Gold Items Destroyed: Their Future?

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LuckyGiant
LuckyGiant
Krytan Explorer
#1
Ok, now FIRST don't get me wrong, I love greens all my characters run around with a green or two.

Now for a bit of discussion, just wanting a bit of a review after the greens were added months ago. I think variety is good in a game, but I think greens will end up destroying the golds economy (Now I releaize this is what was intended when they were introduced, but bear with me)

Greens are perfect, regularly have nice skins, nice req, cannot be dyed which is a shame I think, but apart from the rich or obsessive compulsive (no offense intended!) there really there is no need for golds. I think this is a bad thing because as I said variety is good, less and less people seem to be using golds (just an observation from people calling their weapons when I'm in a party) I like what they have done to the economy and green hunting, elite missions with a purpose etc, but I liked the good old days where everyone in the party was weilding something different.

If we look into the future say after nightfall or even chapter 4 there will be an even greater variety of greens with different mods to suit our liking so there will always be a green for the job, at the moment golds are still needed to produce weapons with certain mod combinations, but in the future will they still be needed?

I enjoy my gold drops, exciting when the occassionaly drop, but when you're holding the perfect green item you know its not going to be useful to yourself and unlikely to anyone else unless it's a rare skin, is this where the gold market is heading?

Whats everyone's thoughts/opinions on this?
Sekkira
Sekkira
Forge Runner
#2
This speculation that greens would destroy the gold market was made when SF was released. It hasn't come anywhere close to pass.
Knightsaber Sith
Knightsaber Sith
Furnace Stoker
#3
Already, the only golds that are really worth anything are the ones with a rare skin and all perfect mods. There will always be a market for those.
It would be funny if they made a green with the crystalline sword skin.......
Jumping Is Uselss
Jumping Is Uselss
Jungle Guide
#4
I'd like to see a green crystalline sword with a decent mod because it will drive the outrageous prices of crystalline down.
LuckyGiant
LuckyGiant
Krytan Explorer
#5
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Originally Posted by Sekkira
This speculation that greens would destroy the gold market was made when SF was released. It hasn't come anywhere close to pass.

Umm actually like a week or two after the greens were first introduced they crushed the markets prices (which was good because they were getting insane,
150k+ for sword pommel +30hp etc)

I'm talking currently and in the future though as more greens are introduced with future chapters. Whenever I'm in the main cities I no longer really see people wanting to sell 14>50 stuff unless its a rare skin etc, the golds market used to be crawling with these affordable weapons even after greens were first introduced, it seems to have really diminished and I'm wondering will it get worse still when there is a vast pool of greens to choose from in the future.

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Originally Posted by Jumping Is Uselss
I'd like to see a green crystalline sword with a decent mod because it will drive the outrageous prices of crystalline down.
Hehe, that would be nice my warrior would love it, but then it would probably no longer be the most desired with 50% of warriors running round with one
Zakarr
Zakarr
Jungle Guide
#6
Golds can have all possible modifier combinations, they can be dyed at least partially and they still have some rare skins which none green has. I don't know what greens Nightfall and future updates will hold but Anet probably want to keep golds as the ultimate items. I really hope so.
Kyosuke
Kyosuke
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
I love golds b/c I can do whatever i want with them... If they add alot more greens and butcher teh economy alot of people will be pissed. I don't really care, just so long as I can continue to make weapons the way i want, with the skin i want and the color i want.
Hyper Cutter
Hyper Cutter
Desert Nomad
#8
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jumping Is Uselss
I'd like to see a green crystalline sword with a decent mod because it will drive the outrageous prices of crystalline down.
I second that.
Taken
Taken
Wilds Pathfinder
#9
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I'd like to see a green crystalline sword with a decent mod because it will drive the outrageous prices of crystalline down.
I wouldn't, unless it only dropped from chests without keys. I think it's neat that there's still one sword that's truely hard to get.

