Dervishes= More hated by monks than sins.

I'm not worried about healing Dervishes, I'm more worried about enemy Dervishes taking away MY enchantments. Not to mention other classes doing so...

Rending Touch: You and target touched foe lose one Enchantment

Forget Shock Warriors, this is the new metagame... lol TOUCH WARRIORS run.

When I say boon prot and bonders I mean maintained maintained enchants or those with significant duration, specifically Life Bond/Life Barrier in addition to Protective Spirit, Vigorous Spirit, Aegis, Shielding Hands, Judge's Insight, Healing Breeze, Healng Seed, Shield Guardian, Spirit Bond, Shield of Regen... basically anything > 10 seconds.

I didn't mean RoF and Guardian... those are only about 5-6 seconds as it is.

Seriously, they ought to make the skills end enchantments that are from the Dervish profession only.

Another thing is how will this work with Orders Necros and other team buffs... All of those Big casts / recharge times can be covered by a Rit Lord easily, people really need to consider Rit Lords as a excelent replacement to the second monk, and I think this will make them do so

Shelter > Union > Displacement > recoup Dervish cant sack these bonuses so feel free to enchant them to you hearts content.

When I say boon prot and bonders I mean maintained maintained enchants or those with significant duration, specifically Life Bond/Life Barrier in addition to Protective Spirit, Vigorous Spirit, Aegis, Shielding Hands, Judge's Insight, Healing Breeze, Healng Seed, Shield Guardian, Spirit Bond, Shield of Regen... basically anything > 10 seconds. Talking from a non-HA perspective:

Vigorous Spirit, Shielding Hands, Healing Breeze (except for Emos), Healing Seed, Shield of Regeneration aren't used anyway - and I haven't seen Shield Guardian, and non-Factions-ownership-ftl.

So that leaves Prot Spirit, (Healing Breeze,) and Spirit Bond - and Spirit Bond lasts for 8 seconds only anyway.

mega jamie,

1. you do realize there is an extremely high probability there will be few primary ritualists going over there since they are most likely not getting any new skills.

Have you not looked at the 25 new Rit skills on guildwiki? And btw, if you have a character you like and can play well, you'll try to take it anywhere new.

Another thing is how will this work with Orders Necros and other team buffs... Dervish with continual orders in it is going to be pretty good... if they have 12 mysticism and good scythe mastery, they'll be able to deliver pious attack basically for free (4 energy gained back, plus the time it takes to swing, the 5 energy cost is paid) every 5 seconds, and get 24 health every time. that small heal alone is equivalent to over 2 pips of health regen; even more if they have OotV on them. Then of course there's the extra damage awarded by orders when not discharging the enchantment, and the extra damage dealt by pious assault when discharging it.

A team of dervishes backed up by an orders necro, a monk, and perhaps a good paragon with "watch yourself!", mending refrain, and then cautery sig for condition control sounds pretty damn strong (and they won't fall to the weakness I expect many dervs will have, which is having to cast enchantments while in combat to be effective - a backfire will easily kill this type of Derv).

The warrior still has a slightly higher capacity for dealing damadge due to the fact that they have the strengh attribute, but take into consideration the dervish has enchantments that make theyre attacks deal holy damadge (effectivly giving theyre attacks 100% armor penetration) That said, I would most likely play as a supporting damadge dealer... much like an assasin, however, unlike an assasin, you can actually defend yourself with the many defensive skills available to the dervish. I beg to differ, warriors have more damage potential because of adren spikes, not strength. Eviscerate saves the day, again. And holy damage does not give you 100% armor penetration. The only skills that gives you 100% armor penetration are Obsidian Flame and holy damage smiting spells. 100% armor penetration means ignoring armor, holy damage doesn't do that. The armor on your armor sets (60-100) applies to everything that is not elemental or Obisidan Flame, including holy damage (it's not elemental and it's not OF). I'm talking about holy damage from melee/ranged attacks here, of course. Holy spells ignore all armor, always. Thing is, you only have your basic armor as defense against holy. +20 against Physical or +30 Elemental won't help you, since holy partains to neither of those 2 categories. And 'Sins have tons of defensive skills. Check a Priest of Balthazar for more info on that.

That said, I'll most likely be playing as an Avatar of Balthazar/Sand Shards + SoM solo AoE farmer.