look, a 55 monk works right? a 55 necro works right? and this is the same except a bit more dmg u idiot
and ITV is english, but its still true wat jeremy kyle says.
My new 55hp sin build :D
no damage tank
silverwyng
it might be good in theory [if a monk can 55, if a necro can 55, then a sin SHOULD be able to 55], but since you yourself cannot prove or even built the 55 sin, then we don't know for sure.
and no damage tank, no need to call people idiots or dickheads. people make mistakes, be it skipping parts of your posts or correct spelling. please refrain from doing that. i know i'm not a mod but i do believe we can all have a nice and CIVIL discussion here.
and no damage tank, no need to call people idiots or dickheads. people make mistakes, be it skipping parts of your posts or correct spelling. please refrain from doing that. i know i'm not a mod but i do believe we can all have a nice and CIVIL discussion here.
Yanman.be
Why am I the idiot? You post a build, then got no proof to back it up. More damage? Don't think so.
Guitary Boy
Can i just take this opportunity for people to read whole posts (yes you too no damage tank 
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In an earlier post no damage tank, you stated a monk would be better than an ss because an spiteful spirit necro can only cast ss and it cant cast essence bond and balthazars spirit on you, so basicly you are taking a monk that is just going to sit there getting energy and adrenaline
(your an idiot if you think your the one getting it because the energy is directed to the enchantment mainainer, and you obviously think this as you actually said it yourself)
And maybe cast Shield of judgement and zealots on you, taking years to kill due to knock down and running away from aoe, and it is possible to get stripped (unless you got your uber pwnage 3 second sb or shadow form)
Math lesson: Assuming your tanking 4 aataxes,
Soj, 216 damage every 3 seconds. Assuming you have 16 smite and curses.
Echoed ss, 294 damage every 1.33 seconds thats about 3 times faster.
But lets put it to prospective, chances are you wont even have a monk willing to come with you. But if they do SoJ will generally slow your run down a hell of a lot, so lets assume they will be keeping you alive, not slowing your run down. (also getting all the energy from the rather pointless balthazars spirit and essence bond that you think your getting energy from)
You will be sitting there spamming your 2 skills (the degen from poison will only neutralize aataxes natural regen) that recharge every 20 seconds, one skill of which is just a counter regen spell, no damage. With your stated 12 shadow arts your going to be doing a whoping 41 damage every 20 seconds (unless your using zealots, but that will slow things down even more because you'll lose aggro)
So, 41 damage every 20 seconds its going to take 5-6 minutes assuming you wont get interrupted once (because sv on ss necros is so noob) per one aataxe, when you could spend 20 seconds with an ss necro to take down a whole group... So much for more damage. Stop calling people dick heads and telling them to read you whole post, why dont you read my whole previous post rather than the first paragraph and having a strop.
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well... if he read it first then he wouldnt of made an idiot out of urself. now if u wanna have an argument ur looking at the #1 in arguments!! i sed wat needed to be sed, if u dont get idiots into line then they will go on being an idiot. i think thats the case WITH u
If your so good at geting "idiots" into line (because flaming and offensive language is ftw) how come you are an idiot your self, i mean who the hell announces that they are #1 at arguements and you've come to the right place to argue with some one, for when some one comments on it you get in a great big strop. Also what gives you the right to put people back in line, if any one needs putting back in line its yourself.
no damage tank
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More damage? Don't think so.
wats the iron palm and entangling asp for then? fancy looks? to do a dance? thats where the more damage comes from. and thats why YOUR an idiot
Guitary boy, you really ARE making an idiot out of urself, essence bond gives energy to the caster, balthazars spirit gives energy to the enchanted person. i will now quote from guildwarsguru Essence bond: "While you maintain this "Enchantment", whenever target ally takes physical damage, you gain 1 energy." Balthazars Spirit: "While you maintain this "Enchantment", target ally gains adrenaline and Energy after taking damage. (The amount of adrenaline gained increases depending on your rank in Smiting Prayers.)" please note the target ally part.
Yanman.be
More damage? Still don't think so.
