+15 -5 energy weapons on a warrior...good or bad?
vabus
whats ur opinion on weapons like these? do u think buyin weapons with this dmg mod are worth it even if it does reduce energy or should i just get somethin thats 15^50 for my warrior?
Xaero Gouki Kriegor
i personaly dont like any 15% always damage weapons,
heres my reasons,
first the -1 hp, this one is hard to counter, with a vampiric mod, you cant even make up for the -2 hp, only way to counter it is using monk enchantments or some annoying upkeep of some type, with a healing signet occasionaly,
as for the -1 energy ones, that is probaly the most nastiest of them all, could probaly get a zealous blade and make it where you can at least have normal energy gain, which would be -2 energy and 1 energy per second = effectiveness of 2 pips,
the -10 armor while attacking is to me a suicidal weapon, the -10 armor, i think should be kept to the ranger's bow, warriors are up front, leeroying with a weapon, they dont need more armor deduction, only you can afford it with legionaire,
as for the -5e, i dont think it is as bad as the other conditions, only though, it will kill a shock warrior's energy faster, you can counter this with some glad peices, but still, if your playing shock, that -5 e is gonna make the shock hurt you more, but all else, the -5 e condition might be the best out of the 15% always bunch,
personaly, if i was you, and needed damage bonus while below and above 15%, i would go with a stance weapon, and pick a cheap stance like tiger stance, flurry or etc to keep up the damage mod, or swap weapons in mid battle, its wise to have a few other damage bonus weapons to take advantage of the situation, like a 20% while under 50, or 20% whiled hexed, and just save up for 15^50
but if your not planning on playing shock war much, go ahead and go for the -5e
heres my reasons,
first the -1 hp, this one is hard to counter, with a vampiric mod, you cant even make up for the -2 hp, only way to counter it is using monk enchantments or some annoying upkeep of some type, with a healing signet occasionaly,
as for the -1 energy ones, that is probaly the most nastiest of them all, could probaly get a zealous blade and make it where you can at least have normal energy gain, which would be -2 energy and 1 energy per second = effectiveness of 2 pips,
the -10 armor while attacking is to me a suicidal weapon, the -10 armor, i think should be kept to the ranger's bow, warriors are up front, leeroying with a weapon, they dont need more armor deduction, only you can afford it with legionaire,
as for the -5e, i dont think it is as bad as the other conditions, only though, it will kill a shock warrior's energy faster, you can counter this with some glad peices, but still, if your playing shock, that -5 e is gonna make the shock hurt you more, but all else, the -5 e condition might be the best out of the 15% always bunch,
personaly, if i was you, and needed damage bonus while below and above 15%, i would go with a stance weapon, and pick a cheap stance like tiger stance, flurry or etc to keep up the damage mod, or swap weapons in mid battle, its wise to have a few other damage bonus weapons to take advantage of the situation, like a 20% while under 50, or 20% whiled hexed, and just save up for 15^50
but if your not planning on playing shock war much, go ahead and go for the -5e
Kobe#2
It depends on your build.
I get the most use out of a +15% while in a stance, personally. It's cheaper, and just as effective as 15^50 with my builds.
I get the most use out of a +15% while in a stance, personally. It's cheaper, and just as effective as 15^50 with my builds.
Arkantos
If your warrior uses none to little energy, then 15/-5 is fine.
A Leprechaun
i have a hammer sword and axe i think they are 14^50, 13^50 and 13^50... i think and they are really cheap and i dont see that there would be much difference in 1-2% extra damage so i would always go **^50 as it is pretty much always useful even if you dont use stances enchantments blah blah blah
~A Leprechaun~
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IllusiveMind
I agree with Kobe, +15% (stance) are very useful and cheap.
makosi
My heavy adrenal builds will use a +15 -5 weapon because energy is in abundance anyway. Otherwise its a Zealous 15>50.
cataphract
I'd go with 15^50 and 15 -5 weapons.
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My heavy adrenal builds will use a +15 -5 weapon because energy is in abundance anyway. Otherwise its a Zealous 15>50.
It just so happens I have a 15 -5 Gothic Sword waiting for the right buyer... 
Akuma
I play warrior fine with a 15 -10 AL weapon, -10 AL isn't much, I can tank with heal sig :P
15 -5e is fine, what, 22e with glads, or 15 with other armous is that gonna hurt you? Well, unless you're running shock, but that's a different matter, just use your imagination...
15 -5e is fine, what, 22e with glads, or 15 with other armous is that gonna hurt you? Well, unless you're running shock, but that's a different matter, just use your imagination...
