Does anyone else come accross bad attitudes towards people wanting to explore tyria or cantha?
Ive already got 100% on both tyria and cantha, but im trying for the same with my Necro.
Either you stand in a mission town and post
"LFG to help explore mission area"
or
"LFG to do mission and explore if possible"
and you get no replies.
Or you join a party and ask everyone to please allow you to explore a certain area before the mission ends.
So they all know you want to and start the mission.
Then they dont let you, despite it not putting them out in the slightest.
For instance in THK, you finish the mission and ask nicely to be allowed to explore and ask for help to do it.
And they all just stand at the king saying "hurry up, we dont want to explore", they give about 2 minutes and then someone just ends the mission without saying.
Perhaps its just me and I just get the bad groups.
No One Helps Explorers Ingame.
freekedoutfish
Blackhawk
You'd be better off asking a group of friends to go with you as you'll always get one person complaining if they didnt get Masters or Bonus.
MirkoTeran
Yeah, it's sad. If you are going for cartographer you will more or less have to do it with henchies only. No-one ever wants to wait for explorer. It took me about forever to get the last 1% as they were all in areas where most people have no interest in.
THK can be pain with PuG as there is always someone who ends before you explore the whole area. I know I was doing it about 4 or 5 times before I finnaly got it with a guild party.
In missions it's much easier if you are a monk as you can just say to them to stop rushing or they will get no healing.
THK can be pain with PuG as there is always someone who ends before you explore the whole area. I know I was doing it about 4 or 5 times before I finnaly got it with a guild party.
In missions it's much easier if you are a monk as you can just say to them to stop rushing or they will get no healing.
Addone_Abaddon
I done the dragons lair mission with hench 
Savio
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I just henched ThK with my Assassin with virtually no difficulty. I strongly recommend following this bit of advice from the Wiki guide to it:|
I done the dragons lair mission with hench
Dragon's Lair doesn't count at all towards the title, though. I've done every other area with henchies or solo.
Alberic
I finished off my Tyrian cartographer title tonight, and one of the last spots I needed was the northern part of THK. I told my PuG that I wanted to explore there, and they didn't seem to care. I brought plenty of running skills, as well as a bit of self-healing, and explored everything that I needed before the last boss showed up. Worked just fine for me.
Marty Silverblade
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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon
I done the dragons lair mission with hench
I've henched the bonus...Anyway, Glint can be solo'ed so it's not that much of a big deal. The disrespect for explorers is horrible though. I wanted to explore just one little spot of Abaddon's Mouth bonus area (we had just finished bonus so I thought I'd ask), and someone told me to bugger off and get an exploring group. How many people to you see yelling out 'LFG exploring'? Especially in Abaddons Mouth?!?! 
Blackhawk
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Originally Posted by Addone_Abaddon
I done the dragons lair mission with hench
Hasn't everyone at some point, my screenies in the Glint thread somewhere along with the countless others 
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Blackhawk
You'd be better off asking a group of friends to go with you as you'll always get one person complaining if they didnt get Masters or Bonus.
I've tried guildies before. Exploration is just something no one seems to do.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
I've henched the bonus...
Anyway, Glint can be solo'ed so it's not that much of a big deal. The disrespect for explorers is horrible though. I wanted to explore just one little spot of Abaddon's Mouth bonus area (we had just finished bonus so I thought I'd ask), and someone told me to bugger off and get an exploring group. How many people to you see yelling out 'LFG exploring'? Especially in Abaddons Mouth?!?!
The Ring of fire missions are actually easy to explore.Especially compared to THK and DOD! Those two are a pain in the ass, because you DO need humans to help. They cant be done with just henches.... ...not from my experience anyway.
