Ok, now FIRST don't get me wrong, I love greens all my characters run around with a green or two.
Now for a bit of discussion, just wanting a bit of a review after the greens were added months ago. I think variety is good in a game, but I think greens will end up destroying the golds economy (Now I releaize this is what was intended when they were introduced, but bear with me)
Greens are perfect, regularly have nice skins, nice req, cannot be dyed which is a shame I think, but apart from the rich or obsessive compulsive (no offense intended!) there really there is no need for golds. I think this is a bad thing because as I said variety is good, less and less people seem to be using golds (just an observation from people calling their weapons when I'm in a party) I like what they have done to the economy and green hunting, elite missions with a purpose etc, but I liked the good old days where everyone in the party was weilding something different.
If we look into the future say after nightfall or even chapter 4 there will be an even greater variety of greens with different mods to suit our liking so there will always be a green for the job, at the moment golds are still needed to produce weapons with certain mod combinations, but in the future will they still be needed?
I enjoy my gold drops, exciting when the occassionaly drop, but when you're holding the perfect green item you know its not going to be useful to yourself and unlikely to anyone else unless it's a rare skin, is this where the gold market is heading?
Whats everyone's thoughts/opinions on this?
Gold Items Destroyed: Their Future?
LuckyGiant
Sekkira
This speculation that greens would destroy the gold market was made when SF was released. It hasn't come anywhere close to pass.
Knightsaber Sith
Already, the only golds that are really worth anything are the ones with a rare skin and all perfect mods. There will always be a market for those.
It would be funny if they made a green with the crystalline sword skin.......
It would be funny if they made a green with the crystalline sword skin.......
Jumping Is Uselss
I'd like to see a green crystalline sword with a decent mod because it will drive the outrageous prices of crystalline down.
LuckyGiant
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This speculation that greens would destroy the gold market was made when SF was released. It hasn't come anywhere close to pass.
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Umm actually like a week or two after the greens were first introduced they crushed the markets prices (which was good because they were getting insane,
150k+ for sword pommel +30hp etc)
I'm talking currently and in the future though as more greens are introduced with future chapters. Whenever I'm in the main cities I no longer really see people wanting to sell 14>50 stuff unless its a rare skin etc, the golds market used to be crawling with these affordable weapons even after greens were first introduced, it seems to have really diminished and I'm wondering will it get worse still when there is a vast pool of greens to choose from in the future.
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I'd like to see a green crystalline sword with a decent mod because it will drive the outrageous prices of crystalline down.
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Zakarr
Golds can have all possible modifier combinations, they can be dyed at least partially and they still have some rare skins which none green has. I don't know what greens Nightfall and future updates will hold but Anet probably want to keep golds as the ultimate items. I really hope so.
Kyosuke
I love golds b/c I can do whatever i want with them... If they add alot more greens and butcher teh economy alot of people will be pissed. I don't really care, just so long as I can continue to make weapons the way i want, with the skin i want and the color i want.
Hyper Cutter
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I'd like to see a green crystalline sword with a decent mod because it will drive the outrageous prices of crystalline down.
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Taken
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Besides, the price of crystallines has dropped enough that they are quite affordable anyway.
Venom4112
Well look at it this way: Whats worth more? A Victos axe, or a Max req 9 15^50 sickle? The sickle would sell for 15 million, while the victos sell for 20k
Golds arent going anywhere
Golds arent going anywhere
Priceykins
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Well look at it this way: Whats worth more? A Victos axe, or a Max req 9 15^50 sickle? The sickle would sell for 15 million, while the victos sell for 20k
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However, I would love to see a gold crystaline, as I love that skin, and with HoH being the way that it is, its very hard to get a group there if you have no rank, so how are us pvers gonna get a crystaline????? By bringing in a green one thats how
The greens market though has been driving the gold market down, as players now dont need to buy a 15^50 axe, then a zealos mod, and a +30hp mod, which would cost ~100k+(depending on skin), they can jus buy a wings axe for about 30kish(what I got mine for), which means players trying to sell a gold axe with the same mods have cheaper competiton.
I agree with the greens market though, as it means casual players can still get good weapons, without having to spend a long time saving up for them, or buying ebay gold for them.
Rathcail
What's so bad about having affordable weapons anyway? Is it so horrible to party with someone in PvE who has max upgrades in his weapon?
Venom4112
Ok, lets try another example with a relatively common skin.
Victos blade or Shadow Blade req 9 15^50 3/1 +30. The shadow blade will sell for 100k~, while victos blade sells for 7k?
Victos blade or Shadow Blade req 9 15^50 3/1 +30. The shadow blade will sell for 100k~, while victos blade sells for 7k?
unienaule
Golds will stay popular for two reasons.
1) You can customize them with any combination of mods you want.
2) They are shiny, and I for one likes me my shinies.
1) You can customize them with any combination of mods you want.
2) They are shiny, and I for one likes me my shinies.
Lichtenberg
I think a way to keep the prices of gold items if they changed the skins of the greens to like collector weapons, even though they would have perfect mods , they would look pretty fugly
or at least change the skins of greens of rare skins, like razerstone and rago's flame staff or victos bulwark
or at least change the skins of greens of rare skins, like razerstone and rago's flame staff or victos bulwark
Samuel Dravis
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Ok, lets try another example with a relatively common skin.
