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Deadpoetic69

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03 Sep 2006 at 03:24 - 1

hey guys!

i just started GW after playing WoW to lvl 45 (pally) and got kinda boring.

i was just wondering what kind of class i should play if i'm just starting out and wanting to make money

i've seen posts about W/Mo's and was thinking about playing one, but not sure b/c i've heard that not many people like them, but i need a good soloing character and one that can farm and make money and is pretty easy to play.

so if anyone has any suggestions about classes and builds and the like, that would be great!

thanks in advance

Deadpoetic69

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03 Sep 2006 at 04:09 - 2

soooo yeah 3 views and no replies?

come on guys..at least a little bit of help would be appreciated

ubermancer

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03 Sep 2006 at 06:42 - 3

Ive had threads with 100+ views without a reply, so be patient.

Monks and Warriors are the usually recommended starting class, though any class can farm effectively.

Angamar

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03 Sep 2006 at 07:27 - 4

You also need to tell us if you have GW:P or GW:F, or both... some builds require skills from both, so having just one limits your possibilities. Also the Ritualist is only available in GW:F, and while there are some very effective Rt farming builds, this wouldn't matter much to you if you only have GW:P.

So tell us more, and be patient; there are good and knowlegable people here who can and will help new folks - just give 'em a chance.

ease

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Mo/Me

03 Sep 2006 at 15:36 - 5

Sounds like you want to play pve and farm if that's the case I would say that a Warrior/x or a monk/x is the way to go. You can kill a lot of stuff with these classes. Others can kill also but if you are just starting out then are the easiest and probably most efficient. THere are many farm builds in these forums check them out. By the way the X refers to whatever secondary is applicable to the area you are farming.

Retribution X

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Check behind you again.

N/

03 Sep 2006 at 15:42 - 6

Play wammo until you get combat feel.

Then play healing monk.

Deadpoetic69

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03 Sep 2006 at 20:37 - 7

hey guys

yeah thanks for the input!

btw, i have GW:P

and i have another question..

if i get my first character (probably going to be W/Mo b/c i don't pvp much), to a certain point in the game, if i make another character, does it start all over at the pre-searing?

also, i would like to play a nice damage dealing class that's pretty fun and easy to play for my first time around

thanks for all the help in advance!

Age

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03 Sep 2006 at 21:08 - 8

When you make a secound char yes you start all over agian in presearing.You already have a good damage dealing class unless you want to go PvP if so use the W/E premade known as the shock/frenzy warrior and btw don't use W/Mo in PvP unless you are all Warrior.I would suggest to try some caster premades on the nameless Island to see what you like and then make PvE version of it.Don't expect to get rich fast as GW is not easy to make money from unlike WoW.
This would of been aswered faster in the Question and Answers forum at the very top and read stickies all of them.Welcome to the Guru.

Rolf

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Dragons Brood

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05 Sep 2006 at 00:02 - 9

Hi Barinn My in game name is Rolf Nightshade and you can call me for help anytime ,If I'm not helping someone else I will help you through things I also give away weapons and offhands that I dont feel like taking time to sell.

RuPee

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Mo/

05 Sep 2006 at 00:22 - 10

i would say to go the warrior path since your starting up. you can go w/mo for all your basic farming needs. but you'll have to wait till later in the game until you start having access to these "elite skills" necessary for farming.

and welcome to the gw family. hope u enjoy and find a nice guild

sludderx

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05 Sep 2006 at 21:51 - 11

Stfu^^

Learn2Talk

LightningHell

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Mo/

06 Sep 2006 at 14:32 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

When you make a secound char yes you start all over agian in presearing.You already have a good damage dealing class unless you want to go PvP if so use the W/E premade known as the shock/frenzy warrior and btw don't use W/Mo in PvP unless you are all Warrior.I would suggest to try some caster premades on the nameless Island to see what you like and then make PvE version of it.Don't expect to get rich fast as GW is not easy to make money from unlike WoW.
This would of been aswered faster in the Question and Answers forum at the very top and read stickies all of them.Welcome to the Guru. Add one comment: CoP W/Mos can work if you're in a build with Orders, Aegis, etc.

Age

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Mo/

07 Sep 2006 at 01:30 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by LightningHell

Add one comment: CoP W/Mos can work if you're in a build with Orders, Aegis, etc. What are you talking about Aegis and CoP is Monk and Orders is Necro?

ease

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Mo/Me

07 Sep 2006 at 01:53 - 14

What are you talking about Aegis and CoP is Monk and Orders is Necro?

Do you know what cop does? For every enchantment on you, you can remove a hex and condition. So aegis, orders etc... are enchantments. A wamo with cop is decent with an enchantment heavy build as he can keep himself free of conditions and hexes easily.

sumasage

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07 Sep 2006 at 19:40 - 15

it is also worth mentioning that secondary profession can change once you get to the desert area. But you will have to buy skills for the prof. that you changed to.

Age

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Mo/

07 Sep 2006 at 21:36 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by ease

What are you talking about Aegis and CoP is Monk and Orders is Necro?

Do you know what cop does? For every enchantment on you, you can remove a hex and condition. So aegis, orders etc... are enchantments. A wamo with cop is decent with an enchantment heavy build as he can keep himself free of conditions and hexes easily. Yes I know what CoP does I play Monk don't I and Aegis or Orders on a Warrior no that is not what they are designed for.That is for the Monk or Necro the Warrior is out there to do damage and just that.

ubermancer

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07 Sep 2006 at 22:07 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

Yes I know what CoP does I play Monk don't I and Aegis or Orders on a Warrior no that is not what they are designed for.That is for the Monk or Necro the Warrior is out there to do damage and just that. Some times I wonder what itd be like to be that stupid, but then I get a headache and think about something else.