Savio
Paperfly
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Especially compared to THK and DOD! Those two are a pain in the ass, because you DO need humans to help. They cant be done with just henches.......not from my experience anyway. |
Taking the bonus of the mission might actually make the mission easier. The bonus Jade Armor and Bows will attack the fort first. If your party stands behind King Jalis in the fort, the Jades will stop on the courtyard, attacking any enemies coming in from the gates. They will easily wipe out all of the Stone Summit as they do not have infused armor. They will also kill some of the attacking Mursaat and White Mantle.
Once the mission has been beaten, you have quite a lot of time to explore the outlying areas as it doesn't finish until you talk to the King.
Dunes of Despair's bonus is henchable, but it requires some precise timing - I did it with Wiki's guide so as to know at exactly which timer values mobs would assault the Hero. Do it a couple of times so you can run around the emptier areas by the bonus, and you should be OK.
freekedoutfish
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Paperfly
Taking the bonus of the mission might actually make the mission easier. The bonus Jade Armor and Bows will attack the fort first. If your party stands behind King Jalis in the fort, the Jades will stop on the courtyard, attacking any enemies coming in from the gates. They will easily wipe out all of the Stone Summit as they do not have infused armor. They will also kill some of the attacking Mursaat and White Mantle.
Once the mission has been beaten, you have quite a lot of time to explore the outlying areas as it doesn't finish until you talk to the King.
Dunes of Despair's bonus is henchable, but it requires some precise timing - I did it with Wiki's guide so as to know at exactly which timer values mobs would assault the Hero. Do it a couple of times so you can run around the emptier areas by the bonus, and you should be OK. I didnt realise that. I might try that out tonight. Cheers!
cosyfiep
when my monk was working on his cartographer title I asked the pug for THK if they wouldnt mind while I ran around......not only did they not mind, but we had a conga line going around the edge, it was sooo funny I was crying! we got the bonus, but I only got .1% for the area...........did all the others with henchies including ring of fire.....for the title (not glint, that was another pug)
TAZTG
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Originally Posted by Alberic
I finished off my Tyrian cartographer title tonight, and one of the last spots I needed was the northern part of THK. I told my PuG that I wanted to explore there, and they didn't seem to care. I brought plenty of running skills, as well as a bit of self-healing, and explored everything that I needed before the last boss showed up. Worked just fine for me.
Congrats on your 100%.. I also had 2 small spots in the back of THK and the bonus to do for the Protector Title. I tried the Pug route and all of us agreed not to talk to King before we all unfogged but of course there was one assclown in the group that ran up and talked to the King before anyone unfogged. I got help from my Guild and we accomplised the Unfogging and Bonus again for someone else. BTW: it only gave me 99.8% found the other .2% in the Jungle (Small Spots Added Up)..
On a Side note I helped someone with Unfoggng the Aurora Glade Mission. I ran Crystals while he unfogged.. He was at 99.9% when finished.. If you ask around for folks going after Unfogging Only then you have the same goals and most times just 2 or 3 is enough the rest is Henchies.. If that don't work get some Guildies..
Congrats on your 100%.. I also had 2 small spots in the back of THK and the bonus to do for the Protector Title. I tried the Pug route and all of us agreed not to talk to King before we all unfogged but of course there was one assclown in the group that ran up and talked to the King before anyone unfogged. I got help from my Guild and we accomplised the Unfogging and Bonus again for someone else. BTW: it only gave me 99.8% found the other .2% in the Jungle (Small Spots Added Up)..
On a Side note I helped someone with Unfoggng the Aurora Glade Mission. I ran Crystals while he unfogged.. He was at 99.9% when finished.. If you ask around for folks going after Unfogging Only then you have the same goals and most times just 2 or 3 is enough the rest is Henchies.. If that don't work get some Guildies..
cataphract
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Originally Posted by Marty Silverblade
I've henched the bonus...
Anyway, Glint can be solo'ed so it's not that much of a big deal. The disrespect for explorers is horrible though. I wanted to explore just one little spot of Abaddon's Mouth bonus area (we had just finished bonus so I thought I'd ask), and someone told me to bugger off and get an exploring group. How many people to you see yelling out 'LFG exploring'? Especially in Abaddons Mouth?!?!
