Kiting is not running

Undressed

Undressed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Reich

none

W/

Dear Scrubs,

when I am walking away from your "godly chaos axe" you're wielding in your tin-can armour, I am doing that to minimize the damage I get from it. There are good articles on why it is necessary NOT to stand still and get ragefaced.

Running, dear scrubs, implies using a speed boost like "sprint", "rush", "dodge", "escape", "stormchaser". Even that is sometimes necessary to do for seeking cover and healing up. Most low-AL targets can't afford the luxury of a speed-boost though. That's why we kite, not to personally offend you or make you look shameful (a feeling your hormon-disturbed personality would never know), but as a team effort.

When you "chase" me and activate Gladiator's Defense, Ripostes, don't expect me to duel you with my +5 energy sword and trigger the damage. I am not your personal Ettin, Grawl or Griffon. I'd only drop dead, but never loot, not even any single green.

Your damage output is so laughable, I could actually not kite at all and just stand still and heal happily, but I won't. I want you to feel the pain of getting 10 adrenaline up for your "final thrust" which you unload on me on >90% of my health bar anyway.

Calling me and all others who kite, "noob runners", might make you feel a lot better and perhaps serve as an alternative therapy, but in fact: It does not. It's the very rage inside you, you can't handle personally but need to vent online, anonymously - and I'll help you experience it.

I'm your personal nightmare, the ghost that's haunting you, making you sweat and breath heavily in your tin can until you suffocate.....

or you could just play a real warrior build and start killing me.

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

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If your a monk that gets constantly owned by the premade axe and war builds in RA, go cry somewhere else or go GVG.

Ole Man Bourbon

Ole Man Bourbon

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta

GONG

W/E

Take it to the RA board. Or better yet, RA itself.

Undressed

Undressed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Reich

none

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kassad
If your a monk that gets constantly owned by the premade axe and war builds in RA, go cry somewhere else or go GVG.
Lawl, got reading skills?

Shadow-Hunter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Denmark

[HH] [Hax]

Mo/

omg some1 else that understand me ^^

Some a War comes up to me and im wearing 60 AL stuff.. He starting slashing away at my Face.. i ofc start moving to lower the dmg i take.. Then the Warrior starts with the goold old, "Fight with Honor.. Dont be a coward.. Stop running.."

And its just extreemly hard to explain to this idiots why its good to run.. They ALL think its better to fight with honor and die in combat,... Even tho it means getting smacked down with a War while using a caster class who has no interest in dealing with Warriors at all... The OP made this thread to explain to this idiots why we aint cowards and honorless ppl when we run from an Axe Warrior Raging in our face..

very needed thread infact x.x

~Shadow

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undressed
Lawl, got reading skills?
Yes I think I do, lawl do you?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undressed
when I am walking away from your "godly chaos axe" you're wielding in your tin-can armour, I am doing that to minimize the damage I get from it. There are good articles on why it is necessary NOT to stand still and get ragefaced.
-Axe

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undressed
Your damage output is so laughable, I could actually not kite at all and just stand still and heal happily, but I won't. I want you to feel the pain of getting 10 adrenaline up for your "final thrust" which you unload on me on >90% of my health bar anyway.
-Sword

Valyar

Valyar

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Apr 2006

Mo/Me

Why we run? I am monk most of my time and I prefer to run, cause in that way i give the chasing me warrior less hits. If i stand still I get more hits, and if he hits frenzy, I got punched even more. While running he can't hit me even once, or hits me barely. It's not hard to understand, isnt it?


Of course. i do not encourage people to run when their team is dead and they are the last man standing in the arena. That is pretty noobish. You can't turn the tides of the battle. You got owned, learn to live with that. Just leave or be killed. Hoping that after 30 min or running (if you are lucky and you dont get blocked at some bridge and etc) they might leave and you can get 20 more faction is pathetic.

Yichi

Yichi

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Sep 2005

Guild Hall, Vent, Guesting, PvE, or the occasional HA match...

Dark Alley [dR]

lol i got called a runner for NOT standign in a team of vim trappers that tried to surround me... guess im a failure at monk

M1h4iL

M1h4iL

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Perth, Australia

AB has plenty of this, specially the r/n touchers: "stop running you noob, come and fight me like a man!" Hate them and their filthy trash talks, who would stand and get wiped out by them unless your a mezmer with diverison...

Undressed

Undressed

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

Reich

none

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kassad
Yes I think I do, lawl do you?

-Axe

-Sword
Just examples, you are missing the whole point of the thread. Others didn't oviously. Doesn't matter which weapon, warriors with no speed boost are generally bad players.

gg

Kassad

Kassad

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Undressed
Just examples, you are missing the whole point of the thread. Others didn't oviously. Doesn't matter which weapon, warriors with no speed boost are generally bad players.

gg
The point of my post was to show that you didn't even read what you posted, or you wouldnt have quoted my first post in this thread.

gg

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiting_%28MMORPG_term%29

Dr Strangelove

Dr Strangelove

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Dec 2005

Wasting away again in Margaritaville

[HOTR]

The good warriors bring some way to stop kiting, be it a speed boost, bull's strike or shock. The axe and sword warriors usually have laughable damage output that doesn't even register until you have 3 of them on you.

However, the knockdown chain warriors with bull's strike, devastating hammer, hammer bash, and shock make my monk's life a living hell.

Evilsod

Evilsod

Banned

Join Date: Mar 2006

England

Lievs Death Squad [LDS]

These guys are priceless when they come at you while your playing Cripshotter. Calling you a coward for staying out of range... so you stop... lay a barbed trap... and they run straight over it ^^

God i love morons who play warriors.

