Strength?

Timore

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Windsor/Ontario

The Intervention Of Fire

W/Mo

Do i really need it. Non of my skill use it and dont notice much of a diff with it. Should and have any point no str?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

You dont 'need' strength. The average warrior has 8-10 points in it, but some have as little as 5. Every rank in str gives 1% AP. Doesnt always make the biggest difference, but its sometimes nice.

JR

JR

Re:tired

Join Date: Nov 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
You dont 'need' strength. The average warrior has 8-10 points in it, but some have as little as 5. Every rank in str gives 1% AP. Doesnt always make the biggest difference, but its sometimes nice. 1% AP on attack skills only. It's largely garbage that you spec into if there's nothing else you need.

Rancour

Rancour

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Camp Rancor (Rancour :D)

I'm a free spirit (that's not what the guild is called, I just am)

W/R

I agree with JR-

You don't make a primary warrior for the Strength attribute; it only really works against high-armored enemies and it's not really that much.

My warrior has 13 Strength, but only to use Sentinel's armor and because he needs something to fuel Flourish; awesome skill when you're using daggers.

SparhawkJC

SparhawkJC

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Amazon Basin

R/Me

It's nice because it powers Dolyak Signet, the solo farmer's best friend. That being said I run it at 10 (9+1) most of the time, and at 13(12+1) only when stance tanking.

llsektorll

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

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depends on what you are doing i guess.. in pvp sometimes the armor peneration and sprint/rush duration does come in handy but you can do without it like thumpers... if you want run it with strength this spread might be good.. 9+1 strenght 12+1+1 axe/sword/hammer mastery 9+1 tactics. It really depends on what you are doing.. if you are gonna fight armor mobs in pve then its a good idea to take it, but if you'd rather but some into healing prayers for mending >.< then i guess its not too bad if u take it away from strength.

Timore

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Windsor/Ontario

The Intervention Of Fire

W/Mo

SO IT ok for me to run 4+1 str?

DeanBB

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

No, it is not allowed, sorry, wimpy weak warriors are just not allowed!

You can do whatever you want, it is your game and your character. Without any strength-based skills in use and without Sentinel's armor there is no compelling reason to put more than the left-over points in it.

Timore

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Windsor/Ontario

The Intervention Of Fire

W/Mo

kk thanks guys

Align

Align

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Protectors of Awesome[AWE]

W/

Weapon mastery for damage, tactics for healing.
Only have like 5 points left for strength.

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

Unless you're not intent on doing any damage with your weapon [less than 16 weapon, no LESS than 14 weapon], then there's not much point...

I run 16 weapon on my warrior about 80% of the time. Only time I don't is with the Sorrow's Furnace soloing build, I run 14 tactics, 12 sword, 11 strength...

yeah, strength is only good for Dolyak Signet or Strength Signet [the fact you can use Str. Sig. 2x back to back is NASTY for dmg buildup, just cast it at the beginning of the mission....]

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

Unless you're not intent on doing any damage with your weapon [less than 16 weapon, no LESS than 14 weapon], then there's not much point...

I run 16 weapon on my warrior about 80% of the time. Only time I don't is with the Sorrow's Furnace soloing build, I run 14 tactics, 12 sword, 11 strength...

yeah, strength is only good for Dolyak Signet or Strength Signet [the fact you can use Str. Sig. 2x back to back is NASTY for dmg buildup, just cast it at the beginning of the mission....]

kanuks

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

The only reason to put points in an attributes that u dont use any skills is to wear a given item.

For exemple, a warrior that uses healing prayers and swordsmanship skills only may want to pump his str or tact to 9 in order to wear a shield.

y3ll0w

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Sugar Land

Free Fame For [Us]

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yeah, but i run 10 strength ONLY because i always bring stuff like... dolyak, sprint and some other strength stuff. if i dont use a str skill then i spread my attrb in my what i need first then use the leftovers in str.

hope this helps.

Tingi

Tingi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mo/

Yea, I usually only use my leftover points in strength - about 5 or 6. But when I'm running/farming it's always more. Strength as a Primary attribute (not including skill usage) is by far the worst attribute in the game. They should've made it so that for every point in Strength you would have 1% of getting double adrenaline when attacking as well as the crit hits.