To answer the OP's question more in depth, feel free to add me to your friends list and I will gladly assist you (name is near my avatar, to the left). Also, I must advise you against even READING what Age wrote in this thread.

Age

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Mo/

07 Sep 2006 at 22:41 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubermancer

Some times I wonder what itd be like to be that stupid, but then I get a headache and think about something else.

To answer the OP's question more in depth, feel free to add me to your friends list and I will gladly assist you (name is near my avatar, to the left). Also, I must advise you against even READING what Age wrote in this thread. What are you trying to imply I don't know what i am talking about post this in the Galdiator forum and you will be laughed at Warriors useing Aegis and Orders.Warrior useing healing breeze or life siphon would be shunned apon.

ubermancer

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07 Sep 2006 at 22:52 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

What are you trying to imply I don't know what i am talking about post this in the Galdiator forum and you will be laughed at Warriors useing Aegis and Orders.Warrior useing healing breeze or life siphon would be shunned apon. Genius, noone ever said the Warrior USE Orders or Aegis, but that it was a primer enchant for CoP. And Id gladly repost it there, but I see no reason to repeat something so common knowledge to anyone but you.

Age

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Mo/

08 Sep 2006 at 23:09 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by ubermancer

Genius, noone ever said the Warrior USE Orders or Aegis, but that it was a primer enchant for CoP. And Id gladly repost it there, but I see no reason to repeat something so common knowledge to anyone but you. I can't understand this what are you trying to say.

ease

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Mo/Me

09 Sep 2006 at 01:36 - 21

I'll try to explain how cop works. What we are trying so say is that aegis and orders are party wide enchants. As such a hexed or bleeding, crippled, blind etc... on a wamo with cop can use the aegis and orders enchants to cop off the hexes and or conditions. I don't how else to say it. Can't make it ony more clear than that. It might be a misinterretation on your part Age. You seem to think we are talking anbout a warrior casting aegis or orders. That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about warriors using cop to keep themselves clean and free to unleash damage.

ubermancer

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09 Sep 2006 at 08:17 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by ease

I'll try to explain how cop works. What we are trying so say is that aegis and orders are party wide enchants. As such a hexed or bleeding, crippled, blind etc... on a wamo with cop can use the aegis and orders enchants to cop off the hexes and or conditions. I don't how else to say it. Can't make it ony more clear than that. It might be a misinterretation on your part Age. You seem to think we are talking anbout a warrior casting aegis or orders. That is not what we are talking about. We are talking about warriors using cop to keep themselves clean and free to unleash damage. Dont explain shit to a 'lozl post that in gladiators forum ktx' pvp-"elitist" who cant wrap his mind around something as base as a CoP Warrior.

In the mean time, Ill continue to appreciate being called a noob for my low rank.

-- To be honest, I am unsure if Age is joking or not, but unfortunately I dont think he is.

Age

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Mo/

09 Sep 2006 at 21:25 - 23

I know what CoP does what am I and it cancels out boon as well nice when you need that 1 more pip of regen and I know runner use it more with holy viel.What i don't get is all the talk about Aegis and Orders you mean in a group?That is right ubermancer you post this in Glad Forum JR will lock it up and if it was The Guild Hall they would wonder where have you been or <screwlose>.

Heinrich Deathlord

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N/Me

09 Sep 2006 at 23:31 - 24

team:
1 a wammo with cop
2 a prot monk with aegis
3 a order necro with oop

strange team, but that will do the trick. the warrior rush in and start hitting. the monk is protecting him and the rest of the team with aegis, and the necro are using orders to add damage. Now the warrior gets a few bad conditions and hexes, say blind, weakness, ss and empathy. since he is enchanted by the necro and the monk, he can just cop off the order and aegis, thus loosing the conditions and hexes

ubermancer

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10 Sep 2006 at 01:46 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

I know what CoP does what am I and it cancels out boon as well nice when you need that 1 more pip of regen and I know runner use it more with holy viel.What i don't get is all the talk about Aegis and Orders you mean in a group?That is right ubermancer you post this in Glad Forum JR will lock it up and if it was The Guild Hall they would wonder where have you been or <screwlose>. I very, very rarely resort to direct insults.

Age, you are not only an insufferable annoyance, but you are also retarded.

Now, I have already contacted the OP ingame, and taken a couple of hours of my time to teach him how to play a Warrior effectively. If youd like to continue this further I encourage you to message JR and have him explain to you the fundamental concept LightningHell was trying to get across - because I wont be reading anything you post from now on.

@Admin, please lock thread - the OP has me on his friends list, along with an open invitation for assistance from me. Furthermore, he has admitted to me that he forgot about even posting here.

The Real Roy Keane

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10 Sep 2006 at 02:04 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Age

I know what CoP does what am I and it cancels out boon as well nice when you need that 1 more pip of regen and I know runner use it more with holy viel.What i don't get is all the talk about Aegis and Orders you mean in a group?That is right ubermancer you post this in Glad Forum JR will lock it up and if it was The Guild Hall they would wonder where have you been or <screwlose>. It's been explained already, but to reinforce the message..
The Monk casts Aegis, the Necromancer casts Orders. These two blanket enchantments will be on the Warrior a good deal of the team. If the Warrior is overburdened with hexes or conditions, he will fire of CoP, thereby freeing himself of two hexes and conditions. The monk may add other low cost, short duration enchantments like Guardian for additional, efficient hex removal.
Contrary to what you believe, the CoP Warrior is a reasonable build; it's not as effective as the likes of a Shock Axer in my opinion, but it has its place in specific builds.