I switch through ym chars alot, be it looking for items or just switching to the profession needed for a gvg or whatever that I have already rolled.
Personally, it becomes a hastle when I am required to re-enter my password everytime Iwish to change chars. I think ANet should implement a type of "Switch Characters" option instead of just logging off, then signing back in.
Just something me and the guildies have talked about, just looking to see what everyone else thinks, so, what you think?
**New** Add a switch character button.
Chilly Ress
zamial
im pretty sure this was suggested b4.it would make life a little easier but the security is weakened in the process........
Chilly Ress
Ah, sorry, but search is not what it used to be...imoI am sure they could find a way to do it though? Maybe I am wrong, not great with computers in the first place. But, I really would like it!
Puebert
/signed
I can't believe they didn't have this 1st thing. Annoys me when I have a item on such and such character and have to put it in storage and log in again to get into other character to take the item.
Its not needed, but makes it a little quicker.
I can't believe they didn't have this 1st thing. Annoys me when I have a item on such and such character and have to put it in storage and log in again to get into other character to take the item.
Its not needed, but makes it a little quicker.
King Kong
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Personally, it becomes a hastle when I am required to re-enter my password everytime Iwish to change chars. I think ANet should implement a type of "Switch Characters" option instead of just logging off, then signing back in.
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Terra Xin
there are some security issues with allowing this feature, I can't remember what they were. Something about, if your hacked into mid-game, the person can only take items from that single character only.
vinegrower
it is not about being hacked, as much as it is about internet cafe's. If you were playing at an internet cafe and forgot to log off, all that they could do to you is empty the one character's invintory and storage. They would not be able to get to the rest of your characters or delete any characters. Nor could they do anything to your account such as change region, mess with keys, change email and password, etc.
It doesn't protect you from being hacked, because in that case, they have your email and password, so they can relog-in as much as they like, change passwords, etc.
this works beautifully. And if I'm not mistaken, it can help prevent keyloggers from stealing your info since you dont' have to type in your password. Though I could be wrong. (feel free to correct me if I am)
It doesn't protect you from being hacked, because in that case, they have your email and password, so they can relog-in as much as they like, change passwords, etc.
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Put "-password yourpassword" without quotes in your guild wars shortcut, then when you press F12 it auto logs in
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starlitesunset
i thikn the reason why we need to log off is due to the server loading up the character information, so a switch char wudnt be as effective loading up a char then a login and log out
sykoone
As far as keyloggers, no, they can't get your password if you use the -password switch. However, using this switch bypasses the entire reason for having to completely log out to switch characters. Perhaps if they put an option in the game itself, in the area where you manage access keys and such, to enable fast character switching. That way, if you're on a private computer, you know you won't have to worry about the security feature, and can switch without disconnecting to the server. And if you're at an internet cafe, you can leave the option disabled, and keep your account secure.
I'd much rather simply have a drop down box to select a character to switch to than logging out and waiting to reconnect.
I'd much rather simply have a drop down box to select a character to switch to than logging out and waiting to reconnect.
Knightsaber Sith
This sounds like more laziness. There's no problem with logging to switch characters.
EternalTempest
/signed
(but I do use the password switch to get aroudn that myself).
(but I do use the password switch to get aroudn that myself).
Leonof
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This sounds like more laziness. There's no problem with logging to switch characters.
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RTSFirebat
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agreed. It takes like 10seconds to switch chars and I have no idea why people would have problems with that. It's so simple I don't even notice it, I just log, type PW then switch. No real effort whatsoever. If you have been switching chars for that long, I really don't think it should be noticable.
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Then why are we all on computers? *Gasp!* they save a lot of time as well by pretty much running the whole world!
Anyways this has been suggested before, and it is a ok idea. But I think the logout and log back in again is ok.
But next time use the search function or check the forum sticky.
bigwig
to be fair i don't think this is in the index of ideas, not the first post anyway. i took a quick look through. maybe i missed it.
llsektorll
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I switch through ym chars alot, be it looking for items or just switching to the profession needed for a gvg or whatever that I have already rolled.