True.
I have it a lot easier being I'm playing a monk. I had 3 really weird groups in Abaddon's though. I accept the invite, state my intentions of helping them out with whatever they are doing in return with help of exploring the spider part of the mission. No one says a thing and leader loads. I stand still at the docks for 4 minutes watching "OMG HEAL ME!!", "HEAL!" and "I'm dead!" spam until they realize the monk (me) is out of range. It's amazing how deaths get peoples attention. Fourth team was great though, no morons, no monks Dwayna couldn't heal, much less me - and we did bonus, exploring and mission.
I am now stuck on 97.2% and don't know where to continue. Do I really need the old arenas for max exploration? My monk didn't visit any of them... Help.
Anyway, Glint can be solo'ed so it's not that much of a big deal. The disrespect for explorers is horrible though. I wanted to explore just one little spot of Abaddon's Mouth bonus area (we had just finished bonus so I thought I'd ask), and someone told me to bugger off and get an exploring group. How many people to you see yelling out 'LFG exploring'? Especially in Abaddons Mouth?!?!
True. I have it a lot easier being I'm playing a monk.
I had 3 really weird groups in Abaddon's though. I accept the invite, state my intentions of helping them out with whatever they are doing in return with help of exploring the spider part of the mission. No one says a thing and leader loads. I stand still at the docks for 4 minutes watching "OMG HEAL ME!!", "HEAL!" and "I'm dead!" spam until they realize the monk (me) is out of range. It's amazing how deaths get peoples attention. Fourth team was great though, no morons, no monks Dwayna couldn't heal, much less me - and we did bonus, exploring and mission.I am now stuck on 97.2% and don't know where to continue. Do I really need the old arenas for max exploration? My monk didn't visit any of them... Help.
joncoish
I managed to hench THK, and I play an elementalist, but I think I got a lucky load or something, or else the mission is super easy... I'm at Abbadons Mouth now, and basically henched everything except for Frost Gate and Sanctum Cay... Ring of Fire took me forever to get through, but I made it through today! 
Xaero Gouki Kriegor
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Your a warrior though.
Try it being an elemental or a Necromancer!
We dont have the fortune of heavy armor and running skills. Exploration is easy for warriors. And that makes a difference in using henchies? When I had my ele, he was lvl 5 and I had him ran to Droknar's Forge, I hated all the armors there, so i used henchies to get the collector armor, and moved throughout southershiverspeaks as a poor little lvl 5-6 ele with presear armor on,
till I got every peice from each collector, its not that hard to explore using henchies
Try it being an elemental or a Necromancer!
We dont have the fortune of heavy armor and running skills. Exploration is easy for warriors. And that makes a difference in using henchies? When I had my ele, he was lvl 5 and I had him ran to Droknar's Forge, I hated all the armors there, so i used henchies to get the collector armor, and moved throughout southershiverspeaks as a poor little lvl 5-6 ele with presear armor on,
till I got every peice from each collector, its not that hard to explore using henchies
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Xaero Gouki Kriegor
And that makes a difference in using henchies? When I had my ele, he was lvl 5 and I had him ran to Droknar's Forge, I hated all the armors there, so i used henchies to get the collector armor, and moved throughout southershiverspeaks as a poor little lvl 5-6 ele with presear armor on,
till I got every peice from each collector, its not that hard to explore using henchies If your able to avoid agro and sneek around then yes you can explore easily.
And if you have henches then its obviously even easier. I got 100% on both cantha and tyria on my ele using mostly henches.
But if your left to solo as an elemental, then it makes a huge difference.
Which is what happened to me in THK when the entire team just couldnt be bothered to help me explore.
Or when you have to do DOD and only you can traverse over the wall if you take henches and your alone.
Both those instances would be alot easier for a warrior to solo.
till I got every peice from each collector, its not that hard to explore using henchies If your able to avoid agro and sneek around then yes you can explore easily.
