If ur doing the quest
Luxary Goods, the one were u get the mirrors and give them to homeless canthans.
It says they came from Elona.. and they called Elonian Mirrors , i thot everyone should no this.
Name of New continent was in factions=)
brokenmonkey
Horseman Of War
they also made references toward elona in prophecies too- around the time you ascend if im not mistaken...
lyra_song
Elona reach...The elonians help you ascend...
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brokenmonkey
Lyra, i dont think Anet had set up a storyline for ch3 when ch1 was done maby they did i dont think so
so i guess maby they just had them there cus it was a option
so i guess maby they just had them there cus it was a option
Synxernal
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Lyra, i dont think Anet had set up a storyline for ch3 when ch1 was done maby they did i dont think so
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johan the destroyer
They could have based the storyline of chapter 3 around something in chapter one (Namely Elona reach and the Elonians trying to ascend). I mean, Elona is supposed to be right next to the crystal desert..so there could very well be a connection there.
I Shot Kennedy
It's possible that they've based this story off chapter one, remember it's been worked on since chapter one was finished by the second half team. Not to mention it's supposed to wrap up the scepter storyline or so I read in some article I cant find right now.
WhiteZombie
the crystal desert is a part of elona, as said by the scribe at the dragon festival on the final days. evidence?
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7...iaelonaoi0.jpg
like a glove ;P
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7...iaelonaoi0.jpg
like a glove ;P
chessyang
was that a SS from Leipzig? or rather a photo?
SirJackassIII
Leipzig, but I doubt it's that simple.
They tried to add a piece of Cantha below the CD as well before Factions was released, it also fitted like a glove. And by the size it is now, Elona would be about as big as post-Sering Ascalon and the Northern Shiverpeaks, + the island, which would be really, really small for a PvE focused chapter, so I'd say the scale from the Elona pic is off...
They tried to add a piece of Cantha below the CD as well before Factions was released, it also fitted like a glove. And by the size it is now, Elona would be about as big as post-Sering Ascalon and the Northern Shiverpeaks, + the island, which would be really, really small for a PvE focused chapter, so I'd say the scale from the Elona pic is off...
Omega X
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Leipzig, but I doubt it's that simple.
They tried to add a piece of Cantha below the CD as well before Factions was released, it also fitted like a glove. And by the size it is now, Elona would be about as big as post-Sering Ascalon and the Northern Shiverpeaks, + the island, which would be really, really small for a PvE focused chapter, so I'd say the scale from the Elona pic is off... |
HawkofStorms
No there isn't. The elona's in the desert were said to come there after some sort of exodus or journey there in order to ascend. Never in Phrophecies have they said that the desert is next to Elonia. If Elona is right next to the cyrstal desert, I doubt they'd have called it that.
Also, the Paragon has been described as the guardian of the Elonian People in official press releases/a.nets website, so Elonia is obviously the location of the next chapter (when people were predicting Cantha a year ago people were sceptics about that too).
Also, the Paragon has been described as the guardian of the Elonian People in official press releases/a.nets website, so Elonia is obviously the location of the next chapter (when people were predicting Cantha a year ago people were sceptics about that too).
CHUIU
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They tried to add a piece of Cantha below the CD as well before Factions was released, it also fitted like a glove.
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GloryFox
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Posted by brokenmonkey Lyra, i dont think Anet had set up a storyline for ch3 when ch1 was done maby they did i dont think so |
This is where I think you are so very very wrong; can you say ToPK invasion and the Massive Tentacles; extruding from the ground, or how about the story behind Elona Reach with the Three Groups not agreeing. How about the quest in the Underworld and the awakening of the old taint that is Dhaaum the former god of Death and Destruction.
There were plenty of warnings and glimpses on the Chapter 3 story, only we did not notice them. They were apart of the bigger GW story all along.
Plushie Penguin
Then we might as well start looking for hints on chapter four in cantha[since that was linked very little to elona compaired to tyria, and it'll be the same team]
maybe we'll find out where the luxons ship their jade to[and maybe the kurzick's amber, if they sell that to other nations as well]
maybe we'll find out where the luxons ship their jade to[and maybe the kurzick's amber, if they sell that to other nations as well]
WhiteZombie
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Leipzig, but I doubt it's that simple.
They tried to add a piece of Cantha below the CD as well before Factions was released, it also fitted like a glove. And by the size it is now, Elona would be about as big as post-Sering Ascalon and the Northern Shiverpeaks, + the island, which would be really, really small for a PvE focused chapter, so I'd say the scale from the Elona pic is off... |
one thing that this theory has over cantha in any way being connected is that cantha was always known to be a continent far south, wheras elona has had a piece of fluff in-game (albeit only over the dragon festival) stating in fact that the crystal desert is a PART of elona. i wish i could turn back time and take a screenie of the scribe to prove it, but unfortunately the scribe is long gone with the dragon festival.