Victos blade or Shadow Blade req 9 15^50 3/1 +30. The shadow blade will sell for 100k~, while victos blade sells for 7k? |
The Herbalizer
I havnt bought more than one or two perfect factions weapons as they are not rare and are not particularly nice looking. If Nightfall items are the same i.e. nothing particularly rare then I wont buy many. Virtually every perfect item I own is from Tyria. There are only so many Tyrian items you can own before there is nothing left to buy and if the future chapters have a lack of rare items then I will not be purchasing any more gold items. I am not the only person who feels like this, some people refuse to buy Factions items. Anyways Greens never ruined gold items for me as I only buy gold items. They can drive the prices of golds down but I will always buy gold items.
Wow @ people saying they want Green Crystallines to ruin the price of them. Just because you cant buy a perfect one doesnt mean Anet should destroy the price of them. Just buy a crap purple one for 50k and customize it as not many people customize perfect ones so yours will deal more dmg.
Wow @ people saying they want Green Crystallines to ruin the price of them. Just because you cant buy a perfect one doesnt mean Anet should destroy the price of them. Just buy a crap purple one for 50k and customize it as not many people customize perfect ones so yours will deal more dmg.
eternal pho
Ever since the greens came out, people didn't buy as much gold items.
ChildeOfMalkav
Why is it that everytime prices drop, people scream "Oh no the economy is ruined!!!!!"
How is keeping prices ridiculously high a good economy? How is putting greens in killing variety? Who the hell said gold items are unwanted? Weird, because last time I checked the sell forum is crammed full of people buying/selling gold items.
Seriously stop screaming about the economy everytime an item drops below the 100k +15 ecto price mark.
How is keeping prices ridiculously high a good economy? How is putting greens in killing variety? Who the hell said gold items are unwanted? Weird, because last time I checked the sell forum is crammed full of people buying/selling gold items.
Seriously stop screaming about the economy everytime an item drops below the 100k +15 ecto price mark.
xb0vv
Greens will always be perfect, but golds will always be more sought after because of their rareness and value.
Poor people will keep buying greens and rich people will keep buying golds just because they dont want to look like noobs, nothing will change.
Poor people will keep buying greens and rich people will keep buying golds just because they dont want to look like noobs, nothing will change.
Orinn
Given a choice, I think most people would take the perfect gold with a rare skin over the exact same weapon as a green. Greens are the generic version of golds: they're cheap, they perform just as well, but, well, everyone KNOWS they're mostly cheap to get. Most of my weapons are greens, but I have a few nice-skinned golds that i've found along the way, and to be honest, I'm far prouder of having the poisonous gemstone axe of defense than I am of my green axes, even though the gemstone axe isn't as effective with the bad mod on it...
What it comes down to is that instead of buying golds because they're the most useful weapons, people now buy golds as vanity items, or because the specific combination they want isn't available as a gold. There's nothing wrong withthe economy working this way, making good weapons available at a reasonable price, while still keeping the price of the "prestige" items a lot higher. The price drops you see are because there IS a cheaper alternative. People can buy a perfect weapon for cheap, or they can buy a perfect weapon with a shiny model for a lot more, but they don't HAVE to buy golds to get a max damage weapon.
What it comes down to is that instead of buying golds because they're the most useful weapons, people now buy golds as vanity items, or because the specific combination they want isn't available as a gold. There's nothing wrong withthe economy working this way, making good weapons available at a reasonable price, while still keeping the price of the "prestige" items a lot higher. The price drops you see are because there IS a cheaper alternative. People can buy a perfect weapon for cheap, or they can buy a perfect weapon with a shiny model for a lot more, but they don't HAVE to buy golds to get a max damage weapon.
DeathandtheHealing
green crystalline swords will never happen....
besides am i the only one who thinks crystalline swords are FUGLY AS HELL, seriously spray some windex on thoughs stuckers..
besides am i the only one who thinks crystalline swords are FUGLY AS HELL, seriously spray some windex on thoughs stuckers..
nytestalker
Greens are abundant, cheap, and perfect.
PvP interested players and those who dont have alot of time to devote to farming will be most interested.
Golds are rare, expensive, and drop < perfect.
PvE players who spend more than an average amount of time playing and those who wish to carry only "the rarest or rares" will be interested.
Dont worry, golds will always be sought after.
PvP interested players and those who dont have alot of time to devote to farming will be most interested.
Golds are rare, expensive, and drop < perfect.
PvE players who spend more than an average amount of time playing and those who wish to carry only "the rarest or rares" will be interested.
Dont worry, golds will always be sought after.
Bokocasso
The bare truth is that the only one that would want more greens with the really rare skins is a one that cannot afford a gold item. Asking for a green crystalline is rediculous. Just accept the fact that the idea of anyone being able to have a wepon for which rare variant some players have spent millions and millions of gold is outrageous. Some items do not deserve to have a green clone, they are pretty much worthless.
Fluffyx
Greens are greens. Golds are golds.
