After Chapter 4 we will have 6 new classes....

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Horseman Of War
Horseman Of War
Desert Nomad
#1
not that it matters for those of us playing already and buying the expansions...


but after we have 6 more classes, do you think they might do some kind of mini-expansion (suppliment) for those people who are new or never got factions/nightfall etc?


This is only a theory of course...

Say they call it GW: PvP Suppliment, or GW: Class Pack... or some crap like that.

They could take all th assassin, paragon, dervish, ritualist skills (plus chapter 4s classes) and essentially create a new (core)

Maybe for those who are only interested in pvp... or heck, even ADD some skills that everyones crying for... that way the people who already use the classes will have a reason to buy it too.


They could designate the chapter to be HUGE on pvp... add like a dozen guild halls, a dozen random arenas, some new zaishens or some kind of HoH options.

A lot of people in my guild dont really get into PvP as much as I do (id say im 50/50) but some people do nothing BUT pvp... id be interested to hear opinions from a broader audience (two of my guildmates told me they dont see it happening)
HolyHawk
HolyHawk
Krytan Explorer
#2
I'm guessing we will see some interesting stuff on the mall soon enough.
Horseman Of War
Horseman Of War
Desert Nomad
#3
you mean like "ATTN: Please input credit card to use Assassins, Dervishes, etc" to get the class added thru the GWstore?


I could definately see that happening- prolly for $9.99 a pop

Id say ritualists are woth 10 bucks maybe... they are really really awesome... for those who dont have Factions, I mean...
TiNkLeR
TiNkLeR
Krytan Explorer
#4
Dude GW: 4 its not going to have new characters. Its going to have dif races -.-
Omega X
Omega X
Ninja Unveiler
#5
Classes are attached to the Campaigns that they came from.

They will most likely sell the Chapters and NOT the classes.
Horseman Of War
Horseman Of War
Desert Nomad
#6
in another year, we will see... like i said, i buy all chapters anyways... but we all know how video game companies like our money. Although, omega, Im kind of thinking you are right... hopefully at least.

Ive never been one to complain that "0 noes my assassin wont get new skills in nightfall!2", but lots and lots of people do complain about it... and despite what some people say... over time, arenanet DOES actually do some of the things that people want.

Im just saying, when arena net wants to make some extra cash, they might do something like this.
People who enjoy (as I do) the pve aspect of each chapter will not have to worry about it whether anet does this or not... simply for people interested in PvP exclusively.


and on new races- i highly doubt it. =.= but i did hear a rumor long ago, that they might implement a kind of ascension in the future that will change your character to LOOK like another race although one person said its gonna be 'pick the quest for the race you want' and other people are saying 'it depends on your class to which race you can become'
Omega X
Omega X
Ninja Unveiler
#7
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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
in another year, we will see... like i said, i buy all chapters anyways... but we all know how video game companies like our money. Although, omega, Im kind of thinking you are right... hopefully at least.
A year isn't here yet.

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Ive never been one to complain that "0 noes my assassin wont get new skills in nightfall!2", but lots and lots of people do complain about it... and despite what some people say... over time, arenanet DOES actually do some of the things that people want.

Im just saying, when arena net wants to make some extra cash, they might do something like this.
People who enjoy (as I do) the pve aspect of each chapter will not have to worry about it whether anet does this or not... simply for people interested in PvP exclusively.
IF ANET wants to make money, then they will sell CHAPTERS and not Classes at a reduced price.

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and on new races- i highly doubt it. =.= but i did hear a rumor long ago, that they might implement a kind of ascension in the future that will change your character to LOOK like another race although one person said its gonna be 'pick the quest for the race you want' and other people are saying 'it depends on your class to which race you can become'
Races were talked about but not with the method that you stated.
SpeedyKQ
SpeedyKQ
Krytan Explorer
#8
Anything that I'd have to buy to keep up, that isn't part of the two chapters a year for $50 each, would make me unhappy.
Mordakai
Mordakai
Grotto Attendant
#9
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Originally Posted by Omega X
IF ANET wants to make money, then they will sell CHAPTERS and not Classes at a reduced price.
They do that already!
Horseman Of War
Horseman Of War
Desert Nomad
#10
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Originally Posted by SpeedyKQ
Anything that I'd have to buy to keep up, that isn't part of the two chapters a year for $50 each, would make me unhappy.

i was trying to say, ofr people who didnt already get the extra chapters... it wouldnt affect any of us... but it would allow pvp-players the chance to use the races without pve

kinda like the 'special edition'-> we dont need it if we have core, but its there as an option for newbies to the game.
floppinghog
floppinghog
Wilds Pathfinder
#11
theres only 6 core classes.

each chapter expands from those and adds a new 2 classes, which are only supported in that particular chapter.

more chapters you own the more "unique" characters can perform,
example: paragon/assassin


anyway calm the heck down and accept the fact that theres no such thing as expansions (expanisons are required to keep playing and up to date)
each chapter is able to stand alone (since they all include the core classes).
Horseman Of War
Horseman Of War
Desert Nomad
#12
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Originally Posted by floppinghog
theres only 6 core classes.

each chapter expands from those and adds a new 2 classes, which are only supported in that particular chapter.

more chapters you own the more "unique" characters can perform,
example: paragon/assassin


anyway calm the heck down and accept the fact that theres no such thing as expansions (expanisons are required to keep playing and up to date)
each chapter is able to stand alone (since they all include the core classes).
if you read any of my posts you know that i know this.

expansion=chapter call it what you will... im not going to debate a trifle little concept as that.

flop- i dont need to calm down, im practically asleep right now (boring day at the office)

Its kind of a moot discussion we have here, as *almost everyone posting in this (particular) forum already have GW1 and 2... and the cheese-eaters like me who are eating up these pathetically low quality pics of nightfall will most likely get that one, too.