Angel Netherborn
Yes, I remember that too. Elona has been mentioned as being next to the Crystal Desert. And saying that Prophecies mentioned Elonians travelling to Crystal Desert is indicative that Elona is not connected to Tyria is pretty weak. That's like suggesting these desert people can't travel across a desert... Also, regarding scale... did you guys notice that Cantha is smaller as well? There was an interview where someone mentioned they wanted to keep the scale smaller so there's more to do in each area rather than large tracts of generic areas where you visit only because you wanted the explorer title.
And saying Cantha is next to Tyria is wrong. Several places in the game already mentions that Cantha is a separate continent, and only sea travel is possible (or magic map travel ^-^).
As for chapter 4, that's a bit vague. There's not much hooks in Cantha that references chapter 4, except maybe the origins of the Luxon people (their origins were a mystery according to the Historian iirc). Maybe the Luxons and the Margonites in the Crystal Desert had a link? Maybe a seafaring campaign for the fourth chapter?
And saying Cantha is next to Tyria is wrong. Several places in the game already mentions that Cantha is a separate continent, and only sea travel is possible (or magic map travel ^-^).
As for chapter 4, that's a bit vague. There's not much hooks in Cantha that references chapter 4, except maybe the origins of the Luxon people (their origins were a mystery according to the Historian iirc). Maybe the Luxons and the Margonites in the Crystal Desert had a link? Maybe a seafaring campaign for the fourth chapter?
brokenmonkey
hmm wow nice guys nice, that Elona map loooks soo cool =D
Nanood
i was looking at the new map piece and thought WOW ! Look at all that area.. Then I looked at tyria and noticed how small the actual explorable areas are compared to the size of the map. i wonder Just how much of that new map will be open to us.
Vermilion Okeanos
According to what the dev once said, there are 2 teams of dev, and each work on 1 chapter for a year.
So if chapter1 was done, they should be working on chapter 3... while chapter 2 was done, they work on chapter 4.
Could this mean that each team will try to complete their own continent parts? So, chapter 4 would have more part of Cantha continent to the south (with a different name)?
So if chapter1 was done, they should be working on chapter 3... while chapter 2 was done, they work on chapter 4.
Could this mean that each team will try to complete their own continent parts? So, chapter 4 would have more part of Cantha continent to the south (with a different name)?
arcanemacabre
I dunno, guys. I think the scale is correct. Look at the size of the boat, that's about right. That is, if this is a zoomed out version of the map. If it's zoomed in, well, it could be pretty fricken big!
Raziel665
Come on, sure, the scale is sure to be off, but you cant ignore the coastline? It may not fit, but the connection is right there.
NinjaKai
The cost line does fit. The art of the maps is just different.
Omega X
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No there isn't. The elona's in the desert were said to come there after some sort of exodus or journey there in order to ascend. Never in Phrophecies have they said that the desert is next to Elonia. If Elona is right next to the cyrstal desert, I doubt they'd have called it that.
Also, the Paragon has been described as the guardian of the Elonian People in official press releases/a.nets website, so Elonia is obviously the location of the next chapter (when people were predicting Cantha a year ago people were sceptics about that too). |
http://www.guildwars.com/community/t...ibe-060803.php
EagleEye33
It probably is linked, I assume there will be ebough chapters to create an big world. Elona can be linked to tyria (Europe and asia are :P). also I dont think Cantha was suppose to be in relation as elona is looking like. that's why we take a boat to get back and forth.
pixel.summoner
We'll soon find out and let much of this rest. 
Only fruit worth enjoying out of this thread is musing over that map screenshot. It does raise the curiousity and interest.
Only fruit worth enjoying out of this thread is musing over that map screenshot. It does raise the curiousity and interest.
Mordakai
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It probably is linked, I assume there will be ebough chapters to create an big world. Elona can be linked to tyria (Europe and asia are :P). also I dont think Cantha was suppose to be in relation as elona is looking like. that's why we take a boat to get back and forth.
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But, that doesn't mean it's not connected, after all, we took a "boat" (cinematic) when leaving Kryta to get to the Crystal Desert in Prophecy...
Omega X
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Well, there's a boat in the Elona map shown, so it looks like we'll be taking a boat to Elona.
But, that doesn't mean it's not connected, after all, we took a "boat" (cinematic) when leaving Kryta to get to the Crystal Desert in Prophecy... |
IT also wouldn't be wise to plop new Prophecies players at the end of the game, so the Boat is the only wise option.
In the future, they might merge the areas. But it seems that it won't be done in Chapter 3. And I don't expect it to be done in Chapter 4 either.
