W/ME FoW solo guide with no elite needed !

Pojnx

Pojnx

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Join Date: Mar 2006

This post is a guide of how to farm the beach in FoW using a W/Me.
The main reason i am doing this is so that my guildies can learn without having to show them individualy and at the same time i might aswell post it here for others to see too.

Note: U must be Ascended to enter FoW

Here's a map of the route u should take for this farm. { Follow the RED dots }


Skill Bar
3 Sword Attacks
Sprint
Physical Resistance
Watch yourself
Doylak Signet
Healing Signet

Don't bother taking skills that cause bleeding because the spiders will use skills that regenerate. {They only use them wen u cause degen :-/ .. weird}


Attributes


Weapons & Armor
Sword & Shield (Tactics)

I suggest that u buy 2 extra armor peices to put superior runes on so that u only have the -hp when u rly need the runes

Here's what i use.


Creatures

Here's a list of creatures that u will come across and what to do wen near them.

Shadow Creatures


Dryders


Snarlings


Skales


Spiders


Shadow Creatures
You will find these at the begining of your run. Do not fight them just run past them and aggro the least u can. As you enter the beach they shouldn't a problem anymore.

Dryders
These don't require any defence skills but u gotta keep healing urself frequently. When u come across these in the cave u must lure them so that the spiders dont spawn as ur fighting it. Anybow apart from the shortbow should work just fine.


Snarlings
You are going to have to use ur defensive skills against these and make sure ur far away from the skales wen attacking them. Otherwise due to doylak signet as soon as a skale is agroed, ur screwed

Skales
These creatures are extremely hard because of the massive degen which is deadly vs this build because armor cant block out degen. So if u see these don't be a hero but run / avoid them.


Spiders
These are what you are mainly going to be farming. They poison but dont bother taking purge conditions or anything coz its not gona work out, this build works just fine
This is what it will look like when u are farming spiders.

It is important to keep healing.. to be on the safe side dont let ur hp go lower than 50 - 60%

Why do should u do all of this ?
For these drops.


Small Tips
- When fighting spiders try and fight the ones that are singled out or in a group of less than 3
- Inside the cave there are some spots wer the spiders cant reach. So if u quickly need to get away and ur surrounded by spiders, try and do this.


Very Important Short Notes
- Dont speak to Rastigan The Eternal {The ghost at the start}
- Dont fight skales
- Dont fight shadow creatures
- And for gods sakes dont go AFK !! this is what happens if u do so.

Dont worry ppl hes not a noob he just died for the scrn shot

Hope you enjoy farming there. After every run u should get approx. 10 - 15k so if u manage then i can garantee u would like it

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

Instead of not having an elite, put Hundred blades in there, it'll speed things up.

10-15k a run!?!?!, a lucky run maybe.... but Gj on the guide

STOOBY

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

sunny-ish... Scotland

WEAK

pr is inspiration not illusion..

Alexi Jotun

Alexi Jotun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

New York

Official SteamPowered Guild (Valves Valiant Tyrian Fighters, [VVTF])

Its true, you don't need an elite, but it helps if you have an elite sword skill like hundred blades or dragon slash to speed things up. On my warrior, i run the same build only using axes, so I bring cleave, as I try to shy away from eviscerate because the conditions are counter-productive against the spiders, as they use Melandru's Resiliance.

mathijn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

holland

[PIKY]

R/

lol, there is a 98 pages long guide on the forums about spider solo with 3/4 working builds in it
it's a nice guide, but a little outdated

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Leather Rebels, (LR)

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only spiderfarming build that actualy needs an elite, is the one that uses Healing Hands, and its getting to the point where healing hands isnt even needed anymore, so basicly, none of the spider farming builds actualy need an elite

Ogel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Phase Three

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Cleave, Executioner's Strike, Penetrating Blow, Penetrating Chop, Sprint, Physical Resistance, "Watch Yourself!", Healing Signet.

FOUR attacks, still no elite required!