Rien Von Prios

Rien Von Prios

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Netherlands

Cruento Et Letum (CEL)

W/Mo

Overall my strength is pretty high, but i use my warrior most for farming.
Then it's very handy to have 13 in strength.

And if you're farming foes using only melee attacks, go as a W/E with some points in earth magic, with Silver armor and some in Tactics, with Glad's defense, and alot in Strength for doly.

Watch and see them killing themself.

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Typical uses:
- Meet shield req.
- Dolyak signet
- Sprint/rush

Hamologist

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Aug 2006

MrT

W/

OK the way I see it is that str like most all primary skill isnt all that important.
The reason i say that is because if u happen to use str for ur build well great it wont make that much of a difference in ur damage though. Its ben like this with most all proffesions. Assasins having critical strike doesnt make a huge difference. Mesmers having fast casting just makes spells recharge A BIT faster, and so on.

So all im trying to say is if u have some spare points then go ahead and throw them in str other wise it wont make a huge difference.

p.s. look on the bright side though as a warrior u have the best armour of all the proffesions, well against damage that is.

skreet preacha

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

DDC

W/Mo

hold on though, then why does the description of Strength say it has 1% armor penetration for each point of strength while us "attack skills", which sounds like it means any attack skills like Galrath slash, etc?

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by skreet preacha
hold on though, then why does the description of Strength say it has 1% armor penetration for each point of strength while us "attack skills", which sounds like it means any attack skills like Galrath slash, etc? Um.

Because it gives you 1% armor penetration per point of strength while using attack skills, like Galrath Slash..?

sgtclarity

sgtclarity

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

I Can Break These C[uffs]

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I like healthy strength in my builds.
I always run rush in pvp along iwth frenzy and sometimes protector's strike or bull's strike. Yeah the bonus isn't that good, but some of the skills are too good to pass up.

Timore

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Windsor/Ontario

The Intervention Of Fire

W/Mo

well thanks every one for your tips and i dont run str much at all.

Darkgift Risen

Darkgift Risen

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

NB mass

Dark Blood Acolytes

N/Me

str is great when ur using an axe build to spike soft targets...triple..penatrating blow/chop..executioners..plus str sig and 16 in axe = great damge using attack skills...love to see a monks health drop to low teens with that spike...str is good for certain builds..lets not forget about warriors endurance (e)..i find alot of uses for str...have 2 warriors..first is a tactics tank...other is a str spiker...

skreet preacha

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

DDC

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by ubermancer
Um.

Because it gives you 1% armor penetration per point of strength while using attack skills, like Galrath Slash..?
i originally asked becuz the first few posts acted as if attributes in strength only helped out strength skills, but i guess thats not true, since it says it has AP for "attack skills". ty for backin me up though, lol. :-)

Skuld

Skuld

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Thousend Tigers Apund Ur Head [Ttgr]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkgift Risen
str is great when ur using an axe build to spike soft targets...triple..penatrating blow/chop..executioners..plus str sig and 16 in axe = great damge using attack skills...love to see a monks health drop to low teens with that spike...str is good for certain builds..lets not forget about warriors endurance (e)..i find alot of uses for str...have 2 warriors..first is a tactics tank...other is a str spiker... Try using your axe skills without strength and see if there is a lot of difference.

frojack

frojack

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

London, UK

Rite Of Passage [RP]

E/Mo

The only use I have ever had for Strength is when I feel like constantly spamming energy attack skills while under Warrior's Endurance and a using zealous weapon. Also when I occasionally use Tiger Stance. Battle Rage is fun every now and then, but not for anything serious.

That's about it I'm afraid...

Yukito Kunisaki

Yukito Kunisaki

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

Chicago, IL

W/N

There once was a time, long ago, during Beta Weekends most likely, when having a TON of strength was good...

Anyone remember when every point in str. added 2% TO EVERY SWING YOU DID?

ah those were the good old days...

Kuja

Kuja

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

MA

Kame

Mo/W

Run 16 wep and 4-5 in strength leaves you a whole other 12 for another line