The Lost Land and The Chalice of Power

MFw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Moonfall Warriors

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by xb0vv
Even if it exsists its unreachable, obviously because there are people who have walked every milimeter of tyria and cantha.
Just get over it ull never get to what your looking for.
Just because something is SAID to be unreachable doesnt mean it really is. When you were a kid you couldnt reach the top of the fridge. Now do you have that problem? The same goes for this. as our knowledge of the situation grows so does our understanding on how to overcome it. When i was a kid i went and got a stool so i could reach. Now im looking for a glitch to where i can reach this land.

Teet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

I hate to say it, because I think it's fun trying to reach areas that are really not meant to be reachable, but in guild wars they seem to have pretty much total ability to block players. Compare it to a game like WoW, if you've played that. In GW there are invisible wall type areas everywhere, it's basically just the way the game is designed. You can't jump, you can't run down mountains, they have total control to confine you to a certain path if that is what they want. In WoW, there are basically no invisible walls. If they want to block you, they just make a mountain too steep to climb, for instance, but there is not an actual "invisible wall" blocking you. In that case you may overcome it and reach an area not intended to be reached. But in guild wars, it's just a different system, and I'm afraid to say that it's impossible to get around. Good luck, I think it would be awesome if you could find a way to reach these areas, but my opinion is it isn't possible.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

Some lost land like the very old glitch of granite citadel, when you could go past the portal into Tasca's Demise without zoning and eventuall ygoing to the end of the world (proof that its flat)

Khift

Khift

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Ego Trip From Rank [ZERO]

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A 'white block' is simply an item in the game that you have not downloaded the texture and wireframe for. It might not necessarily be an actual item as in piece of equipment, all I mean here is a visual object that shows up in-game that you have not downloaded the information for. Thus if you do not have factions and have never downloaded the item skins from factions if you trade for an item in an explorable zone that was not equipped when you zoned in and then you equip it you will see a big white block. The next time you zone the game will download the file for that particular item and then what you see will not be a white block.

Now, if you actually have an item that despite the fact that you have zoned with it on your possession it remains a white block I would be very interested to know. Simply put, if such an item exists, it would be an item which has no wireframe/texture to download at all. And it wouldn't be the first anomalous item I know to exist in the game, though it could be the weirdest -- for example, I know of a Dwarven Axe with +15% damage always that still exists and a Fiery Dragon Sword with +5 Energy which still exists and I've heard rumors about a 44% Axe surviving the nerf through crafty maneuvering and so on and so forth. I wouldn't be terribly surprised if you did have an anomalous item there. But you have to supply proof. You can't just say that you've got this crazy white block and give no screenshots and no proof.



About the lost land... It is very possible that parts of maps were simply chopped off with the final pass through of the game's creation. If you can find a way to get there then more power to you. Don't get your hopes up though.


My personal favorite 'lost land' is in Dragon's Lair. On the zone portal to the Tomb of Primeval Kings if you hug the left wall very tightly you can get past the portal and into the ToPK zone while still being in the Dragon's Lair. You of course encounter the "end of the world" flatness after a short bit, but if you run all the way to the end of this little area and you look way off in the distance you can see... a fort from the shiverpeaks! You can't really make out any details but it's definitely mountainous, definitely snowy, and definitely has a fortified wooden wall facing you.

Check it out for yourself!

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

I remember a few months back some idiot spamming im ember that all the guildwars players were noobs and level 20 wasnt max. and some lost world crap in Southern shiverpeaks where you have to find this Dwarf who takes you there

roder

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

Diabolus Ex Machina

R/Mo

Could you take a Necro and kill the troll, then use Necrotic Traversal to "warp" to it's location?

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by MFw
I will return to the bridge and wait for the troll to pass and i will take a screen shot of it and post it on photobucket. I'm also thinking the assasin skills such as the teleport skills could get us to the other side of the barrier if we got someone to get the troll closer somehow and then the assassin uses the Death Charge skill (or whatever it is named) and warp to the troll.
That wont work unless arena net changes it from "shadow step" to "teleport". Currently, shadow step only moves you to areas you can walk to. This means you can't go through gates and barriers that are preventing you from getting somewhere.