Shadowborn Demon
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I play warrior fine with a 15 -10 AL weapon, -10 AL isn't much, I can tank with heal sig :P
15 -5e is fine, what, 22e with glads, or 15 with other armous is that gonna hurt you? Well, unless you're running shock, but that's a different matter, just use your imagination... Qft. My favourite damage mod is 15%-10al. Ok, so it's not amazing for farming, but with a defense mod it becomes a -5al sword. Which isn't that much, seeing as armor stacks with diminishing returns and warriors have a heck lot of it. The only time I wouldn't choose a 15-10 is when using hammers, where you lose the bonus of a shield and it begins to hurt much more. Seeing as practically all hammer builds are adrenal, in steps the 15-5e weapon, which aren't bad at all either. I say for hammers, but they aren't half bad for the other warrior weapons too, which is why I love my Ironclaw so. After that, my favourite is 15%Stance. That suits me for any build that I use.
I really don't see all the fuss about 15^50. Ok, so most builds try to stay above 50% health, but its not all that reliable. To be honest, I'd prefer a 20% below 50% for most things, so I can at least give my foes a real hurt before I go down. The only 15%^50 weapons I own are greens either standing in until I can get a suitable replacement, or greens I need to sell.
I probably am in minority thinking here, which is a shame as the market will still remain to be covered in 15^50 weapons that sell for far more than they should. Oh well, it means cheaper weapons for me.
Shadowborn.
15 -5e is fine, what, 22e with glads, or 15 with other armous is that gonna hurt you? Well, unless you're running shock, but that's a different matter, just use your imagination... Qft. My favourite damage mod is 15%-10al. Ok, so it's not amazing for farming, but with a defense mod it becomes a -5al sword. Which isn't that much, seeing as armor stacks with diminishing returns and warriors have a heck lot of it. The only time I wouldn't choose a 15-10 is when using hammers, where you lose the bonus of a shield and it begins to hurt much more. Seeing as practically all hammer builds are adrenal, in steps the 15-5e weapon, which aren't bad at all either. I say for hammers, but they aren't half bad for the other warrior weapons too, which is why I love my Ironclaw so. After that, my favourite is 15%Stance. That suits me for any build that I use.
I really don't see all the fuss about 15^50. Ok, so most builds try to stay above 50% health, but its not all that reliable. To be honest, I'd prefer a 20% below 50% for most things, so I can at least give my foes a real hurt before I go down. The only 15%^50 weapons I own are greens either standing in until I can get a suitable replacement, or greens I need to sell.
I probably am in minority thinking here, which is a shame as the market will still remain to be covered in 15^50 weapons that sell for far more than they should. Oh well, it means cheaper weapons for me.
Shadowborn.
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If you're using mostly adrenal skills, like the classic 1x IAS + 6x attacks and a res, there's no point using anything BUT +15/-5.
It's not for farming, but in a group where you're going to be the primary damage dealer, it's stupid to choose any other weapon.
It's not for farming, but in a group where you're going to be the primary damage dealer, it's stupid to choose any other weapon.
jummeth
Depends on the place, however, if in PvP, your warrior should either be in a stance (rush or frenzy) or under a hex, in which case you should be squeezing out more damage by using a +20 hexed weapon.
Riken Chrono
i'd go with 15% no condition.
zsoltcc
I always thought -5 energy weapons are used for hiding energy from mesmer or other energy denial sources. It's a weapon u carry in battle and once you get hit with a major energy denial u swap back to your +5 energy or just regular sword for energy to use a cheap skill. That's why forgotten fans are popular too
Dante the Warlord
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i'd go with 15% no condition.
I would too, but they don't make those anymore =( i was even playing guildwars some fifteen months ago and never saw one of these
Jetdoc
On my axe warrior, I exclusively use -5 energy weapons, as most truly valuable axe attack skills are adrenaline-based.
On a sword warrior, I think -5 energy weapons aren't the best idea, given the heavy use of deadly riposte and other energy-based attack skills. I only use my sword warrior for stances as well, which are energy dependent.
I think the -5 energy hurts hammer warriors as well, given the relatively slow chargeup of adrenaline.
On a sword warrior, I think -5 energy weapons aren't the best idea, given the heavy use of deadly riposte and other energy-based attack skills. I only use my sword warrior for stances as well, which are energy dependent.
I think the -5 energy hurts hammer warriors as well, given the relatively slow chargeup of adrenaline.
Age
I have sword that is -1 although it is Zealous and nothing wrong with it you can get Zealous mod.
nomercy
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Originally Posted by Kobe#2
It depends on your build.
I get the most use out of a +15% while in a stance, personally. It's cheaper, and just as effective as 15^50 with my builds. Same here
I get the most use out of a +15% while in a stance, personally. It's cheaper, and just as effective as 15^50 with my builds. Same here