SS will still do more damage, than a single zealot's fire, iron palm, entangling asp. We're talking level 29's here. Bye bye unignored damage! You haven't tested it yourself, so there is NO WAY of proving it will do more damage than SoJ or SS.
Blind Rage
the thing i dont like about this build.... I dont think the creator knows what he is talking about, nor has tested this build, please please screenshots or a video before anyone will take you seriously
no damage tank
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More damage? Still don't think so.
SS will still do more damage, than a single zealot's fire, iron palm, entangling asp. We're talking level 29's here. Bye bye unignored damage! You haven't tested it yourself, so there is NO WAY of proving it will do more damage than SoJ or SS. u are such an idiot!! im not talking just about UW, im saying that for the anywhere build, it does more dmg than a 55 monk, cos its got deadly arts, zealots and SoJ, rather than zealots and SoJ. get with the program no damage tank
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the thing i dont like about this build.... I dont think the creator knows what he is talking about, nor has tested this build, please please screenshots or a video before anyone will take you seriously
know wat im talking about? dude i know the 55 skills, know how it works, i think u should undersand and follow tip number 3
no damage tank
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chances are you wont even have a monk willing to come with you
lol!!! dont u kno my m8 has a 55 monk? and he has an SS, he would happily go while my other m8 is off. so i suggest u ask how easy it is b4 u moan at others!!
Yanman.be
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u are such an idiot!! im not talking just about UW, im saying that for the anywhere build, it does more dmg than a 55 monk, cos its got deadly arts, zealots and SoJ, rather than zealots and SoJ. get with the program
I don't see how lower attributes can do more damage...Also, those deadly arts skill are vs 1 player only..if you're gonna kill'm 1 by 1 , gee gee energy if you're on fighting your last few guys. *edit* I think the OP tries to make us as mad as possible, try out the build to prove it won't work, and then see if it does work( it won't ) so he doesn't waste his money on it.
crow120
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the thing i dont like about this build.... I dont think the creator knows what he is talking about, nor has tested this build, please please screenshots or a video before anyone will take you seriously
I'm with you Blind Rage. I was looking forward to this build but normally (basing this on other build topics here) the OP tries it goes "Oh, hey this works" and shares it with the community. I might give this a go round for S&G's later on today.
narud
you cant use dags, they are two handed, unless you find a -50hp dagger, you can only get 105 hp.
Youre trying to use assasins major damage to make up for smite monks damage. Without a combo assasins damage isnt enough, i use normal 55 skills and shadow form and do uw with guildie ss all the time. If youre running into energy problems then revise your build. I farm a lot of stuff with a 55 sin and never have energy problems, once i get down to one or two guys, mending keeps me alive, all i need is PS. no damage tank
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you cant use dags, they are two handed, unless you find a -50hp dagger, you can only get 105 hp.
Youre trying to use assasins major damage to make up for smite monks damage. Without a combo assasins damage isnt enough, i use normal 55 skills and shadow form and do uw with guildie ss all the time. If youre running into energy problems then revise your build. I farm a lot of stuff with a 55 sin and never have energy problems, once i get down to one or two guys, mending keeps me alive, all i need is PS. sure, u may run into energy probs on aatxes, but with the smites u wont no damage tank
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Originally Posted by narud
you cant use dags, they are two handed, unless you find a -50hp dagger, you can only get 105 hp.
Youre trying to use assasins major damage to make up for smite monks damage. Without a combo assasins damage isnt enough, i use normal 55 skills and shadow form and do uw with guildie ss all the time. If youre running into energy problems then revise your build. I farm a lot of stuff with a 55 sin and never have energy problems, once i get down to one or two guys, mending keeps me alive, all i need is PS. sure, u may run into energy probs on aatxes, but with the smites u wont but ty, someone here has just shown that 55 sins can work, can u do a few screenshots of droks trolls (using SoJ) or if not a video, that way they WILL have proof  anyway ty for a good comment (for once)
crow120
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but ty, someone here has just shown that 55 sins can work, can u do a few screenshots of droks trolls (using SoJ) or if not a video, that way they WILL have proof
anyway ty for a good comment (for once)
I don't think it was ever a matter of whither or not 55 'sins worked. It was a matter of you being the one who posted this build and not backing it up with screenshots or video. You said yourself you hadn't tried it. Then when people asked you for proof you called them idiots and dickheads for asking questions. One other minor thing you might consider is putting all your thoughts into one reply rather than double and triple posting. 
no damage tank
asking questions? yeah, dumb questions that i already put into my post, that is y they are idiots.
no damage tank
and can we just finally get this post back to not flaming, i will stop flaming if u ask questions i havnt already answered.
