whats really going to suck....

Dutch Masterr

Dutch Masterr

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

Long Island, NY

Elite Knights [SWAT]

W/

this is going to be like the first few months after the realease of factions.
EVERYONE is going to be either paragon or dervish....just like everyone was asassin..no one will ever find a monk or stable group. all the new spears, sythes, swords and everything are going to be RIDICULOUSLY expensive only to have the price drop thousands a month later. and, who can forget, the people that have no guild wars expirience and jump blindly into nightfall.

what im going to do is go straight into the game with my original characters back from prophecies. save up gold. dont buy anything, or very little then about a month later buy things for MUCH cheaper. when the paragon and dervish hype (mostly paragon from what ive been hearing) is over, then ill make one so maybe ill have a chance at finding a group. so anyone think im right on this?

Markaedw

Markaedw

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

N/

I am doing something similar. I'm starting off with an Elona born Mes, then I'll see what is going on before I decide to use my Tyria Necro, my Cathan Ele or make a Derv or Paragon.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
so anyone think im right on this?
No. I seen more people rushing through the game in the first few weeks on their old Prophecies characters than I did see people creating new characters. Which meant there wasn't a problem with too many Assassins or Ritualists, and the only things I seen go for outrageous prices at the beginning was greens, because they were a little more rare and have since been farmed to death.

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Masterr
this is going to be like the first few months after the realease of factions. [...] everyone was asassin
I didn't feel that way. To me the excess of assassins and ritualists was only a problem on Shing Jea Island. As soon as you reached Cantha mainland where you met the Tyrians it was pretty well ballanced.

jackie

jackie

/retired

Join Date: Dec 2005

On the Beach

What may also happen is that some will certainly rush the game in hope for finding a spot to chestrun and then establish the Nightfall market with their own prices. Easy way to make money when something is new.

Best is to just wait couple weeks without purchasing anything major.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

I'm going to be one of the many many dervishes running around but I'll be henching most things so I'm not worried about parties. In Factions I only needed a team for boreas seabed, raise palace, and imperial sanctum. Not worried about scythe prices as I can just use the prerelease scythe til prices drop.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
I didn't feel that way. To me the excess of assassins and ritualists was only a problem on Shing Jea Island. As soon as you reached Cantha mainland where you met the Tyrians it was pretty well ballanced.
Yeah, that's what it basically was. Shing Jea was flooded with only A and Rt, but on the mainland there wasn't nearly half as much.

cosyfiep

cosyfiep

are we there yet?

Join Date: Dec 2005

in a land far far away

guild? I am supposed to have a guild?

Rt/

I wont even BUY the game until I read some good reviews (and yes, I will buy it at a real store.....so I can have my instance gratification satisfied, and not get nerfed by pre-order shenanigans again----if I do indeed decide to make a purchase at all).....so I wont worry about what materials are in high demand until probably xmas....

Mrscoombes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Crimson Skullfuks

A/R

Just like the first couple weeks of factions, the materials for dervish+paragon armor will be sold out at the traders >_<

Crimso

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

It wont be as bad with dervishes and paragons since theres the custom hero henchies you can make you'll be able to get monks no matter how many of the new classes there are.

Moa Bird Cultist

Moa Bird Cultist

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Hastings (UK) / Latham (USA)

Freedom Fanatical Scots [FFS]

E/W

The first thing I have in mind is getting me an A/D, actually
(All those criticals will be nice with a scythe, oh yes )

vinegrower

vinegrower

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Song of the Forsaken

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Yeah, that's what it basically was. Shing Jea was flooded with only A and Rt, but on the mainland there wasn't nearly half as much.
I made an Assassin right after Factions was released, and ended up just leaving it there in Shing Jea. To this day, there is still an uneven proportion of sins/rits in Shing Jea, leading me to believe that many people did the same. A lot of people make the new classes to mess around with, but dont continue the rest of the game with them.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

I honestly haven't decided yet. It would be easy to run my Warrior or Necro thorugh Elona first, and then my Dervish or Paragon second, but part of me wants to make a new class and try it out right away.

I guess it depends on how good the new profs are, and if I enjoy playing them or not.

