Ragos Flame Staff : Get it cheap

Ragos Flame Staff

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right then

ive seen ragos flame staff going for too much , the cheapest i could find one was for 50k , but there is a way to get a staff for under 15k

Staff

Energy +10
Fire damage: 11-22 (req. 9 Fire Magic)
Halves casting time of Fire Magic spells (Chance: 20%)
Halves skill recharge of Fire Magic spells (Chance: 20%)
Energy +5
Enchantments last 20% longer
Two-handed

that is the actual staff

to make your own you require : 5 collector items + perfect insightful staff head and a perfect enchantment staff wrapping (all for less than 15k )

go to the any collector in the following places : after the collecter are the items needed to trade for the staff

Altrumm Ruins : cantha : items needed = 5 warden horns
Vulture drifts : tyria : items needed = 5 massive jawbones
Talus chute : tyria : items needed = 5 frigid hearts

i went to altrum ruins and traded for a lotus staff (other two look like basic tyria flame staff's )

once you have your staff , get your perfect insightful staff and you perfect enchantment staff wrapping , add it to your staff and this is the skin you will end up with is ....

Staff

Energy +10
Fire damage: 11-22 (req. 9 Fire Magic)
Halves casting time of Fire Magic spells (Chance: 20%)
Halves skill recharge of Fire Magic spells (Chance: 20%)
Energy +5
Enchantments last 20% longer
Two-handed

exactly the same as a ragos flame staff ( it doesnt look the same but hey , its over 30k cheaper XD )

I'm not sure exactly which forum you wanted to post this, but it's should definately not be here in the game suggestion forum. Post it in the proper forum please, or send me a PM in the next while and I'll move this thread to where you want it.

soz , cheers for correcting it m8 i wasnt really concentrating i had guild wars open and i was multi-tasking XD

and all of this is new and exciting because...

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actually i take that back. I didnt know collector in Altrumm Ruins has different skin

WTS : Insightful + 5 energy staff head!

I saw a guy in droks trying to sell rago's flame staff for 100k. I just laughed and laughed and laughed til he logged off =b

I thought most people knew about these things, I keep seeing them on the forum. People pay (hopefully) because the want the skin and the name to show off with.

I care about this why? Fire Magic is completely overrated; high cost, lots of exhaustion, and no self protection.

Personally, I just paid the whole 1k for a Flint's Fleshcleaver, and now I've got a good Water staff, for less than it costs to make one. Or I could pay 10k for a Galigord's Stone Staff and still pay less then it would to craft it.

i just wasted 2 minutes of my life reading this

There is an even better way to get the staff. Farm it up yourself on either Orozar or Final Assault. Then it's FREE!

Just join one of the umpteen SF farming PUGs, and kill Rago until it drops for you. Even with two runs a night, you should be able to get one within a week...or accumulate enough other greens to buy one.

Air is where the exhaustion is, not fire. There are only a couple fire spells that cause exhaustion.

Anyway, the info is good to keep putting out there because new people are coming to the game and the forums all the time. Just because we who are forum junkies already know about it doesn't mean everyone does.

I quess you've never seen my Earth build. Absolutely no exhaustion at all, and yet it deals out massive damage, while keeping up defenses.

You can always hack into a friends account and steal it too!

wow... some of you guys are real ass hats. The OP is only trying to be helpful and post some useful info for newer people that might need it. Remember, just cause you can post a response doesn't mean you need to.

Actually I doubt that anyone who can afford to buy greens doesn't know that you can actually get a crappy collectors...

Crappy collector items? They're the same if you look good enough. It's the best about GW there is mate...You don't need to pay alot to be good. aka skill>time played.

It's funny... I've got a slew of green items by farming them regularly. However, I've never had the attitude expressed above. Collector's items are most definitely not crap. They are customizable like other weapons (with the exception that you cannot salvage the mods back off). They come with perfect stats (aside from not having mods) and they're cheap. That, in my book at least, makes them the opposite of crappy.

If looks are your thing then greens and rare-skinned golds are the way to go. Certainly there are some greens that have mods you cannot find on normal drops or from collectors. These may be slightly better than some collector's weapons, but in no way so superior that collector's items are relegated to the crap pile. If functionality is your primary objective (and it should be) then collector's items fit the bill.

tuskan, the thing is, if we have a thread for every single permutation of this wonderful recent discovery (sarcasm), then the boards will be worthless.

1. Rago Flame Staff! Get it cheap!
2. Razorstone!
3. Drago Flat Bow!
4. Koosun Fire Staff!
5. Craft your own fur squares with charr hides!
6. You can get collector armor without having to pay 1.5k!
7. YOU GET THE FREAKIN POINT

if people have noobish questions, there are entire sections (AND EVEN WEB SITES......wiki anyone?!?!?!?!!?) that address all this stuff. It's a total waste of forum space to be posting up drivel like this that is discussed in depth elsewhere, in all possible permutations.

seriously, this is a total waste of bw

Fire Magic won the team a match, and that team beat evil the next round. Fire Magic was the BIGGEST suprise weapon imo in the history of GvG whne iQ pulled that off on iB.... for details, watch VoD iQ vs iB match #2.

No Spoilers.

I farm greens too. I use greens too. And most of the collectors are crappy because:

1) I haven't seen 20/10 or 10/10 caster collectors items, have you?
2) Wands with 5v50 doesn't really work for me
3) It's handy but not worth to use as a primary
4) Gold is superior in many ways
5) If functionallity is my primary objective I wouldn't bet on collectors nor greens

1. You got me on 10/10... we don't have collectors for those. Personally, they aren't my favorite. Most of my builds focus two attributes. With a 20/20 wand and 20/20 offhand (one for each attribute) I feel adequately covered. I'm sure there are some cases where 10/10 is very useful, but I haven't felt handicapped by not using a 10/10.