Kcp

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

OBF

N/

Here's a note: talking to rastigan does absolutely nothing unless you kill the very first group which consists of an abyssal and 2 rangers at the front of the tower of courage.

Now, aggroing the shadow army with rastigan in your "aggro bubble" is asking to get him killed.

I will happily provide proof to confirm that talking to rastigan b4 clearing gets him killed is a GW Myth.

I always grab quest as soon as I enter the FoW with my necro, so I dont have to talk to him when he gets to the door of the tower.

monty123

monty123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Michigan

None Currently

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogel
Cleave, Executioner's Strike, Penetrating Blow, Penetrating Chop, Sprint, Physical Resistance, "Watch Yourself!", Healing Signet.

FOUR attacks, still no elite required! hacks

Akuma

Akuma

IRC W H O R E

Join Date: Feb 2006

Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration

Yale University [Snow]

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err... Cleave's an elite

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Well, I've been gone for a while, and now I'm back. Just 1 really glaring thing in your build-

Physical Resistance is Inspiration, not Illusion; the two points that you have for it won't help you very much if you're just using PR to get +hp -dmg from a stance shield.

My suggestion: Dump PR entirely and remove 1 point from either your tactics or swordsmanship in favor of dumping them in Domination and bringing Hex Breaker. This will help you a little vs. those skales (in survival terms) and is an easily maintainable stance to boot. The only downside is that it ends once you're the target of a hex and must be re-applied. If you don't choose to make use of Hex Breaker, put the suggessted points instead into Inspiration and make more use out of Physical Resistance.

Regards- Blade

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AkumaZ
err... Cleave's an elite well there you have it the don't need an elite with an elite build -its new-

monty123

monty123

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Michigan

None Currently

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still trying to figure out why a sup tactics rune. Only tactic skill I see is heal signet, and it's a lot faster with an elite.

Ic Zero

Ic Zero

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK

W/

dolyak signet isnt needed when you have watch yourself and physical resistance

Quote:
Originally Posted by lambda the great
Instead of not having an elite, put Hundred blades in there, it'll speed things up.

10-15k a run!?!?!, a lucky run maybe.... but Gj on the guide EDIT: you get about 4 shards per run on average

Akuma

Akuma

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Join Date: Feb 2006

Australian Trolling Crew HQ, rightful leader and administration

Yale University [Snow]

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I meant the axe build posted above that claims to have no elite =P, disregard me.

Btw, as clarification the spiders use Melandru's Resilience, which only activates when they have a condition.

Ogel

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Phase Three

W/

Fine, fine, you caught me...

Penetraing Chop, Penetrating Blow, Executioner's Strike, Power Attack.

Ic Zero

Ic Zero

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ogel
Fine, fine, you caught me...

Penetraing Chop, Penetrating Blow, Executioner's Strike, Power Attack.

lol power attack, why dont you take cyclone axe instead

pegasux

pegasux

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

New Mexico < PUKE >

Elite Rogues Inc. [ER]

sprint
physical resistance
heal sig
i will survive
penetrating chop
penetrating blow
cyclone
triple chop {E}

makes fast work out of them.

Pojnx

Pojnx

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Thanks for ur post guys and about the attribute mistake.. i just quickly set it up for the screen shot.. so my bad :P.. and i know an elite is faster but lots of ppl get put off having to go and capture an elite wen all u have to do is visit the skill person.. its most probably outdated i know but i used to use this build ages ago and i had stopped playing gw for a while and my guildies needed some help from me.. for the comment about dolyak not being needed wen using physical and watch urself.. u can take the healing slightly easier wen u use dolyak.. The build was originaly created by me and a friend.. it took us a while to get the right skills.. but we later searched for a build and found a very similar one so we just changed 1 skill.. we used to use shields up instead of ps.. i get 2 - 3 shards per run.. (around 9k , and about 3k of other stuff).. i remember getting 6 shards per run.. once apon a time..