Quote:
Originally Posted by scrinner
I remember a few months back some idiot spamming im ember that all the guildwars players were noobs and level 20 wasnt max. and some lost world crap in Southern shiverpeaks where you have to find this Dwarf who takes you there
If you can get past lvl 20, it is either a glitch that very, very, very few people know, or a hack(I don't think that is even possible with GW) or something similar to those two. You are not meant to go past lvl 20 in this game, ever.

And with the lost world, maybe its something like the tomb of the dragon's lair glitch, which someone mentions a few posts before mine?

Anyway, if you find a area that we are not meant to get to or another area that seems like we might be able to go there, please post it. This is very interesting, even if it might be pointless.

Nevin

Nevin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

Nice find Cyber.

Energizer Deth Buni

Banned

Join Date: Jan 2006

Near Atlanta GA

MVoA

N/Me

Im not sure about the Land of Lost you are refering to but... If the Slee-Stacks come after you there take 2 crystals and put them together and the bright light will scare them off..... (god is my age showing?)

cup-o-noodles

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/R

Wow, sounds really interesting. And I love a good mystery/adventure. But I have to admit, the OP is already showing characteristics of a scammer. One thing would be the lack of screen shot. But none the less, I'll be on tomorrow and I'll hit you up and try to help.


(If this is a fake, atleast Photo shop something for us to drool over.)

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

Watchtower coast harbours a big castle that really looks like it should be explorable area :-(

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

i want to explore the right side of this ss.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n.../frostgate.jpg

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Yah, visiting the end of the world is fun. Didn't they fix it though?

Lord Darkforge

Lord Darkforge

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Lions Arch District 1 - Storage Under The Tree

[Fear] The Undead Alliance [Fear]

W/Mo

They did fix it, but I'm going to try this out tonight and let you know what exactly this place is, it could just be a hunt for nothing, it could be something.
~
Lord Darkforge

GUE Tech

GUE Tech

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by roder
Could you take a Necro and kill the troll, then use Necrotic Traversal to "warp" to it's location?
Although Necrotic Traversal does work, your destination is actually tranversed during the warp and you end up where you started from, passing it as you go through. Be careful though, I am pretty sure I lost 19 ectos during the warp.

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

i got that ss last month, so no, not fixed as far as i know.

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

I absolutely love the idea that there is something undiscovered out there in the big wide world that is Guild Wars.

My ranger has Grandmaster Cartographer on both continents so I am well aware that there are quite a few places that look like they should be accessible or look like they should DO something if only you knew exactly what to do. For example, in the Ice Cave in Mineral Springs, there are the strange radar dish shaped devices pointing to a dome in the ceiling that looks like it should open.

There are also the places that you can get to but probably should not be able to, like up near the Ice Dome in Shiverpeaks, where you can climb and climb into the mountains until you reach the edge of the world.

I am also amazed that there are no real Easter Eggs in a game as massive as Guild Wars. Anyone remember the hidden chicken level in Dungeon Siege 1?

Yes, there are the clever character names and the skill names that reference films etc. (for example None Shall Pass and several other references to the Black Knight sketch from Monty Python and the Holy Grail) but there is nothing that I would really class as an Easter Egg.

The Gwen “mystery” has been done to death so many times on the forums that we know it is extremely unlikely to be anything more than an unfinished quest that the designers decided not to remove once it turned into a kind of in game legend.

I would love to be the person who found something hidden away that no one had ever found before, but would also just love to hear that someone else had found something previously undiscovered after all this time.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

I have had the white boxes...I did take some screenshots at the time...it was in Kaineng and Cavalon, Devona and other random players were just moving white blocks...quite funny. I shut down the game since I thought something was wrong and when I started it back up I got a string of several error code=007, restarted the PV and then it took about 15 minutes "repairing the data archive"...everything is fine now.

Numa Pompilius

Numa Pompilius

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

At an Insit.. Intis... a house.

Live Forever Or Die Trying [GLHF]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Teet
I hate to say it, because I think it's fun trying to reach areas that are really not meant to be reachable, but in guild wars they seem to have pretty much total ability to block players.
That is not entirely true...
http://mikes-machine.mine.nu/temp/si...ttheworld2.jpg
That's a real screenshot.

