'The Deep' PUG friendly build - can kill Kanaxai in 20 seconds!

What do you mean you dont have access to "OB"? I don't have access to an area to cap Offering of Blood. Though my Ranger is Tyrian I went straight to LA and crossed over to Cantha. I've cleared most of Cantha with my Ranger, but he can't access the higher areas in Tyria to cap OB.

Livingston

While interesting from a purely theoretical approach this is the kind of build that makes people worse players. It is not like the deep is that hard to begin with. Gl making it work... it won't be fast. I don't think the point is to get better at doing it or to have something where you can actually manage to do it (meaning that you can't normally), I think the point is to see if it will work and how well it will work. It gets boring using the same exact builds to get through the exact same places. And personally I think even it fails miserably, it will be interesting to see the results and to determine where it fails.

BTW: I've seen that I can cap OB in Lornar's Pass. So I'll work on trying to do that if I can find the time.

Livingston

While interesting from a purely theoretical approach this is the kind of build that makes people worse players. People making new builds instead of using cookie-cutter ones makes them bad players? Care to explain how?

No, because he's using NOOB touch rangers that only NOOBS use, what a NOOB!!11 LOL, Touchers may be nooby, but he's trying to utilize them in a non-nooby way.

Livingston

No, because he's using NOOB touch rangers that only NOOBS use, what a NOOB!!11 LIKE OMGZ I AGREEZ!!!11


Hmm...I'd like to know how it turns out

LIKE OMGZ I AGREEZ!!!11 haha?

Anyway, RT, I'm down for monk anytime (preferably weekends) you'll find me on the guild roster.

haha?

Anyway, RT, I'm down for monk anytime (preferably weekends) you'll find me on the guild roster. Not if I kick you.

Plus, lets honestly compare Touch Rangers to PVE trapping groups. Which one takes less skill. (hint: the answer is trappers)

Add that on with the fact that Ive been flamed many times before for even suggesting running something OTHER then a trapping group in Urgoz, and even if my build had an 'instant kill, ftw' button, I would still gladly use it in favor of the "WE NEED A 2ND MM PLZ" PUG groups whose ideas about party composition are tragically immutable.

Anyways, we can get an OoB capping group together. Lets say at 9CST tonight? PM me at Righteous Theory

Hi, I usually go with our regular 9 man group in The Deep, and we average 65-70 minute finish times. I usually monk with this group, and also do SS from time to time. I have two questions that I feel should be considered before attempting this group, and facing possible total wipe out at Kanaxai.

1. How are you gonig to overcome the total lack of energy your monks will have when they start HP spamming in the final Lair of Kanaxai (no SS = no BR)? Will you designate a Touchy as a BR? (BiP's are for spoiled monks)

2. When Kanaxai lays his beat down on you, how are you going to overcome the 180-240 damage you are going to receive + the degen? Seeing as Rangers don't have the armor that Tanks have.

Other than that, I don't see anything wrong with this build. It will definately be a slow run, but do-able. No, I wont use a toucher as a BR, thats silly. The touchers can outheal the degen by a wide margin, monks only need worry about themselves and the eles. Throw Dirt and Protective Spirit will nueter Kanaxai.

I decided on a build that would have additional flexibility, and be far faster then what I originally proposed. Two Vampiric Spirit necros with RoF, Draw Conditions, or something of the like, and a Cultist's Fervor necro. The two Vampiric Spirit necros spam skills on the Cultist's Fervor necro (for free, due to the bug with Cultist's Fervor) to get the 59 DPS from 18 Blood Vampiric Spirit, while the Cultist's Fervor necro spams Jaundiced Gaze and Vampiric Gaze and the like.

This way requires only 3 necros, leaves their bars relatively open, and still hits 170 DPS - enough to overpower his healing should there be no enchant removal. With plentiful enchant removal you should be able to drop Kanaxai in <40 seconds (with just those three characters).

Alternatively there could be an Air of Enchantment monk (not even necessarily a smiter) and the 2x vamp necros could spam skills on whoever the Air is on. Thats 120 DPS, killing him in ~51 seconds.

Even a single Vampiric Spirit necro (59 dps) would be able to kill him in a reasonable amount of time, in the presence of enchant removal.

I'm up for a OoB cap group. I missed the first proposal as I'm GMT +10 so I was asleep by the time you set a time for it.

New time maybe?

Livingston Yeah, you set it... Im CST but a serious insomniac.

I've tried several life stealing skills and concluded, months ago, that you cannot get past knocking down aspects. Just try to prove otherwise.

Also, editing GuildWiki does not make it true. I edited GWiki based off of knowledge I had from when I snuck into The Deep when BlackBlades still held an Iron Grip on Cavalon (dont ask how) and noone knew about knockdowns yet. We managed to kill some Aspects without.