EagleEye33

EagleEye33

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

In a House...duh

Untouchable Heroes

R/E

This kinda thing will happen with every chapter. Meh what can ya do about it. I'll run all my chars at the same time for a lil bit, for variety. Then if I decide to make one of the new chars i'll take it all the way through. As it will be like this.

Paragon LFG
Paragon LFG
Dervish LFG
Paragon LFG im no noob
Dervish LFG
Ranger LFG
Dervish LFG

hhmmm i'll take the 6th guy :P

Beta Sprite

Beta Sprite

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Madison, WI

R/

Personally, I'm going to make my first PvE Monk in Elona, and that char will be going through first.

Later, when the "OMG SCYTHE" has died down, I'll be making a sword-using Dervish and a Hammer-using Paragon... Just to shake things up. =)

I think the biggest problem will be people trying to advertise the customized henchies that they have. How do you even say that? "Paragon w/ War hench(Hammer) & Ele hench(Water/snare)..."

Might be tricky...

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Beta Sprite
I think the biggest problem will be people trying to advertise the customized henchies that they have. How do you even say that? "Paragon w/ War hench(Hammer) & Ele hench(Water/snare)..."

Might be tricky...

Gah, I hadn't even thought of that!

Wait until you have 3 heroes... we'll be reading whole novels of peeps LFG.

Guild Wars really needs another way to form parties...

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

Im thinking a party of 4-6 Paragons / Dervish will not be as bad as 4-6 Assassin /Ritualists. So unlike what happened on Shing Jea I think this will work out just fine.

Monk Mystic

Monk Mystic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

The Ka-Tet of Gilead

Mo/W

yeah in the beggining assassins were really one trick ponies.(yay now their 2 trick ponies barrage ftw!) dervish and paragons(especially) have many different things that they could do so a group of 4 paragons/dervishes mixed plus a monk or so wouldnt be that bad.

joncoish

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Ummm, well duh... it's a new game, with new professions. Obviously lots of people are going to want to try out the new classes, so get over it!

Hand of Ruin

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

*IF* I get nightfall I plan on exploring it on my warrior first, then my necro, and only then will I consider making a new character there. I'm kinda excited about the possabilites with W/P and maybe some nice W/D combos, and of course the ARMOR!

My warrior is my pride and joy, and he'll be the first to tote any new armor.

But yea I'm not really that interested in making a P/* D/*... just as I haven't bothered making an ass or a rit. More interested in them as 2ndary classes then primaries.

Tonev

Tonev

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Michigan

HUNT

Rt/Mo

I think everyone will find something that works for them with each class. That's not to say that people will not make a Dervish or Paragon to mess around with (see if it's too their liking).

I myself made a warrior/Monk in prophecies and haven't touched him or even wanted to mess around with him after trying out Necro/M and Rt/R, so it just depends on the person's likes/dislikes.

I for one know that the "Dervish" and "Paragon" classes both will be nerfed from what it was in the PvP preview and that in itself will make a lot of people not want to play them/shrugs.

New expansions are like having a new woman or car "after the first 100 drives it's becomes nothing more than a ride".

Shadow

Shadow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

None

That's the best part of the expantions.

Katari

Katari

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Upstate

Me/

On the upside, Paragons look more apealing than rits, and the dervish looks a bit more sturdy than sins.

Addone_Abaddon

Addone_Abaddon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Jersey, Channel Islands

Perfection Is Everything [PiE]

W/

according to wikipedia, a dervish is a type of muslim monk, OOO ANOTHER HEALER, or is that paragon

edit
AAAAAAAAAH!!!

an ascetic Muslim monk; a member of an order noted for devotional exercises involving bodily movements

icedragon981

icedragon981

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

At my computer

Teh Nine [lll]

N/

Once I get Nightfall, the first character I go through with will be my new Paragon. Just like how when you bring Tyrian characters to Cantha, they've already skipped a portion of the story(even if it's not that large.) Eh, I dunno, I guess I just have a thing about playing games the way they're suppost to be played. And in Guild Wars PvE, that would be starting a new character that continent and playing through said continent with said new character, not breezing through it, skipping half the story-line with a FoW armored Warrior.