Yanman.be
I have a question sir! When will you post screenshots? Or prove that you do more damage Q.Q
Blind Rage
okay... for the second time, we want proof, go take you assassin to droknars forge, run the EXACT build you listed (right attributes,skills etc), Take a screenshot of your attributes and skill bar and the entire starting portion of the troll cave dead at your feet (how a 55 monk would do it). or a video, and i will give you 20k, until you can do that no one will believe you.
Yanman.be
Heck I will be even so nuts to meet you in GW and follow you and see it with my own eyes!
Blind Rage
okay, once again to clarify, I am placing a wager that you ( must be a picture from you) cannot solo the full cave area that a 55 monk normally pulls. the picture must show your party list ( to prove your alone ) your skill bar, your health, the attribute window, all the trolls MUST BE dead at your feet, not scattered away from you when they die.
IF you can do that, and use the exact build you said "works" then i will hand you 20k in game and issue you an apology.
crow120
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okay, once again to clarify, I am placing a wager that you ( must be a picture from you) cannot solo the full cave area that a 55 monk normally pulls. the picture must show your party list ( to prove your alone ) your skill bar, your health, the attribute window, all the trolls MUST BE dead at your feet, not scattered away from you when they die.
IF you can do that, and use the exact build you said "works" then i will hand you 20k in game and issue you an apology. Tall order Blind Rage. Though I have my doubts he will take you up on your offer. SluggyTheZealot
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you cant use dags, they are two handed, unless you find a -50hp dagger, you can only get 105 hp.
Youre trying to use assasins major damage to make up for smite monks damage. Without a combo assasins damage isnt enough, i use normal 55 skills and shadow form and do uw with guildie ss all the time. If youre running into energy problems then revise your build. I farm a lot of stuff with a 55 sin and never have energy problems, once i get down to one or two guys, mending keeps me alive, all i need is PS. I have a friend that runs ss/sv uw with me and I tried my assassin out down there. We did okay but I ran in to serious energy issues especially after using shadow form. Basically I'm just trying to think of what you did for energy management. I of course have the standard prot spirit/mending/healing breeze/balth spirit/shadow form. I'm not sure how I should fill out the other 3. Any suggestions? (edit) forgot to put essence bond in there, that basically fixed me. no damage tank
sorry, i cant accept ur wager, as i deleted my sin to stop the video shit and all that. but if anyone has an A/Mo try it out and we split the 20k 50/50 cos its my build. and btw, Zealots ISNT the main dmg, the main is from SoJ
Blind Rage
lmao, how is it even your build? you just made a post filled with guess work and expected it work, good work, you embarrased yourself and the assassin class, now would be a good time to uninstall.
Yanman.be
Hahahahah
Blind Rage
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Hahahahah
Yanman, if you ever want to meet up and kill shit, add me in game,
Blind Poison. Hollerith
Any secondary monk can 55, but with 8 in smite, you may as well just wand stuff to death.
