? or is this just another one of those topics....

no signed?

bye

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

Guild Wars into Share Wars?

/notsigned

Fearful Bab3

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Ball of Solid Steel [boSs]

Mo/W

/Notsigned

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

I have a counter-solution. How about in-game lottery? I know, I know, we already have chests... But seriously, just have an NPC where you can buy 'lottery tickets'. Have a certain date/time (in-game time, perhaps) when the drawing takes place, and the lucky player gets the Jackpot (equivalent to the total from ticket prices).

E T E R N A L

E T E R N A L

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2005

in a cherry

-i unno-

E/Mo

umm.....lol.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

this is a game not real life...remember that

Dako Changed

Dako Changed

Guest

Join Date: Jul 2006

Palmer, Alaska

E/R

I like it...

/signed

Poison Ivy

Poison Ivy

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Toronto

Hopping

Mo/A

I like this idea a lot, but it will not achive the goal your shooting for.

But then again, it does fit the Skill>Grind quote of GW, so it could be considered

/halfsigned

brute blake

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

NSW, Australia

International Moa Society [Moa]

E/

I like the idea but the first thing i would have done was invested in Sup Absorb before Faction well we all know what happened to them

Also i think people play this game to kinda get away from reality and this is a huge jump into reality

/Notsigned

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

You could sell you faction for amber or jade and then sell that for gold.

Curse You

Curse You

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Pole

The Magus Order

N/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by arcanemacabre
I have a counter-solution. How about in-game lottery? I know, I know, we already have chests... But seriously, just have an NPC where you can buy 'lottery tickets'. Have a certain date/time (in-game time, perhaps) when the drawing takes place, and the lucky player gets the Jackpot (equivalent to the total from ticket prices).
This seems interesting, and kind of fun, espesially if tickets cost only 500g or something. (money sink yay!)

Until then, I'll just watch Trolls kill themselves by attacking my warrior.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Age
You could sell you faction for amber or jade and then sell that for gold.
im not gonna lie so ill say this frankly... i'd rather watch grass grow than PvE PvP in alliance battles... if it was a 5v5v5 it would make for some new interesting 5man builds but o well... they had to take the 4man RA/TA idea..

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Curse You
This seems interesting, and kind of fun, espesially if tickets cost only 500g or something. (money sink yay!)

Until then, I'll just watch Trolls kill themselves by attacking my warrior.
lottery is a rip off of linage and it sucks the game and the system...

/ubernotsigned for lottery system

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
lottery is a rip off of linage and it sucks the game and the system...

/ubernotsigned for lottery system
Good lord! I had no idea they had something like that in Lineage! I have never played that game, only seen screenshots (which completely uninterested me with it's anime-ish style). I'm not sure whether to feel privelaged that my idea's been used, or depressed because it's been used in that game.

Since you seem to know that it (the system) sucks, mind telling me why it sucks? Is it abused? Is it the way it's incorporated? Is it just the randomness of who gets rich quick? Seriously, I'd like to know. Cause in my eyes, something like a lottery system could be a fun addition. Besides, GW had the festival games, which essentially is the same thing, just a little more active and with MUCH less payout.

bilateralrope

bilateralrope

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Zealand

Xen Of Onslaught (Xen of the Pacific division)

Quote:
Originally Posted by llsektorll
why though... does a little thrill in investing not interesting you at all?
Investing in what ?

It can't be anything any of the trader NPCs, because they already provide you with the option to invenst in them and people do when they can predict an upwards shift in the prices (next predictable one will be nightfall release).

I'm going to need more specifics about how it will work before I decide if its a good idea or not.

Senator Tom

Senator Tom

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2005

California

[Dark]

W/

Solution without implementing a stock market: Go broke on Rubies and Sapphires and sell them if and when they rocket in price.

Or you can buy ectos low, and sell them high. The prices fluxuate pretty frequently between 6/6.5 - 7/7.5.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Tom
Solution without implementing a stock market: Go broke on Rubies and Sapphires and sell them if and when they rocket in price.

Or you can buy ectos low, and sell them high. The prices fluxuate pretty frequently between 6/6.5 - 7/7.5.
it is a good idea but the prices aren't dynamic enough for active traders... it usually hangs around and it eventually comes down to selling it to someone for a higher price than you bought it for. If the prices were less static it would be the better alternative.