Personally, it becomes a hastle when I am required to re-enter my password everytime Iwish to change chars. I think ANet should implement a type of "Switch Characters" option instead of just logging off, then signing back in. Just something me and the guildies have talked about, just looking to see what everyone else thinks, so, what you think? |
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Guild Wars Command Line Switches 2.0.5 Aug 08th, 2006 This is a community project pulling from various source's. See credits on the bottom of this post. How to alter the shortcut 1)Right-click the Guild Wars icon. 2)Select 'Properties'. 3)Select the 'Shortcut' tab. 4)In the 'Target' field... Example "C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -switch1 -switch2 -switch3 Switches -password Automatically fills in the password Usage: "C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe" -password=***** Where ***** = your current password |
freekedoutfish
All they need do is make it so when you click "log out" or "exit" or which ever button is it in your menu bar.
It takes you back to your character selection instead of all the way out.
It takes you back to your character selection instead of all the way out.
vinegrower
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All they need do is make it so when you click "log out" or "exit" or which ever button is it in your menu bar.
It takes you back to your character selection instead of all the way out. |
I swear people dont read anything past the first post anymore.
Chilly Ress
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Put "-password yourpassword" without quotes in your guild wars shortcut, then when you press F12 it auto logs in
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I know it sounds lazy, but, my password is very complex, hard to type.
Curse You
I guess not all of us have the ability to type our password (no matter how complex) in 2 seconds.
It's simple really, either learn how to type, or use the shortcut.
It's simple really, either learn how to type, or use the shortcut.
Chilly Ress
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I guess not all of us have the ability to type our password (no matter how complex) in 2 seconds.
It's simple really, either learn how to type, or use the shortcut. |
Former Ruling
Its a hassle most of us can deal with for the security it gives...
Remember, One ENTIRE region that plays the game mostly plays from Public places..This is a WELCOMED hassle for them, because you can be forgetful and not totally get your account raped.
Remember, One ENTIRE region that plays the game mostly plays from Public places..This is a WELCOMED hassle for them, because you can be forgetful and not totally get your account raped.
Loviatar
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you can copy/paste as well you know.
ctrl c for copy
ctrl v for paste
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What if Im not, which is, some of the time.
I know it sounds lazy, but, my password is very complex, hard to type. [/QUOTE] |
ctrl c for copy
ctrl v for paste
silvershock
Me and my guild members had a discussion about this and we all agreed this would be handy.
25 times /signed
25 times /signed
freekedoutfish
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as already stated, it doesn't do this due to security issues for people on a public computer. If you want this to happen on your personal computer, read the post directly above yours on how to make it happen.
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"Put "-password yourpassword" without quotes in your guild wars shortcut, then when you press F12 it auto logs in"
My understanding of that code, at the time I wrote that, was that it wouldnt fix what I suggested.
The reason I thought that is because the code is wrote inside the properties of the GW.exe file.
Meaning it only works when the GW.exe is first executed.
So yes it would make the first login faster, because when its first executed it sends the password and username you wrote to the login screen.
But I didnt think it would work if your changing character by logging out and then back in, because the GW.exe is already executed and it isnt re-sending the password and username.
I might be wrong. Ill try it tonight and if it works then YEH!
freekedoutfish
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I guess not all of us have the ability to type our password (no matter how complex) in 2 seconds.
It's simple really, either learn how to type, or use the shortcut. |
For instance disabled persons.
They might find it easier to type single keys for moving and target and skills via some device or a joystick, but typing a list of characters like a username and password could be harder.
So thats one reason it could be a hassle to have to keep-entering your details.
Its true they could just use the code inside the executable properties, but whos to say their computer literate or have enough mobility to do complex operations like that.