2. I'll agree there. The only reason they are around is because theres a 5^50 collector that's part of the end game in Factions. (Of course the collector takes an Amulet of the Mists... but I'm splititng hairs because I like to.)

3. I don't understand. Collectors aren't worth using as a primary? So a collector's staff modded exactly the same as Rago's Staff isn't useful? I fail to see you're justification here.

4. Only in possible permutations of mods and inherent mods. However, if you have a green that suits your build then the only point to get a gold is to spend more money. (Especially if the skin is rare). Gold surpasses green on the basis that it can be modded while green cannot. It's only better than collector's weapons because items can be salvaged back off. Most inherent mods are also covered by collectors with the exception of maybe 1-2 inherent types. I don't count those two things as "many ways." Superior cost... that's maybe another way gold beats collector's items.

5. See point 3. Functionally equivalent to a green. Same goes for buying a 15^50 gold sword or getting the same (albeit normal-looking) verision of that sword from a collector. You can add the same mods. Functionally equivalent.

Lastly, what is your primary objective? I'm coming from a utility in PvP/PvE standpoint. If you're talking about making money by trading rare skinned weapons... well then were arguing about the wrong thing.

Collector look bad... Rago has the dragon double headed staff skin...

You got it wrong, if you are telling me that collectors items equal rare items in functionallity... well that is quite wrong. I'll ask again - can you find me a collector's staff that has 20% recharge of healing spells and 10% cast time of all spells for example? Including a nice skin... If you want to be better than the standart pvp player you have to look for items that outdo pvp-class ones. And some collectors items are below the pvp level... As these 5v50 wands. And you can't have 20% healing 20% prot bonus on one staff from a collector - another example. My point is that the only collector items that are actually worth cost millions of gold. Another example - can you get a melee weapon with unconditional dmg from a collector? And I don't even want to talk about the skins, the majority of players prefer nice skins to normal ones. That is not handy in pvp, of course. But it's a nice addition. And 10/10 staff i perfect for most of the build I play in a gvg. Elmo using 4 attributes needs global recharges.

Hmm, you make a few valid points. I do have an old bow that had unconditional 13% more damage w/o any penalty to armor or energy. I agree it's worth a fair bit more than a collector 15^50 bow.

Maybe we need more collectors that replicate all the items you can find in game? Afterall, the game is supposed to be about skill, not how long you've spent finding the perfect 20% HRT prot / 20% HCR heal staff with a req 9 in prot.

Anyway, I'll conceed that you don't get every possible combination of mods from collectors. What you do get is certainly the most popular ones. Other more esoteric mods are probably required for esoteric builds. If the builds aren't so rare then maybe the collectors need to start carrying those mods.

Ideally we'd have a collector that had a pallete of mods that you could add to a base item.

At the very least, I see your point.

I've seen a couple of these "get (insert name of green item here) cheap!!" threads that do little beyond telling people to go get collectors items and mod them up to match. This is not a new concept and I honestly don't see the need for a whole new thread to tell most people what is relatively obvious. If the point you wanted to convey was that there is a new skin at Altrumn Ruins, then there are already several threads out there that beat you to it.

What it basically comes down to is that most people want Rago's staff because they like having a green item. People can get any item with any stats they want from collectors items and in many cases the stats on collectors items are either better or have the possibility of being better than any similar green items. (ex: there is no +15%^50 vamp flatbow of fortitude green, nor any Insightful 20/20 healing staff of fortitude/enchantment green). Most of the time people buy greens because they want to have a green item not because it is the cheapest way to obtain an ideal weapon.

Lol If Id Have Known Tryin To Save Ppl Money Wouldnt Have Caused Such Hassle I Wouldnt Have Made This Post XD

We just find it repetitive and stupid considering there is already talking about how *gasp* dudes collectors exist.

Keep in mind, people who read these forums are not the average GW players, but the very good ones and probably already know all this stuff.

....Yeah right. But do I get that uber-looking two-headed dragon staff from ANY collector? (Or even rare drop?)

No.

Exactly. Rago's price is all about the skin, not the stats. Especially when our only choice was that ugly looking stick, owning Rago's Staff was the only way to have a good looking fire staff.

Would never buy Rago's for the stats. The skin is the jeweled staff skin for illusion staffs with the dual dragons. That's the real reason you want it, not the stats.

many of the green items are recreatable with collectors items and mods......I wanted Kunvies airstaff for some time.....but the stats are just 20/20 (get from collector or weaponsmith) with a perfect hale staff head, and a +1 airmagic 20% wrapping......so I made one instead. (a bitch to get the wrapping at 20% but only paid 2k for it anyways).....also I found out that using a weaponsmith wand and a collector focus ultimately gave me more energy so I stopped using the staff!
SO its not really the stats that people are looking for, its the skin....and some of them can be made as well (check out guildwars wiki if you are looking for something in particular).....

I don't think the OP's post is anything new to most people.

That you can make replicas of Greens with collectors items + mods is pretty common knowledge.

Also the exact same info is on the wiki already -> http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Rago%27s_Flame_Staff

same goes for ghial's staff... that staff is nice and all but its ugly as trash

mine owns the shit out of it.... my own 20%deathmagic+1 +5 energy bone staff dyed black..... along with cold dmg (dark dmg is useless)

common sence ftw. People dont want collectors items. People want the badass skins.