EDIT: The 2 point for ps are there coz they are extra points.. besides ps will last longer with them about 8sec if i remember right

Ic Zero

Ic Zero

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pojnx
Thanks for ur post guys and about the attribute mistake.. i just quickly set it up for the screen shot.. so my bad :P.. and i know an elite is faster but lots of ppl get put off having to go and capture an elite wen all u have to do is visit the skill person.. its most probably outdated i know but i used to use this build ages ago and i had stopped playing gw for a while and my guildies needed some help from me.. for the comment about dolyak not being needed wen using physical and watch urself.. u can take the healing slightly easier wen u use dolyak.. The build was originaly created by me and a friend.. it took us a while to get the right skills.. but we later searched for a build and found a very similar one so we just changed 1 skill.. we used to use shields up instead of ps.. i get 2 - 3 shards per run.. (around 9k , and about 3k of other stuff).. i remember getting 6 shards per run.. once apon a time..

EDIT: The 2 point for ps are there coz they are extra points.. besides ps will last longer with them about 8sec if i remember right you take no dmg when PR and ''Watch Yourself'' are up anyways, the healing is only needed for poison

Pojnx

Pojnx

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Join Date: Mar 2006

When u are using healing signet u have -40 armor.. in those 2 seconds u can take a little bit of dmg at the begining of the cave.. its not needed but it does help a little.. i`ll do some tweaks in my build later on wen i feel like playing about.. so it will be the fastest yet still safe way for this farm..but atm all i can think about is BED !! its 25 past midnight lol.. o well cya

Bloodied Blade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

This probably should have been obvious to me, but why don't you use Sever Artery + Gash? (I'm thinking Melandru's Resilience)

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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Bloodied Blade, read:
I quote: "Don't bother taking skills that cause bleeding because the spiders will use skills that regenerate. {They only use them wen u cause degen :-/ .. weird}"

Ic Zero

Ic Zero

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK

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and if you put conditions on them they will use healing spring

Pojnx

Pojnx

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Join Date: Mar 2006

if they use healing spring its easily interuptable.. but still its better not taking conditions and just dmg dealing..

Ic Zero

Ic Zero

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pojnx
if they use healing spring its easily interuptable.. but still its better not taking conditions and just dmg dealing.. not when 3 spiders are adjacent to each other....

Johno77

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

England

Apocalyptica UK

N/Me

10-15k per run? That is a massive exaggeration.

Pojnx

Pojnx

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Johno77
10-15k per run? That is a massive exaggeration. no its not work it out.. i`ll take a few screenies next time i go if i remember.. i know wat im saying if i go with just 1k for entrance i will get 10 - 15k after selling the stuff i picked up during the farm.. im sry if u had bad luck but 10k is actually the least i ever got..


EDIT: With a full inv u always got about 3k, 2-4 shards {lets say on going price is 3.5k}
2x3.5 = 7 , 3+7 = 10k
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And for Ic Zero, when 3 spiders are next to each other its still easy to kill them.. wen u have a group of 4 - 5 it might be abit anoying coz of the healing but still possible.. 6+ just go out of sight and let them spread

PS. I think its very pointless in ppl telling me im wrong in certain things when wat i wrote is from experience not some build i picked out randomly

Opeth11

Opeth11

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Richmond, British Columbia, Kanada

Demon of the Fall [Opet]

Mo/Me

Talk about overkill on defence o.o

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Xaero Gouki Kriegor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Leather Rebels, (LR)

W/

this thread is just a repeat, everysingle thing known to mankind, taht you would ever need to know is in this over 90ish pages thread, and its still growing as we speak, as 90ish pages, wont be an accurate word for it pretty soon,

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...ad.php?t=77852

the reason i post this link is because of this, while reading over some of these comments it reminds me of the earlier stages of the above thread ^

its like going back into cavemen time, learning how to do the cave with a w/me, when you can read over this thread, and facts dont have to be repeated over again and also seeing the words "ill work out the build better" or something along the lines of taht quote, in some of the previous posts in this exact thread, brings in the point, that in this above thread, the w/me build has been worked out around 10-20 times or more, to increase efficiency, its like starting from scratch again imo, but whatever you must imply, more power to you