And if you have henches then its obviously even easier. I got 100% on both cantha and tyria on my ele using mostly henches.
But if your left to solo as an elemental, then it makes a huge difference.
Which is what happened to me in THK when the entire team just couldnt be bothered to help me explore.
Or when you have to do DOD and only you can traverse over the wall if you take henches and your alone.
Both those instances would be alot easier for a warrior to solo.
Numa Pompilius
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Does anyone else come accross bad attitudes towards people wanting to explore tyria or cantha?
It takes time to explore. Most are way too stressed out to wait for the cutscenes to play - no way they're going to wait while you spend 5-10 minutes exploring the edges of the map.
You'll need to learn to use henches (all areas in Cantha and Prophecies are henchable), and another good idea is to go to Lions Arch or Kaineng Center, respectively, and announce that you're going to, say, explore The Falls, so if anyone is shooting for Explorer, please join... Trying to find explorers in the outposts is hopeless - the areas are 99% populated by farmers, and 1% going through the game for the first time. There are explorers there, but they're out exploring.
So, find fellow explorers in Lions Arch, Droknars Forge, or Kaineng Center.
You'll need to learn to use henches (all areas in Cantha and Prophecies are henchable), and another good idea is to go to Lions Arch or Kaineng Center, respectively, and announce that you're going to, say, explore The Falls, so if anyone is shooting for Explorer, please join... Trying to find explorers in the outposts is hopeless - the areas are 99% populated by farmers, and 1% going through the game for the first time. There are explorers there, but they're out exploring.
So, find fellow explorers in Lions Arch, Droknars Forge, or Kaineng Center.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Numa Pompilius
It takes time to explore. Most are way too stressed out to wait for the cutscenes to play - no way they're going to wait while you spend 5-10 minutes exploring the edges of the map.
You'll need to learn to use henches (all areas in Cantha and Prophecies are henchable), and another good idea is to go to Lions Arch or Kaineng Center, respectively, and announce that you're going to, say, explore The Falls, so if anyone is shooting for Explorer, please join... Trying to find explorers in the outposts is hopeless - the areas are 99% populated by farmers, and 1% going through the game for the first time. There are explorers there, but they're out exploring.
So, find fellow explorers in Lions Arch, Droknars Forge, or Kaineng Center. I probably should have made this obvious when I posted the thread, so people didnt think I was a novice at exploring...
Sorry thats huge.
But I do know about exploring!
Its just when you start it a second time, id rather have some human companions to join my necro. Henches get boring.
Plus its just easier and faster with humans when people are nice enough to help you.
You'll need to learn to use henches (all areas in Cantha and Prophecies are henchable), and another good idea is to go to Lions Arch or Kaineng Center, respectively, and announce that you're going to, say, explore The Falls, so if anyone is shooting for Explorer, please join... Trying to find explorers in the outposts is hopeless - the areas are 99% populated by farmers, and 1% going through the game for the first time. There are explorers there, but they're out exploring.
So, find fellow explorers in Lions Arch, Droknars Forge, or Kaineng Center. I probably should have made this obvious when I posted the thread, so people didnt think I was a novice at exploring...
Sorry thats huge.
But I do know about exploring!
Its just when you start it a second time, id rather have some human companions to join my necro. Henches get boring.
Plus its just easier and faster with humans when people are nice enough to help you.
Indian
maybe start forming groups here?
i need that map on DoD and THK cleared for
MEsmer, Necro, Ranger, Ele, Rit, Assasin
there should be a "Help LFG" section where you can put in Quests/Missions/Titles Requests, and you can match-up with other people, it would be more efficient, thats what i think..
i need your opinion savio :P
i need that map on DoD and THK cleared for
MEsmer, Necro, Ranger, Ele, Rit, Assasin
there should be a "Help LFG" section where you can put in Quests/Missions/Titles Requests, and you can match-up with other people, it would be more efficient, thats what i think..
i need your opinion savio :P
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Indian
maybe start forming groups here?
i need that map on DoD and THK cleared for
MEsmer, Necro, Ranger, Ele, Rit, Assasin
there should be a "Help LFG" section where you can put in Quests/Missions/Titles Requests, and you can match-up with other people, it would be more efficient, thats what i think..
i need your opinion savio :P Sounds good. But I can see those group requests becoming outdated fast!