Besides, the price of crystallines has dropped enough that they are quite affordable anyway.
Venom4112
Venom4112
Frost Gate Guardian
#10
Well look at it this way: Whats worth more? A Victos axe, or a Max req 9 15^50 sickle? The sickle would sell for 15 million, while the victos sell for 20k

Golds arent going anywhere
Priceykins
Priceykins
Frost Gate Guardian
#11
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Originally Posted by Venom4112
Well look at it this way: Whats worth more? A Victos axe, or a Max req 9 15^50 sickle? The sickle would sell for 15 million, while the victos sell for 20k

Golds arent going anywhere
The only reason a sickle liek that would go for that amount of money is because so far, a max sickle has not been discovered(apart from the victos), while there must be 1000s of victos ont he market, hence there is alot more supply of them than there is of max sickles.

However, I would love to see a gold crystaline, as I love that skin, and with HoH being the way that it is, its very hard to get a group there if you have no rank, so how are us pvers gonna get a crystaline????? By bringing in a green one thats how

The greens market though has been driving the gold market down, as players now dont need to buy a 15^50 axe, then a zealos mod, and a +30hp mod, which would cost ~100k+(depending on skin), they can jus buy a wings axe for about 30kish(what I got mine for), which means players trying to sell a gold axe with the same mods have cheaper competiton.

I agree with the greens market though, as it means casual players can still get good weapons, without having to spend a long time saving up for them, or buying ebay gold for them.
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Rathcail
Jungle Guide
#12
What's so bad about having affordable weapons anyway? Is it so horrible to party with someone in PvE who has max upgrades in his weapon?
Venom4112
Venom4112
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
Ok, lets try another example with a relatively common skin.

Victos blade or Shadow Blade req 9 15^50 3/1 +30. The shadow blade will sell for 100k~, while victos blade sells for 7k?
unienaule
unienaule
I dunt even get "Retired"
#14
Golds will stay popular for two reasons.
1) You can customize them with any combination of mods you want.
2) They are shiny, and I for one likes me my shinies.
Lichtenberg
Lichtenberg
Furnace Stoker
#15
I think a way to keep the prices of gold items if they changed the skins of the greens to like collector weapons, even though they would have perfect mods , they would look pretty fugly

or at least change the skins of greens of rare skins, like razerstone and rago's flame staff or victos bulwark
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Samuel Dravis
Lion's Arch Merchant
#16
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Originally Posted by Venom4112
Ok, lets try another example with a relatively common skin.

Victos blade or Shadow Blade req 9 15^50 3/1 +30. The shadow blade will sell for 100k~, while victos blade sells for 7k?
Doesn't that mean that lots of people are happy with Victo's Blade, since the price is so low?
The Herbalizer
The Herbalizer
<3 Ecto
#17
I havnt bought more than one or two perfect factions weapons as they are not rare and are not particularly nice looking. If Nightfall items are the same i.e. nothing particularly rare then I wont buy many. Virtually every perfect item I own is from Tyria. There are only so many Tyrian items you can own before there is nothing left to buy and if the future chapters have a lack of rare items then I will not be purchasing any more gold items. I am not the only person who feels like this, some people refuse to buy Factions items. Anyways Greens never ruined gold items for me as I only buy gold items. They can drive the prices of golds down but I will always buy gold items.

Wow @ people saying they want Green Crystallines to ruin the price of them. Just because you cant buy a perfect one doesnt mean Anet should destroy the price of them. Just buy a crap purple one for 50k and customize it as not many people customize perfect ones so yours will deal more dmg.
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eternal pho
Banned
#18
Ever since the greens came out, people didn't buy as much gold items.
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ChildeOfMalkav
Frost Gate Guardian
#19
Why is it that everytime prices drop, people scream "Oh no the economy is ruined!!!!!"

How is keeping prices ridiculously high a good economy? How is putting greens in killing variety? Who the hell said gold items are unwanted? Weird, because last time I checked the sell forum is crammed full of people buying/selling gold items.

Seriously stop screaming about the economy everytime an item drops below the 100k +15 ecto price mark.
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xb0vv
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
Greens will always be perfect, but golds will always be more sought after because of their rareness and value.
Poor people will keep buying greens and rich people will keep buying golds just because they dont want to look like noobs, nothing will change.