Nevin
Eh... I see another "shing jea island" damn you anet and taking this approach. I better not have to rush my character to 20.. AGAIN.
HawkofStorms
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So hard to keep track of all the "expanded universe" GW info.
Sir fredman
well you see at the bottom of the elona map it say.."You are currently in Monolith"
Zamiel
man i finally have a use for my world history class! the three areas of elona are just like three major areas in the ancient middle east. the Island of Istan is amazingly similar to Fertile Crescent area of the middle east with its ancient statues and monuments. the region of the paragons is just like the antolian peninsula due to the mountainous area both regions have and both have many natural resources. the dervish region is obviously egypt due to its large army, it being a desert, and its one life giving river (i would bet anything that the region will be called "the gift of the elon" at least once in the game).
o and HawkOfStorms an exodus doesnt necisarilly have to be a great far journey the hebrews had an exodus that went from egypt to canaan which was only like 500 miles.
o and HawkOfStorms an exodus doesnt necisarilly have to be a great far journey the hebrews had an exodus that went from egypt to canaan which was only like 500 miles.
Rathcail
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Hmm... interesting. Ty very much.
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Brother Chamberlain
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WE take a boat there because of the flawed map system. There is no path from Elona to Tyria. So they slap an icon on the board that opens up a dialog that has links to new areas, like a link to new web site in a browser.
IT also wouldn't be wise to plop new Prophecies players at the end of the game, so the Boat is the only wise option. In the future, they might merge the areas. But it seems that it won't be done in Chapter 3. And I don't expect it to be done in Chapter 4 either. |
Here comes the part where i drool, in the Anmoon Oasis, there is a door/gate/portal very similar to the Lions Arch door, perhaps this will be the way Elonians will access Tyria. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe I'm right, if im right, w00t! i am teh uber
makosi
*Brainwave*. Should we hoard Elonain Leather Squares?
Sorry if that's off-topic but profit dominates my mind.
Sorry if that's off-topic but profit dominates my mind.
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You know, I think there's a good chance Elona and Tyria actually ARE connected. In Lions Arch, theres the door only accesible as for Canthans arriving for the first time to Tyria, and cannot be acsessed any other way.
Here comes the part where i drool, in the Anmoon Oasis, there is a door/gate/portal very similar to the Lions Arch door, perhaps this will be the way Elonians will access Tyria. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe I'm right, if im right, w00t! i am teh uber |
BUT it would not be wise to connect the two like you suggested without some special tie in.
Having Elonian characters come to Tyria through the Crystal Desert blindly will plop them at the end of the game in Chapter 1. There would have to be an alternate route to Ascalon or Kryta through it.
Since ANET vowed "No New Content for Past Chapters", this will be even more unlikely.
Rathcail
That gate in Amnoon used to take you to the arena there, if I'm not mistaken.
Matix411
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Lyra, i dont think Anet had set up a storyline for ch3 when ch1 was done maby they did i dont think so
so i guess maby they just had them there cus it was a option |
It's hard to say.
But honestly, at the rate they are producing these games, I think they've had some idea of where they were going to go with them all from the start. Maybe not necessarily characters and the like, but to render an entire world, again, with new characters, new storyline, 300 new skills with new animations, it seems like it would take a lot longer than 6 months. At least a year.
Whether that is incorrect or not, it's my assumption.
The hints they give in each game, of the other games, just seems more intended than they do mere coincidence.
I think if anything the writers made the storyline from the start and, they're progressing with the games like the story progresses in itself.
Sort of like basing a series of movies off a series of novels I guess. I dunno.
The clues are just too obvious for it to be coincidence, I think so at least.
But then, as someone said, they could simply be basing the other games off certain aspects of the previous games rather than the lore/story as a whole itself. So someone could have simply been like, "So hey, Elona's Reach ... how 'bout we make Elona? Yeah? Yeah."
TheLordOfBlah
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You know, I think there's a good chance Elona and Tyria actually ARE connected. In Lions Arch, theres the door only accesible as for Canthans arriving for the first time to Tyria, and cannot be acsessed any other way.
Here comes the part where i drool, in the Anmoon Oasis, there is a door/gate/portal very similar to the Lions Arch door, perhaps this will be the way Elonians will access Tyria. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe I'm right, if im right, w00t! i am teh uber |
Brother Chamberlain
it used to be an arena? im not sure, i remember when the arenas in tyria were still active that wasnt an arena, i remember trying to find a way through that gate, also, omega does have a good point about plopping elonians near the end of chpt 1, but lions arch for the canthans isnt all that near the beginning either. Also, i forgot to mention there is a very similar unacsessible gate in Kaineng City, like in Lions Arch, i have never seen this door used, hmmm