People will post requests to help do missions and quests and within a day or two they'l have completed them.
But its not a bad idea.
i need that map on DoD and THK cleared for
MEsmer, Necro, Ranger, Ele, Rit, Assasin
there should be a "Help LFG" section where you can put in Quests/Missions/Titles Requests, and you can match-up with other people, it would be more efficient, thats what i think..
i need your opinion savio :P Sounds good. But I can see those group requests becoming outdated fast!
People will post requests to help do missions and quests and within a day or two they'l have completed them.
But its not a bad idea.
Tiny Killer
The only area I mapped with a group of people was the Northern part of THK. I simply stated that I needed to map the area before we started the mission (as well as reminded everyone near the end of the final battle). Maybe I was just lucky, but everyone was good with it. A few thought it was a good idea in case they went for the title (so as not to have to go back), others just did it for the chests. One way or another, just make it clear at the outset and all should be good.
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Tiny Killer
The only area I mapped with a group of people was the Northern part of THK. I simply stated that I needed to map the area before we started the mission (as well as reminded everyone near the end of the final battle). Maybe I was just lucky, but everyone was good with it. A few thought it was a good idea in case they went for the title (so as not to have to go back), others just did it for the chests. One way or another, just make it clear at the outset and all should be good.
Thats what I always tell people in missions when asking to explore...
"do you want to help me explore, it will benefit you aswell"
...but alot of the time all I get is "i dont care about that"!
Not always, but alot of the time.
"do you want to help me explore, it will benefit you aswell"
...but alot of the time all I get is "i dont care about that"!
Not always, but alot of the time.
Kook~NBK~
I never even bothered to ask people about exploring areas. I just grabbed the henchies and went. As hard as it is to get a group to do the Bonus (unless you're a Monk) im many places like THK, I figured that my time was better spent grabbing henchies and doing the exploration on my own, even if it took a few times through the mission (like it took me for Dunes, no NT for me!). Besides, running around killing stuff > standing around shouting "LFG." (Especially as a Mesmer! )
Fallschirmjaeger
Henchway ftw
Commander Ryker
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Your a warrior though.
Try it being an elemental or a Necromancer!
We dont have the fortune of heavy armor and running skills. Exploration is easy for warriors. My very first character was an ele and I did all kinds of exploring (way before the titles made it fashionable) with him and hench along to help. There were times that I had max dp but I kept going. It is possible.
Try it being an elemental or a Necromancer!
We dont have the fortune of heavy armor and running skills. Exploration is easy for warriors. My very first character was an ele and I did all kinds of exploring (way before the titles made it fashionable) with him and hench along to help. There were times that I had max dp but I kept going. It is possible.
Tiny Killer
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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjaeger
Henchway ftw
TRUTH!
I have yet to find an 'unhenchable' area in either of the chapters. Go skill capping in the Fire Islands bonus areas and you will quickly find yourself without any takers for a PUG. Funny how an on-line game tends to go better without other people...
I have yet to find an 'unhenchable' area in either of the chapters. Go skill capping in the Fire Islands bonus areas and you will quickly find yourself without any takers for a PUG. Funny how an on-line game tends to go better without other people...
Xpl0iter
yeh, am working on it, had to do thk about 4 times to map my gf's ele and mine completly. Henche do work quite well i must say. Just need to know how to guide em. Working in Dark Island Area. If any one wanna work on mapping dark island area, msg me in game. I will do it when my gf is arround with me. Shes opening stuff at the same time.