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

At least I'll monk my way through the game first =/

That is, if I actually buy the game.

sindex

sindex

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

California

Swords of Night & Day [SWRD]

Yeah I learned my mistake from factions about that and still have yet to make an assassin or a ritualist. However I actually want to be one of the two classes this time around, not for popularity; actually for the feel of Nightfall. I will take my other characters through it as well, but understand that things will change in campaign four. I’m more independent and will try to stay away from groups (especially for certain quests). I love learning the learning curve first, more so then just being cool as a Devrish.

Yes and don’t start buy things at random when the game first comes out, (sell, don’t buy) it’s an obvious lesson I learned from factions.

Cynn Evennia

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Mo

Ill make a Dervish, i love the concept of that profession. Then i will get my monk there, and in due time my other characters, depending on my mood and on the motivation i can get ingame watching the performances of allies and foes. But definitely my dervish will be THE Elona character.

Id say dont worry, henchies are decent for questing, except if you monk because you cannot target and heal (i hate henchies coming back and surrounding me instead of attacking). In missions you can try out your heroes alone or with another friend, at least theoretically.

Time will tell, time will tell...

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Four letters. M.O.N.K.

Monk is the best.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Hehe, to avoid the millions of dervishs and paragons, I plan on making an Elonian Mesmer...
Oh crap I'm not going to get into groups either. Custom heros and henchmen FTW!

Relambrien

Relambrien

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Delaware, USA

Error Seven Operators [Call]

W/

I'll be making a Paragon and a Dervish to take up those two slots I get, and then probably a Ritualist with the one I'm gonna get from the bonus pack. I don't care how long it takes to get into groups; I didn't have that problem with my Assassin until late-game, and I'm hoping my Paragon will be the same. I'm taking him through first before I deal with my Dervish. And if I'm desperate, I'll just bring my Monk over from Cantha :P

Luckily, it seems people will be able to play these two classes better than most did with the sin and rit at the start of Factions, so even though there will be an excess, most should be decent at what they do.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Yeah, I do not see this problem even rivalling that of Assassins. Dervishes are plenty stout, and plenty capable at dishing out the hurt.

[DE]

[DE]

Hugs and Kisses

Join Date: Oct 2005

Scars Meadows

Meh.... Dervishes are going to be nerfed hardcore. Remember the D/Mo build used to dominate HA AND GvG? Well, Anet obviously had to find a way to stop it and so..... expect the dervishes to be as useless as a screendoor on a submarine!

Retribution X

Retribution X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Check behind you again.

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Phantom
Meh.... Dervishes are going to be nerfed hardcore. Remember the D/Mo build used to dominate HA AND GvG? Well, Anet obviously had to find a way to stop it and so..... expect the dervishes to be as useless as a screendoor on a submarine!
They were. It's called, Backfire and Soul leach. They'd kill themselves.

penguo

penguo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Abaddons Bane

N/

I'll play through with my necro or warrior or both, then dervish, then my ranger

Medion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Netherlands

My ranger will be the first to go through Elona, if only because I already have difficulties with completing Factions twice so my ranger has completed it...don't wanna have that happen with Elona as well.

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

I will start with Dev and go with the game for that. Then most likey will take a break and bring my warrior in and beat it too. Then make a Par and then ranger and the rest of my group. I might just make both new classes and go from their. But one way or another i will make both.

ease

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Incorrigible Punsters

Mo/Me

Retribution X-"They were. It's called, Backfire and Soul leach. They'd kill themselves."


LOL. A you don't have any idea how the D/Mo works do you? A dervish just CoP's all hexes and conditions and gets health and energy back and does lots of aoe damage. You can't just backfire and soul leech them.
I got so much faction that preview weekend I went UAX across prophecies and factions. D/Mo is way overpowered and needs to be reworked.

natuxatu

natuxatu

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

Wisconsin

Rt/Mo

I'll probably zip on through with Monk first to explore as much as possible.. or maybe my ritualist we'll see. At the same time I'll probably create a new character but whether or not it will be a paragon, warrior, dervish, or something else

Mtank325

Mtank325

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Crimson Blood Dragons [CBD]

Monk for hire, 10k only, invite fast.