Salvage/ID Wait

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Darth Marth
Darth Marth
Lion's Arch Merchant
#1
There's something thats been bugging me for a long time now: why do we always have to wait 15 or so seconds after our last attack before we can ID or salvage items? I can't see any reason for making us wait the extra time, and attacking (not being attacked or casting offensive spells) is the only things that afects the wait. What is the rationale behind this?

EDIT: Loviatar, are you saying you never get the "You have fought too recently to do that message?"
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
#2
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Originally Posted by Darth Marth
There's something thats been bugging me for a long time now: why do we always have to wait 15 or so seconds after out last attack before we can DI or salvage items? I can't see any reason for making us wait the extra time, and attacking (not being attacked or casting offensive spells) is the only things that afects the wait. What is the rationale behind this?
you dont.

it is something on your end as i kill a mob and grab and salvage on the spot and ID anything interesting.

no wait ever even salvage in middle of attack if inventory is full
Whispering Siren
Whispering Siren
Wilds Pathfinder
#3
Probably so impatient people are not IDing or salvaging mid battle and causing their team to die? Guess they figure you should finish fighting first and the coast should be clear before you start playing in your inventory.
Addone_Abaddon
Addone_Abaddon
Wilds Pathfinder
#4
I get the same, I think it's to be more realistic, I mean, if that was real, you wouldn't sit and use tools on something right in the middle of a fight
Yanman.be
Yanman.be
Banned
#5
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Originally Posted by Whispering Siren
Probably so impatient people are IDing or salvaging mid battle and causing their team to die? Guess they figure you should finish fighting first and the coast should be clear before you start playing in your inventory.

Heh, I run out of battle, wait it out, then id/salvage, so I'm letting my team down even more.
Angel Develin
Angel Develin
Wilds Pathfinder
#6
"Heh, I run out of battle, wait it out, then id/salvage, so I'm letting my team down even more."

^^lmao
DeanBB
DeanBB
Forge Runner
#7
I agree, you wouldn't want someone who just got a gold sword (or whatever) drop to be playing with inventory in the middle of a fight, would you?

Hmmm, actually for some that might be an improvement in performance!
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Kook~NBK~
Grotto Attendant
#8
Because it's really hard to use your ID and/or Salvage kits when your hands are busy using your bow, axe, staff, whatever. Think about it, first you have to open up your bag, dig through it to find the kit you want, then pull out whatever item it is you want to ID/Salvage. Not only that, it's very dangerous to use these kits because the chemicals used are not safe to use when lightning or fire is in the area - they may EXPLODE!!!!
That's why they won't let you use them during battle.

The delay AFTER the battle is to make you take the time to clean up your weapon - gotta get all the blood, guts and other things cleaned off or it may cause rust. Then you still gotta open your bags & etc. etc.
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
#9
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Originally Posted by Darth Marth

EDIT: Loviatar, are you saying you never get the "You have fought too recently to do that message?"
my major oopsie on this.

i was thinking PVE and going wt is happening with him.

i dont pvp so i have never gotten that message
sorry about that chief (maxwell smart)
Whispering Siren
Whispering Siren
Wilds Pathfinder
#10
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
my major oopsie on this.

i was thinking PVE and going wt is happening with him.

i dont pvp so i have never gotten that message
sorry about that chief (maxwell smart)
hmm... i get this message about half the time in PvE (no clue about pvp). sometimes i can ID right away, sometimes I have to wait a few seconds. seems like a lot of others do too, so maybe Loviatar is the odd one out on this.
Darth Marth
Darth Marth
Lion's Arch Merchant
#11
When would you be IDing in PvP anyway?
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
#12
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Originally Posted by Whispering Siren
hmm... i get this message about half the time in PvE (no clue about pvp). sometimes i can ID right away, sometimes I have to wait a few seconds. seems like a lot of others do too, so maybe Loviatar is the odd one out on this.
i think you are right about that as i have been getting ready for Nightfall by light farming an hour a day and i simply gather a mob (15-20) around me and blast them, pick up and ID anything on the spot and salvage before i move a step further and i have never seen that particular message
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cagan
Frost Gate Guardian
#13
Quite posibly the amount of time it takes you to pick up the goodies the large mob dropped .. you have been out of combat long enough for the message to not apply.

I don't think its 15 seconds, 10 maybe.
Haggard
Haggard
Desert Nomad
#14
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
you dont.

it is something on your end as i kill a mob and grab and salvage on the spot and ID anything interesting.

no wait ever even salvage in middle of attack if inventory is full
No, I get it too.. It's while you're actually attacking, as in fighting with a weapon, so maybe you're thinking of when you're killing using SoJ or tanking?
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Loviatar
Underworld Spelunker
#15
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Originally Posted by Haggard
No, I get it too.. It's while you're actually attacking, as in fighting with a weapon, so maybe you're thinking of when you're killing using SoJ or tanking?
no.

i nuke them so maybe it doesnt trip on simple casters.

i have picked up and ID a piece while the remains of the mob are still attacking.

possibly a weapon is needed as you suggest
Feminist Terrorist
Feminist Terrorist
Desert Nomad
#16
I get that on all my characters. It's quite annoying. I play mostly casters, too.
Haggard
Haggard
Desert Nomad
#17
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Originally Posted by Loviatar
no.

i nuke them so maybe it doesnt trip on simple casters.

i have picked up and ID a piece while the remains of the mob are still attacking.

possibly a weapon is needed as you suggest
I said that you need to be attacking with a weapon, IE wanding them or bashing them with a sledgehammer. If you're just using spells then, no it won't come up. I can't beleive you've never had it though.
Shadowfox1125
Shadowfox1125
Forge Runner
#18
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Originally Posted by Darth Marth
When would you be IDing in PvP anyway?
lol, maybe after you just beat HoH and you want to id something that dropped for you..?
G_MAGNUS
G_MAGNUS
Lion's Arch Merchant
#19
The reason behind it is so that if you want to change/equip something from your inventory mid-battle, you won't do the mistake of salvaging it instead. It would suck if instead of equiping a different 15k armor piece or some tweaked out gold weapon, you salvaged it instead. Though it takes a double click to activate, I've seen it happen while out-of-battle, imagine all the rants if it could happen mid-battle.
Whispering Siren
Whispering Siren
Wilds Pathfinder
#20
BTW, whoever said it's only from wanding or using a weapon is correct.... it doesn't activate the message if you are ONLY using spells. have to do the default attack for it delay your ID/salvage.