IGN: Darkest Elemantal
Desert is next after Dark Island for me.
Regardz
IGN: Darkest Elemantal
Desert is next after Dark Island for me.
Regardz
freekedoutfish
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Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
I never even bothered to ask people about exploring areas. I just grabbed the henchies and went. As hard as it is to get a group to do the Bonus (unless you're a Monk) im many places like THK, I figured that my time was better spent grabbing henchies and doing the exploration on my own, even if it took a few times through the mission (like it took me for Dunes, no NT for me!). Besides, running around killing stuff > standing around shouting "LFG." (Especially as a Mesmer! )
Meh! I got bored exploring alone the first time around.
I figured this time id atleast try to explore when humans are there to get some strange satisfaction from it.
In reality it just peepees me off!
I figured this time id atleast try to explore when humans are there to get some strange satisfaction from it.
In reality it just peepees me off!
Phrozenflame
why not make a thread about it explorers, this way you can make like explorer's club etc etc...??
Me, I dont care, but i wudnt mind if anyone wants to explore in my party, gg hf
Me, I dont care, but i wudnt mind if anyone wants to explore in my party, gg hf
Indian
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Originally Posted by freekedoutfish
Sounds good. But I can see those group requests becoming outdated fast!
People will post requests to help do missions and quests and within a day or two they'l have completed them.
But its not a bad idea. well it wont happen, lets say
there is a already thread opened "Help Clearing Dunes Bonus Area"
if someone opens a new thread, it will get closed. people can use searhc button to see if the theres a existing thread or not.
something like that, u got my point :P
People will post requests to help do missions and quests and within a day or two they'l have completed them.
But its not a bad idea. well it wont happen, lets say
there is a already thread opened "Help Clearing Dunes Bonus Area"
if someone opens a new thread, it will get closed. people can use searhc button to see if the theres a existing thread or not.
something like that, u got my point :P
Pick Me
Speaking as a person who couldn't care about the 100% maping title, telling people what your intent was is the right thing to do. I've been in PUGs whom didn't tell me that they wanted to explore. I just followed them (helping a friend do a quest with others) and after the quest was over, they kept wandering around. I asked them what was the next thing they wanted to do. No response. I asked again, what quest did they want to do. Then my friend's friend (who was also in the PUG) said, we just want to explore. I told them to enjoy and I left. Apparently, they wanted to explore and complete the quest, but I was only told they wanted help with a quest.
As far as exploring goes, most people want to just complete the mission (and/or bonus/get masters), so they don't want to waste time looking around for no reason (other than help you get the title). In Tyria, as long as I'm not pressed for time, I couldn't care if you wanted to stay in the mission a bit longer to complete the exploration area. However, if I am pressed for time, I will tell people, skip cut scenes and I will go complete the mission as soon as possible.
In Canthas, many want Masters and will not tolerate any wasting of time. So watch yourself when joining a PUG there.
The best is to go with a PUG that has many blood thirsty players. I've been in groups that just want to kill, regardless of where they are. So to keep the group together (I'm a monk) we travelled all over the map (they were killing everything insight). Eventually we completed the mission (but lost the bonus, as a villager died). Oh well.
As far as exploring goes, most people want to just complete the mission (and/or bonus/get masters), so they don't want to waste time looking around for no reason (other than help you get the title). In Tyria, as long as I'm not pressed for time, I couldn't care if you wanted to stay in the mission a bit longer to complete the exploration area. However, if I am pressed for time, I will tell people, skip cut scenes and I will go complete the mission as soon as possible.
In Canthas, many want Masters and will not tolerate any wasting of time. So watch yourself when joining a PUG there.
The best is to go with a PUG that has many blood thirsty players. I've been in groups that just want to kill, regardless of where they are. So to keep the group together (I'm a monk) we travelled all over the map (they were killing everything insight). Eventually we completed the mission (but lost the bonus, as a villager died). Oh well.
freekedoutfish
I just proved my own point last night.