Just a idea.
vinegrower
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Im not IT illiterate, and I read the post stating
"Put "-password yourpassword" without quotes in your guild wars shortcut, then when you press F12 it auto logs in" My understanding of that code, at the time I wrote that, was that it wouldnt fix what I suggested. The reason I thought that is because the code is wrote inside the properties of the GW.exe file. Meaning it only works when the GW.exe is first executed. So yes it would make the first login faster, because when its first executed it sends the password and username you wrote to the login screen. But I didnt think it would work if your changing character by logging out and then back in, because the GW.exe is already executed and it isnt re-sending the password and username. I might be wrong. Ill try it tonight and if it works then YEH! |
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There could be people who find it hard to type words or long lists of characters into a keyboard.
For instance disabled persons. They might find it easier to type single keys for moving and target and skills via some device or a joystick, but typing a list of characters like a username and password could be harder. So thats one reason it could be a hassle to have to keep-entering your details. Its true they could just use the code inside the executable properties, but whos to say their computer literate or have enough mobility to do complex operations like that. Just a idea. |
Even the most computer illiterate person could follow the directions to add this to the shortcut. It is much less complicated to right click, select properties, then type -password "********" then it is to play guild wars. And if they don't have enough mobility to do that, then how are they playing the game? This is hardly a "complex operation" when compared to playing a MMO.
Kaguya
The -password-switch trick isn't very safe, it takes less effort to check your password from the shortcut itself than plant a keylogger, dumdydum.
That's the reason I don't use it, anyways. :b
That's the reason I don't use it, anyways. :b
Chilly Ress
Well, I started using the "-password" trick on my home computer, and it works great! Thanks! Just paranoid about someone stealing acc. somehow now...
vinegrower
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The -password-switch trick isn't very safe, it takes less effort to check your password from the shortcut itself than plant a keylogger, dumdydum.
That's the reason I don't use it, anyways. :b |
freekedoutfish
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But my point about disabeled people playing GWs or any MMO is valid. Who are we to say they shouldnt be playing a computer game because of they may have disabilities.
I understand what your saying and im sure it would be hard or near impossible for certain disabled persons to play such games.
But that doesnt mean they wouldnt want to or try to.
I think I was originaly replying to someone saying it was lazey to use the -password code instead of just typing in their details everytime, and making the point that it could make life easier for some people.
Such as disabled person.
But to my knowledge there are ways in which handicapped person can still use computers.
Either using head mounted pointers to press keys, or joysticks to control movement, and wheelchair mounted pads which are set up to certain keys on the keyboard.
I actually dont know why I made the comment...
"Its true they could just use the code inside the executable properties, but whos to say their computer literate or have enough mobility to do complex operations like that."
I think I lost my line of thought because I was at work.
If you ignore that comment, then I was trying to say it would be of a benefit to use that code.
vinegrower
I never said that they shouldn't be playing computer games. I'm saying that if they are so dissabled that they cannot enter in a password, they are probably too dissabled to play the game. If they are able enough to play the game, then they would have no problems entering in a password.
Unless you can provide proof of some condition that makes it impossible to enter in a simple password, yet still able to use the keyboard and mouse (or other input devices) with enough coordination to be able to play a complex game such as guild wars, then your point remain invalid.
I mean, how did they install the game? How did they enter the cdkey and registration information? How do they communicate with people to form a group or sell items? All of that takes considerable typing, and what ever input device they use to do all that will be more than able to enter a password.
Unless you can provide proof of some condition that makes it impossible to enter in a simple password, yet still able to use the keyboard and mouse (or other input devices) with enough coordination to be able to play a complex game such as guild wars, then your point remain invalid.
I mean, how did they install the game? How did they enter the cdkey and registration information? How do they communicate with people to form a group or sell items? All of that takes considerable typing, and what ever input device they use to do all that will be more than able to enter a password.
BahamutKaiser
Evading a security feature just to reduce character switching by 3 seconds is dumb. It is a simple quick security feature which takes all of 3 or 4 seconds to handle, and you want to remove it for what? so you can save 4 seconds?
Why don't we take the locks off your car door so you can get it in faster, that is basicly what you asked for. It may take you a second to unlock your car, but it makes it far more difficult for people to break into, do you see the logic?