You can't compare the two.
Golds will always sell for more since they can be modded dyed and can have a lower req and a different skin.
Greens are always the same skin always the same color always the same mods, which cannot be changed.
There will always be a market for gold items since there is not a green item with the stats you may want for every item in the game.
You can't compare the two.
Golds will always sell for more since they can be modded dyed and can have a lower req and a different skin.
Greens are always the same skin always the same color always the same mods, which cannot be changed.
There will always be a market for gold items since there is not a green item with the stats you may want for every item in the game.
Misc Merik
surprised noone mentioned a green dwarven axe 
Xenex Xclame
I believe that as long both greens and golds keep getting added they will keep eachother balance, there are some greens that sell for high there are some that sell for nothing, same thing with golds.Dont think there is anything to worry about.
Samuel Dravis
I like greens. They (for me at least) have helped me get weapons that I would have otherwise had to pay quite a lot for. For example, with Kephket's Refuge the mods alone would have cost me 50k or more at the time I got it, had I tried to upgrade the collector staff. It actually cost me about 5k. However, being able to buy a green does not lessen my interest in gold items. The only thing doing that is their excessive cost.
Anakin The Paladin
I think greens are a way to get a nice weapon for cheap.Compare a green weapon to a gold one of the same stats,the gold one is sold for alot more.
Golds are now more of collector items and for the richer community of Guild Wars.
Golds are now more of collector items and for the richer community of Guild Wars.
Sereng Amaranth
Here's an illustration of Gold vs Green
standard skin staffs 10/10 --- 15-100k
Insightful Staff Head 5 energy --- 4-6k
Staff Wrapping of Enchanting 20% --- 8-10k
Galigord's Stone Staff --- 8-10k
This staff is 20/20 in earth and +5e w/ 20% longer enchants.
Would you want to pay up to 150k for a comparable gold staff?
standard skin staffs 10/10 --- 15-100k
Insightful Staff Head 5 energy --- 4-6k
Staff Wrapping of Enchanting 20% --- 8-10k
Galigord's Stone Staff --- 8-10k
This staff is 20/20 in earth and +5e w/ 20% longer enchants.
Would you want to pay up to 150k for a comparable gold staff?
The Herbalizer
I have bought ALOT of 10/10 staffs with low reqs and max dmg for under 20k....
Samuel Dravis
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I have bought ALOT of 10/10 staffs with low reqs and max dmg for under 20k....
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The Herbalizer
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~32k for a gold and upgrades is a significant difference from the green that you can get for 10k, especially to people who have no interest in farming.
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Stockholm
For me Greens are the weapons to customize and use, and the Golds are Investments to be sold when price is right.
Firefox78
I think they should make all greens in a different skin so we have cool greens and cool golds...
It should be much harder to get a green because the prices have drop totally insane like 5K for totem axe and 10k for almost every greens except a few...That's my experince.
It should be much harder to get a green because the prices have drop totally insane like 5K for totem axe and 10k for almost every greens except a few...That's my experince.
Skyy High
That's cause greens drop in the same place, so you can farm them endlessly.
And a green crystalline is never happening. Ever. It's the one sword that is actually ridiculously rare and expensive; ANet isn't dumb enough to piss off the entire upper echelon of players by introducing a green one.
And a green crystalline is never happening. Ever. It's the one sword that is actually ridiculously rare and expensive; ANet isn't dumb enough to piss off the entire upper echelon of players by introducing a green one.
Gun Pierson
Just the fact that people say golds instead of yellows is something to think about. There is something about golds that greens will never have. A gold item is dropped and authomatically rare. If it has a good mod and req, it's even more rare. Add a rare skin and you have an exceptional weapon. Greens are dropped by bosses, you know where they are. People farm them until prices drop or new greens come out.
I started with blues, moved on with greens and now I want to replace the greens with perfect rare skin golds I like. The search for affordable golds or for those ultimate pieces, keeps a lot of people hooked. It's part of the game.
off topic: More good gold caster item drops pls and less 2-3 cross over mods. the caster community is mainly using greens and collector's because 'playable' golds are a minority on the caster item market. Thank you.
I started with blues, moved on with greens and now I want to replace the greens with perfect rare skin golds I like. The search for affordable golds or for those ultimate pieces, keeps a lot of people hooked. It's part of the game.
off topic: More good gold caster item drops pls and less 2-3 cross over mods. the caster community is mainly using greens and collector's because 'playable' golds are a minority on the caster item market. Thank you.
Isaac Lunoa
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That's cause greens drop in the same place, so you can farm them endlessly.
And a green crystalline is never happening. Ever. It's the one sword that is actually ridiculously rare and expensive; ANet isn't dumb enough to piss off the entire upper echelon of players by introducing a green one. |
Savio
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off topic: More good gold caster item drops pls and less 2-3 cross over mods. the caster community is mainly using greens and collector's because 'playable' golds are a minority on the caster item market. Thank you.
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Cottage Pie
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Don't be too sure... When Victo's Blade was released, the Shadowblade was the most coveted skin in the game. (It had only dropped in the beta.)
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I thought they were all removed from the game (even ones in peoples storage, etc) after the beta?