I went into THK with a party and must have said about 10 times before we entered to let me explore and I made sure everyone agreed.
During the mission I was saying "dont speak to king at the end" many, many times.
Mission ends.....cut scene comes on.
I mean honestly!!!!!
I went into THK with a party and must have said about 10 times before we entered to let me explore and I made sure everyone agreed.
During the mission I was saying "dont speak to king at the end" many, many times.
Mission ends.....cut scene comes on.
I mean honestly!!!!!
Tiny Killer
Freekedoutfish, I feel your pain! That is just plain mean of the party. I guess I have just been lucky with the groups I had in THK.
Commander Ryker
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I just proved my own point last night.
I went into THK with a party and must have said about 10 times before we entered to let me explore and I made sure everyone agreed.
During the mission I was saying "dont speak to king at the end" many, many times.
Mission ends.....cut scene comes on.
I mean honestly!!!!! Maybe if you tell them that there are always at least 2 chests out there (it's true!), they will let you explore while they look for chests.
Also, did you know that you can actually beat the mission and get the bonus with henchies? Also true! My partner has done it a number of times, with different characters. Henchies are better because they always do what you tell them to do and they will never speak to the king.
I went into THK with a party and must have said about 10 times before we entered to let me explore and I made sure everyone agreed.
During the mission I was saying "dont speak to king at the end" many, many times.
Mission ends.....cut scene comes on.
I mean honestly!!!!! Maybe if you tell them that there are always at least 2 chests out there (it's true!), they will let you explore while they look for chests.
Also, did you know that you can actually beat the mission and get the bonus with henchies? Also true! My partner has done it a number of times, with different characters. Henchies are better because they always do what you tell them to do and they will never speak to the king.
Xenrath
Pickup groups rarely want to wander around and explore, unless you just get lucky and have a number of other explorers in the group too.
For missions like THK best bet is a guild group if possible (fill up with henchies if not enough)
I also got 2 x 100%, but for Cantha I started mapping right from the start and did most of it with henchies. For the odd mission where henchies couldn't really cut it I just tried to map what I could along the way without wandering off from the group too much (between fights). Then just redid them to pick up other parts.
Mostly though, henchies are pretty much a must. For the more difficult areas you can always try an attrition approach - take a run skill or two if possible, send in the henchsquad and make a run for the unexplored bits while the henchies take aggro. Then you can sort of drag them along with you by targetting any mobs further along.
For missions like THK best bet is a guild group if possible (fill up with henchies if not enough)
I also got 2 x 100%, but for Cantha I started mapping right from the start and did most of it with henchies. For the odd mission where henchies couldn't really cut it I just tried to map what I could along the way without wandering off from the group too much (between fights). Then just redid them to pick up other parts.
Mostly though, henchies are pretty much a must. For the more difficult areas you can always try an attrition approach - take a run skill or two if possible, send in the henchsquad and make a run for the unexplored bits while the henchies take aggro. Then you can sort of drag them along with you by targetting any mobs further along.
Zeig
I understand full well the pain of finding explorer groups (or ANY groups for that matter), since I've been playing a necro since WPE and until flesh golem and factions necros were pretty much shunned everywhere. I still don't play minion master too often unless I'm feeling lazy.
Anyway, if anyone wants help exploring anywhere feel free to message me in-game, if I'm not in the middle of something I'll likely come help. Just finished up my Canthan title last week, and have had Tyrian for a while, so I don't have all that much left to do in the game until I can afford nightfall, so why not make a few new explore-minded friends until then eh?
IGN: Zeig Xantyr
Anyway, if anyone wants help exploring anywhere feel free to message me in-game, if I'm not in the middle of something I'll likely come help. Just finished up my Canthan title last week, and have had Tyrian for a while, so I don't have all that much left to do in the game until I can afford nightfall, so why not make a few new explore-minded friends until then eh?
IGN: Zeig Xantyr