And since you do have the option to "unlock" your "car", this isn't even a topic, it is a repeat, moderators should have listed the alternative and closed this thread. Anet has informed us that they intend to leave this in as a security feature, and there is an alternative, that leaves no reason at all to change anything.
Why don't we take the locks off your car door so you can get it in faster, that is basicly what you asked for. It may take you a second to unlock your car, but it makes it far more difficult for people to break into, do you see the logic?
And since you do have the option to "unlock" your "car", this isn't even a topic, it is a repeat, moderators should have listed the alternative and closed this thread. Anet has informed us that they intend to leave this in as a security feature, and there is an alternative, that leaves no reason at all to change anything.
Sir_Ace_Manslayer
dude simply jus push f12 enter and it takes u right to the screen to enter password and jus make a shorter pass word i do it fine i only have a 7charracter combo and i fly threw it
leeky baby
if they can keep the security the same
/signed
/signed
freekedoutfish
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I never said that they shouldn't be playing computer games. I'm saying that if they are so dissabled that they cannot enter in a password, they are probably too dissabled to play the game. If they are able enough to play the game, then they would have no problems entering in a password.
Unless you can provide proof of some condition that makes it impossible to enter in a simple password, yet still able to use the keyboard and mouse (or other input devices) with enough coordination to be able to play a complex game such as guild wars, then your point remain invalid. I mean, how did they install the game? How did they enter the cdkey and registration information? How do they communicate with people to form a group or sell items? All of that takes considerable typing, and what ever input device they use to do all that will be more than able to enter a password. |
But to answer part of your question, purely from my perspective and my opinion and not based on any hard-facts:
A friend, family member or a care worker could have installed all the software and input CD-KEYs, or set up the -password code in the executable.
As for the idea that GWs would be too complicated to control, I disagree.
With the technology they have today such as touch pads, rolling mice and joysticks. All of which can be installed into an electric wheelchair.
There is no reason they couldnt assign those devices to activate or control certain keys or movements on a computer and within a computer game.
It might not be a perfect idea, but id like to be optomistic in believing that not everything is out of reach of disabelled persons.
But if you disagree thats fine. Difference of opinion.
vinegrower
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Well im hardly an expert on particular disabilities and I cant admit to knowing anyone personally who is disabeled physically in anyway.
But to answer part of your question, purely from my perspective and my opinion and not based on any hard-facts: A friend, family member or a care worker could have installed all the software and input CD-KEYs, or set up the -password code in the executable. As for the idea that GWs would be too complicated to control, I disagree. With the technology they have today such as touch pads, rolling mice and joysticks. All of which can be installed into an electric wheelchair. There is no reason they couldnt assign those devices to activate or control certain keys or movements on a computer and within a computer game. It might not be a perfect idea, but id like to be optomistic in believing that not everything is out of reach of disabelled persons. But if you disagree thats fine. Difference of opinion. |
Here, since you are going off your opinion, and not off any facts, I'll link you to some. SwitchXS is a input device that allows people that are quadriplegic use the computer with amazing efficinecy. This link will take you to some videos of people using this. As you can see, they are able to BOTH type and play a game quite easily. The entering of a password is not going to prevent them from playing the game, since the device that will allow them to play the game will allow them to type the password.
freekedoutfish
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You don't seem to be getting my point. I totally agree that there are ways for disabled persons to use the computer. Computers are the perfect tool for a diabled person to comunicate and participate in the world in ways that are impossible without them. My point is that those tools that enable them to use the computer with enough controll to play a game, also give them enough control to type and enter in a simple password. If they are using imput devices capeable of enabling them to play complicated games, those devices would also enable them to enter in a password, and even type messages.
Here, since you are going off your opinion, and not off any facts, I'll link you to some. SwitchXS is a input device that allows people that are quadriplegic use the computer with amazing efficinecy. This link will take you to some videos of people using this. As you can see, they are able to BOTH type and play a game quite easily. The entering of a password is not going to prevent them from playing the game, since the device that will allow them to play the game will allow them to type the password. |
I agree they could use the same devices to input words aswell, but the entire thing stemmed from one arguement.
So we're both in agreement.