I recommend you actually test your 'builds' before submitting them for public discussion because... well you know what happens. Bloodied Blade
Ok, I honestly hate tanksin builds, but I'll give this a shot:
Firstly, please post a vid of this in action... I'm not 100% inclined to believe that you managed to do UW (which the 'with enchantment removal' part implies to me) solo with an assassin 55. For your damage combo, I would reccomend a different combo if you're going to be using Zealot's Fire. Instead of Iron Palm, try using Jagged Strike. This will let you (with Asp) place -7 degen on a target (14 damage per second). If you don't want to use Zealot's Fire for its marginal damage (which it is at 8 smite), you could try Death Blossom, which allows for more pure dmg. Just a few things to consider- your current build has an optimum energy of 32 (unless you use +energy daggers, which are only +5), assuming full Shrouded. 2 maintained enchants means that you regen 2/3 of an energy per second. Balthazar's Spirit will help tremendously with your energy, but only to an extent. You won't be able to compensate for many things that the 55hp casting builds can (i.e. catching a rend, refereshing something that got interrupted). @Dark Tykane, zealous daggers would make a little bit of a difference, but mostly their greatest advantage is when used in a full combo (ex. for pvp in the GPS combo, which is still usable), usually generating 5-10 energy (enough for another chain in some cases, or a finisher using energy that you technically don't have). @Guitary Boy, the idea behind using Zealot's Fire isn't covered often anymore (many people just use SoJ and ignore ZF), but if you only cast your enchants that set off ZF every 3 seconds it is not counted as an AoE and can be used effectively). EDIT: @no damage tank, you mentioned earning 20k in one farm (definitely gonna be UW in order to defend the build) and also mentioned the use of SoJ as your main damage... Shadow Form {e} Shield of Judgement {e} ...I'll let you figure it out... Hollerith
No no no, the funniest thing is the OP never tried it; somewhere in the middle of the thread he said he's only lvl 14. The 20k refers to a bet that the build simply doesn't work... not even considering his claims that this can outdamage a 55 Mo build.
Lambentviper
the thing i found most hilarious was that he yelled at a guy and called him a dickhead because he asked if we were supposed to use daggers for this.
The answer being immediate (and hateful) was "DAGGERRSS!!!!!" well dumbass, tell me how you get 55hp with no -50 hp offhand. Please, PLEASE tell me....screw the vids...just tell me that. 2nd most hilarious: He was peer-pressured (over the internet, mind you) to delete his own character because he was scared of people chasing him down for videos and screenshots. Insecure, or crazy? Both? you decide. joncoish
Is it just me or is this no damage tank guy the most retarded person ever? He can't be any older then 10, by how he presents himself!
And since when does asking questions make you an idiot? Get a life dumbass!
Yukito Kunisaki
I don't even play monk and I know this won't work...
Shield of Judgement without 16 in Smiting means that er... You're not doing maximum damage? No Assassin can deal AoE armor ignoring damage efficiently as 16 Smite Monk... You've got what? Death Blossom?  Smite Monks will for me and anyone else who knows game mechanic, be the best 'invici-build' to be created and should only be that way. The fact that invicibuilds work around an AoE armor ignoring skill is the only reason they work so well. 55 monk or 55 necro builds to me are the most efficient for such things...
moriz
what happens when an assassin meets a mesmer? this happens:
sorry, i couldn't resist.
Yanman.be
^^^p w n e d
no damage tank
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lmao, how is it even your build? you just made a post filled with guess work and expected it work, good work, you embarrased yourself and the assassin class, now would be a good time to uninstall.
lol dumb pricks like u annoy me, i made up the build, its not guess work, its just an assasin using monk skills + a few sin skills, try it out and u will see wat i mean :P
PS. btw, its no way guess work. no damage tank
ok, lets clear something up, u could tank and deal dmg easily as a 55 sin, just using monk skills, but i wanted to add a few more dmging skills
no damage tank
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I don't even play monk and I know this won't work...
Shield of Judgement without 16 in Smiting means that er... You're not doing maximum damage? No Assassin can deal AoE armor ignoring damage efficiently as 16 Smite Monk... You've got what? Death Blossom? Smite Monks will for me and anyone else who knows game mechanic, be the best 'invici-build' to be created and should only be that way. The fact that invicibuilds work around an AoE armor ignoring skill is the only reason they work so well. 55 monk or 55 necro builds to me are the most efficient for such things...
1, i dont have death blossom2, i didnt say it was best at dmg dealing, its simply a cheaper 55 monk that deals a bit less dmg, so there u got it, it works just as a 55 monk does, but just cheaper.
Yanman.be
Proof. Make it yourself. Screenshots. After trying and failing, uninstall, thank you.
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