Salvage/ID Wait

Darth Marth

Darth Marth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA Midwest

Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG]

Me/Mo

There's something thats been bugging me for a long time now: why do we always have to wait 15 or so seconds after our last attack before we can ID or salvage items? I can't see any reason for making us wait the extra time, and attacking (not being attacked or casting offensive spells) is the only things that afects the wait. What is the rationale behind this?

EDIT: Loviatar, are you saying you never get the "You have fought too recently to do that message?"

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Marth
There's something thats been bugging me for a long time now: why do we always have to wait 15 or so seconds after out last attack before we can DI or salvage items? I can't see any reason for making us wait the extra time, and attacking (not being attacked or casting offensive spells) is the only things that afects the wait. What is the rationale behind this?
you dont.

it is something on your end as i kill a mob and grab and salvage on the spot and ID anything interesting.

no wait ever even salvage in middle of attack if inventory is full

Whispering Siren

Whispering Siren

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Probably so impatient people are not IDing or salvaging mid battle and causing their team to die? Guess they figure you should finish fighting first and the coast should be clear before you start playing in your inventory.

Addone_Abaddon

Addone_Abaddon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Jersey, Channel Islands

Perfection Is Everything [PiE]

W/

I get the same, I think it's to be more realistic, I mean, if that was real, you wouldn't sit and use tools on something right in the middle of a fight

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whispering Siren
Probably so impatient people are IDing or salvaging mid battle and causing their team to die? Guess they figure you should finish fighting first and the coast should be clear before you start playing in your inventory.

Heh, I run out of battle, wait it out, then id/salvage, so I'm letting my team down even more.

Angel Develin

Angel Develin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Lions Arch

Minions of Kronos

N/Me

"Heh, I run out of battle, wait it out, then id/salvage, so I'm letting my team down even more."

^^lmao

DeanBB

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

I agree, you wouldn't want someone who just got a gold sword (or whatever) drop to be playing with inventory in the middle of a fight, would you?

Hmmm, actually for some that might be an improvement in performance!

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Because it's really hard to use your ID and/or Salvage kits when your hands are busy using your bow, axe, staff, whatever. Think about it, first you have to open up your bag, dig through it to find the kit you want, then pull out whatever item it is you want to ID/Salvage. Not only that, it's very dangerous to use these kits because the chemicals used are not safe to use when lightning or fire is in the area - they may EXPLODE!!!!
That's why they won't let you use them during battle.

The delay AFTER the battle is to make you take the time to clean up your weapon - gotta get all the blood, guts and other things cleaned off or it may cause rust. Then you still gotta open your bags & etc. etc.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Marth

EDIT: Loviatar, are you saying you never get the "You have fought too recently to do that message?"
my major oopsie on this.

i was thinking PVE and going wt is happening with him.

i dont pvp so i have never gotten that message
sorry about that chief (maxwell smart)

Whispering Siren

Whispering Siren

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
my major oopsie on this.

i was thinking PVE and going wt is happening with him.

i dont pvp so i have never gotten that message
sorry about that chief (maxwell smart)
hmm... i get this message about half the time in PvE (no clue about pvp). sometimes i can ID right away, sometimes I have to wait a few seconds. seems like a lot of others do too, so maybe Loviatar is the odd one out on this.

Darth Marth

Darth Marth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA Midwest

Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG]

Me/Mo

When would you be IDing in PvP anyway?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Whispering Siren
hmm... i get this message about half the time in PvE (no clue about pvp). sometimes i can ID right away, sometimes I have to wait a few seconds. seems like a lot of others do too, so maybe Loviatar is the odd one out on this.
i think you are right about that as i have been getting ready for Nightfall by light farming an hour a day and i simply gather a mob (15-20) around me and blast them, pick up and ID anything on the spot and salvage before i move a step further and i have never seen that particular message

cagan

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Me/Mo

Quite posibly the amount of time it takes you to pick up the goodies the large mob dropped .. you have been out of combat long enough for the message to not apply.

I don't think its 15 seconds, 10 maybe.

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
you dont.

it is something on your end as i kill a mob and grab and salvage on the spot and ID anything interesting.

no wait ever even salvage in middle of attack if inventory is full
No, I get it too.. It's while you're actually attacking, as in fighting with a weapon, so maybe you're thinking of when you're killing using SoJ or tanking?

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Haggard
No, I get it too.. It's while you're actually attacking, as in fighting with a weapon, so maybe you're thinking of when you're killing using SoJ or tanking?
no.

i nuke them so maybe it doesnt trip on simple casters.

i have picked up and ID a piece while the remains of the mob are still attacking.

possibly a weapon is needed as you suggest

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

I get that on all my characters. It's quite annoying. I play mostly casters, too.

Haggard

Haggard

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

Urmston, Manchester, UK

Greener Pastures [DVDF]

W/Rt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
no.

i nuke them so maybe it doesnt trip on simple casters.

i have picked up and ID a piece while the remains of the mob are still attacking.

possibly a weapon is needed as you suggest
I said that you need to be attacking with a weapon, IE wanding them or bashing them with a sledgehammer. If you're just using spells then, no it won't come up. I can't beleive you've never had it though.

Shadowfox1125

Shadowfox1125

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2005

PST

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Marth
When would you be IDing in PvP anyway?
lol, maybe after you just beat HoH and you want to id something that dropped for you..?

G_MAGNUS

G_MAGNUS

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

La Legion Del Dragon [LD]

W/

The reason behind it is so that if you want to change/equip something from your inventory mid-battle, you won't do the mistake of salvaging it instead. It would suck if instead of equiping a different 15k armor piece or some tweaked out gold weapon, you salvaged it instead. Though it takes a double click to activate, I've seen it happen while out-of-battle, imagine all the rants if it could happen mid-battle.

Whispering Siren

Whispering Siren

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

BTW, whoever said it's only from wanding or using a weapon is correct.... it doesn't activate the message if you are ONLY using spells. have to do the default attack for it delay your ID/salvage.