Not all warrior builds need a speed burst you know... Hammstorm!

milan

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

BONE

N/

Congratulations on making your point in such a manner, welcome to Guru by the way.

Perhaps if you were to leave your pent up agression/disdain at the door you'd be listened to a little more.

frickett

frickett

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Shinigami Keys [SHIN]

R/Mo

I am not good at kiting, I feel that if I am moving around I am not helping my team, I cant cast if I am always running. And if I slow down i get "ragefaced" as you guys put it. I am trying to get better though.

Of course warrior's dont want you to kite. Even the ones that know you arent a dishonorable noob. They will try to say things to get under your skin to make you stand still, don't listen to them.

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

W/

I hope you don't believe anyone really expects you to just stand there and "fight like a man." The warriors or r/n's (whatever) are simply agitated that you're interfering with their path to glory. So they strike out at you the only way they can. "what ya running for you noob coward!"

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

I don't understand the point of this thread.

lol guys check this there are nubs in ra did you know???? i pwn them all the time ROFL

gene terrodon

gene terrodon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Maryland/DC Area

Farmers Unite [FU]

W/

I play warrior with no speed boost...and my solution to kiters is the ground.
You can't kite on if your on back.
I beat on another warrior until my skills are charged and then I target squishies.

DH, HB, BS ftw.

Add some stonefist guantlets and bonus dmg while down, the only kiters I see are dead kiters.
I can get up to 325 damage in one chain (276 of the damage is armor ignoring)

So if you see my Hammer Wammo comming...RUN and RUN fast, because there is no kiting for you.

P.S. - The enchant I have on me is NOT mending.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove
The axe and sword warriors usually have laughable damage output that doesn't even register until you have 3 of them on you.
Uh-huh. And that's precisely why axe warriors are more popular than hammer in high-level GvG?

Lykan

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Evilsod
These guys are priceless when they come at you while your playing Cripshotter. Calling you a coward for staying out of range... so you stop... lay a barbed trap... and they run straight over it ^^

God i love morons who play warriors.
Its not just warriors, its assasins too, I had a couple in AB last night while playing cripshot, they come at you with their 6 hit combos and expect you to stand there and take the damage, then when you blind them, poison them, hunters shot them and crip them you get called a "coward". Pardon me for not letting you kill me, i'm so sorry. Running and staying alive is part of the game.

Alfrond

Alfrond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

The United States

Boston Guild [BG]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kakumei
I don't understand the point of this thread.

lol guys check this there are nubs in ra did you know???? i pwn them all the time ROFL
My interpretation is that this thread is a counter argument to the idea that kiting is somehow cowardly or dishonorable.

Bolygo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Endangered Feces [DoDo]

Mo/

Kiting is a vital part of a PvP monk. Dont be upset because of the i-fight-with-honor-and-die-even-tho-i-had-healing-breeze people, just kite.

Kakumei

Kakumei

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grind is subjective

learn this please

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfrond
My interpretation is that this thread is a counter argument to the idea that kiting is somehow cowardly or dishonorable.
I didn't know an argument like that existed anywhere outside of RA. Yes, newer or dumber players there will bitch about people who kite. This is not new. This thread is like saying "guys, check it out, if you go outside it's really bright".

moriz

moriz

??ber t??k-n??sh'??n

Join Date: Jan 2006

Canada

R/

i was warming up in RA one day, and 3 warriors decide to chase me across the map. obviously, i did what i was supposed to do: run, cast, run, cast.... until i realized that none of them had speed boosts (or were unwilling to use them). then i just ran in a circle until my teammates took them out.

moral of the story is: bring a run buff, damn it!

Mister O

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I don't run away from warrior/ranger/assassin, THEY RUN AWAY FROM ME

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kassad
If your a monk that gets constantly owned by the premade axe and war builds in RA, go cry somewhere else or go GVG.

You obviously must learn how to understand what people are trying to say.


The OP pwns whammo's by kiting, the whammo's whine, and the OP 'whines' because they whine.

Marth Reynolds

Marth Reynolds

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Netherlands

The Lore Enforcers

Me/A

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
You obviously must learn how to understand what people are trying to say.


The OP pwns whammo's by kiting, the whammo's whine, and the OP 'whines' because they whine.
jeah very usefull xD,
Btw Kiting is just to stay alive the reason why the warriors or thumpers generally hunt you down is to add some presure, because monk's are useless if they need to run to stay alive and their time to heal others will diminish.
it's also in the group's best intrest to "pressure" enemy monks.

nebuchanezzar

nebuchanezzar

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2005

功夫之王

N/

Ok, yes we all know kiting is bar none the best damage mitigation vs melee or PBAoE. Cant touch me, cant kill me.
Ok, yes we all know RA/AB has plenty of ....unknowledgable/inexperienced players who play by some imaginary rules that anything I do to kill them or ruin their perfect omgwtfpwnage in 3hits build.
Kiting is running. Running with speed boosts is just running faster.
The only time I find running inexcusable is if your griefing. If you cannot rez your team or have an avenue to victory then its just being a prick. However, running to regen E for one final volley to unload is understandable.
Is the point of this that newbs and noobs rant about kiting?!? As true as that is this post is not going to educate them. Forum readers tend to actually have a little brains.
BTW...armor < 80AL means you kite w/half a brain.

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

Pre-Searing Vanquisher

Join Date: Jun 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

This isn't the rant forum. In fact, we don't even have one of those here on Guru....

Keep your rants to yourself please.