So, yes, Onlyon X a year isnt here yet. And your so-called debate is your one-liners? I think its more of a case with what you disagree with.

But just like any other game series with multiple (chapters, expansions, whatever the kids are calling it these days) ... Eventually when sales start to drop, they will introduce items into the market to help increase sales.

(yeah I have Morrowind and the Expansions for that, but duh im not going to buy the GotY edition!)


So just for the records.. you guys are all saying that ANet will NEVER introduce a way for people, a year or two from now who want to try GW for the first time, to get any kind of pvp content without getting the whole chapter?

And selling 'reduced price chapters' is something that is store-by-store... not ANet. ANet has the money before its shipped out, when you pay at the store, the money re-compinsates the money used for purchasing the inventory. This is why even with no box, no middleman, no CD, you still pay the full retail price if you order from the GWStore.

Im not going to explain every little detail to you guys, and your arguements, while valid on some points, are only speculation with equal merit to the topic of the thread.

Argueably, yes- getting the Chapter *should* be the only way to play the 'special' classes. But if there is a strong 'want' by the community.. or even if they just FEEL like it... they will do this.


I have read each of your opinions on this matter, so unless you have something new to say quit giving me such a hard time over something so stupid. Its not like im saying OMG LET ME BUY A XODIC DAGGER ON TEH STORE or OMG MINI PET IS TEH LEET LEMME GET ONE!

I think you guys are just bored and looking for someone to flame.


NEXT?
lennymon
lennymon
Forge Runner
#13
They won't. Here's why: 1 chapter - x dollars, 2 chapters - 2x dollars, 3 chapters - 3x dollars, compilation = no more chapter sales!
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Ninna
Desert Nomad
#14
even NCSOFT lowers prices

a year ago, Prophecies cost $50.00 from the PlayNC store

Now,
a Prophecies account can be purchased for $40.00 from NCSoft
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milan
Desert Nomad
#15
A novel idea, but if they ever did it then they should be prepared for the - I don't pvp so I want cheap chapter which only contains the pve side of the game.

Anet are constantly trying to further integrate pve and pvp player to ensure that it doesn't become two seperate games, offering a pack such as you mentioned would widen that gap I believe.
IrishCatholicNewYorker
IrishCatholicNewYorker
Academy Page
#16
im a little worried about the room on my computer with all these new chapters. The more chapters you add the more laggg you have this worries me a bit .
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Cherno
Forge Runner
#17
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Originally Posted by IrishCatholicNewYorker
im a little worried about the room on my computer with all these new chapters. The more chapters you add the more laggg you have this worries me a bit .
That's not true at all. The amount of lag you experience can be attributed to a number of factors, not one of them is the number of chapters you have on your computer.

Lag can be caused by:

Subpar network/internet throughput

Amount of available resources you have on your computer (swaping and virtual memory, and if you think having these expensions is filling up your harddrive then you have problems with the standard sizes of harddrives available these days)

The game itself could be causing lag due to complex maps (the city) or amount of action going on the screen at the moment. But even this isn't attributed to the number of chapters since the map you are on is instantiated.

Also, there is no guarantee that chapter 4 will give us any new classes. I believe it has been officially said that not every chapter will include new classes.
gamecube187
gamecube187
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
They could take all th assassin, paragon, dervish, ritualist skills (plus chapter 4s classes) and essentially create a new (core)

Maybe for those who are only interested in pvp... or heck, even ADD some skills that everyones crying for... that way the people who already use the classes will have a reason to buy it too.

They could designate the chapter to be HUGE on pvp... add like a dozen guild halls, a dozen random arenas, some new zaishens or some kind of HoH options.
I doubt there will be new core professions, or that they will make the special professions core ones.

It would also be really hard to make a pvp only chapter, because things like new arenas and guild halls or new zaishens probably will have to be for everyone, not just the people that bought the chapter.

Plus like someone said, that would probably just widen the gap of pve and pvp which seems to be teh opposite of what arena net is trying to do.

I could definitly see the shop adding chapter specific professions though.
actionjack
actionjack
Furnace Stoker
#19
I would see that happening for PvP, with several benefit for both dev and players.

But won't apply that to PvE, for various reasons.
Angel Netherborn
Angel Netherborn
Krytan Explorer
#20
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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
They could take all th assassin, paragon, dervish, ritualist skills (plus chapter 4s classes) and essentially create a new (core)

Maybe for those who are only interested in pvp... or heck, even ADD some skills that everyones crying for... that way the people who already use the classes will have a reason to buy it too.
I've been thinking about this possibility too, on the profs I mean. But no, they won't create a new core, but I'm thinking that if chapter 4 introduced 2 more professions, then chapter 5 might just contain the 6 special professions and 0 core. That way, they get to add more skills to these non-core professions, and probably a way to cut down on the need to introduce more and more skills for the same 6 professions.

And on the selling of professions, yea, it's somewhat unlikely, given that they'd rather you buy the whole chapter, but it's possible in the future, depending on demand. With the dynamic nature of an mmo, you can't expect them to adamantly stick to one business model and refuse to adapt.