There are, or have been, many such areas in GW where you could get to places you were not supposed to. The one in the screenshot is in the Shiverpeaks, but you can e.g. get into the Charr Staging Area of the North Gate mission, and earlier it was possible to sneak into some towns without passing through the town portal. ANet tends to stop access to such areas if they are buggy or possible to exploit (e.g. you could stand on the ramparts of Beacons Perch and shoot at the ice imps below).

Then there are areas most people have probably not seen, such as the vast & empty desert area east of Dunes of Despair (reachable through a narrow passage), the "secret" area next to Ranik in pre-searing, or the area where Rurik solo-farms Stone Summit in the Frost Gate mission (reachable with Necrotic Traversal).

In games as big & complex such as GW, there are also areas which were made, or at least started, but for whatever reason removed from the game. There's the old PvP arenas, and very likely other. It is not entirely impossible that there are obsolete areas which it is still possible to access.

As for easter eggs... the only one I know of is... well, I know of two. Do a search for "Baptiste said full chakra", and have you ever tried standing by the locked treasure room in Kaineng Center and pressed Z?


EDIT: Oh, and my favorite two 'mysteries' in GW, is the temple with 5 blocked teleports in Flame Temple Corridor, and the circle of standing stones in Talmark Wilderness. Obviously they were originally intended to do something/be something/lead somewhere... but don't. Jogs my imagination, that does.

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius

As for easter eggs... the only one I know of is... well, I know of two. Do a search for "Baptiste said full chakra", and have you ever tried standing by the locked treasure room in Kaineng Center and pressed Z?
I knew about the Mhenlo one, but have never tried the Z at Kaineng. I'll do that when I get home tonight :-) Thanks!

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

I must say that reading the first post I thought the guy was drunk! But thinking about it, I too recall places you cannot reach that are/aren't there.
I think I will enjoy keeping up with this thread.

OP, please try to edit your single post and not post 3 times in a row different things... thats what the edit button is for ^_^

Teet

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
That is not entirely true...
http://mikes-machine.mine.nu/temp/si...ttheworld2.jpg
That's a real screenshot.

There are, or have been, many such areas in GW where you could get to places you were not supposed to.
I know what you're saying, it's just that in guild wars if they want to block you, they don't mess around, they just make an "invisible wall" or just make it not possible to walk somewhere, even if it doesn't make much sense not to be able to walk there. Of course there are those places that aren't blocked out, but no doubt it's because they forgot to block it in the first place. What I'm saying is if there are blocked areas, then it won't be possible to find a way to get past it. The only hope is that they forgot to block it so that you can keep walking. I don't see any way to get past their little "invisible wall" system of blocking players.

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
As for easter eggs... the only one I know of is... well, I know of two. Do a search for "Baptiste said full chakra", and have you ever tried standing by the locked treasure room in Kaineng Center and pressed Z?
Ok - I am impressed - I never knew that was there!

I showed it to my son who also plays Guildwars and his immediate reaction was.. "Double Dragon". I guess that has already been tried, but I dont have handy elementalist to try it myself LOL

Anyway, many thanks for showing me something in the game I had not seen before :-))

cup-o-noodles

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

W/R

Teet, if you can get somewhere you're not supposed to in GW it's not because Anet "forgot" to block it. It's because they didn't do a good enough job of blocking it in the first place. Like when HA first came out, anet didn't want people getting throught that little arch and into the back, so they set up an "unpassable" wall of gaurds. See they ment to block it, but there was still a tiny enough hole that people could wiggle through. Which is why Anet tightened the guards together and you can't do that anymore. The same goes for any portals you can walk around and get outside. They ment to block it, but didn't do a good enough job. There's examples of this all over the place.


Wish I could try that Z thing but I don't have factions.

MFw

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Moonfall Warriors

R/Mo

Wow you think this whole error 40 biz is because someone unlocked the lost lands ? IN THE AMERICAN SERVERS @!

Guardian of the Light

Guardian of the Light

Forge Runner

Join Date: Sep 2005

Radicals Against Tyrants

W/

^ Anet reliezed they had released the lost land so they crashed the servers so we couldn't get to it ^_^