Need support for an idea of mine.

Halc yon

Halc yon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sardelac Sanitarium Society

W/

I'm looking to start a rather unique guild, and I need a few people to help me get this idea off the ground.

The Guild Wars 1v1 Championships [GW1C]. This name may be reconsidered.

My goal is to moderate 1v1 battles where 2 players can choose to duke it out for a wager of gold.

For example:

Player A and Player B wants to fight for a wager of 10000 gold. They each will give GWFC Moderators 10000 gold + 100g as an invitation fee. They will then fight to the death and the winner will receive the wagered gold minus 10%. The 10% will go into purchasing a grand prize for tournaments and such.


Wagers must be no less than 1000 gold and must be wagered in units of 1000 gold. (ex. 1000g, 2000g, 3000g, etc.)

A record of wins, losses, and draws will be kept. If Guru allows, I wish to display the records and names on this site and possibly name the guild the Guru 1v1 Championships[G1C].

After a while, if this system is successful, the Guild will invite 16 of the best warriors for a tournament to win a grand prize.


This idea is still in the works for me but if anyone is interested in helping me get it started let me know.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

This system is just too susceptible to a scam. I certainly wouldn't trust someone with that much gold.

Halc yon

Halc yon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Sardelac Sanitarium Society

W/

Yah, that's why you gotta build up a good reputation as a guild.

Doomlord_Slayermann

Doomlord_Slayermann

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Chicago IL

Dark Phoenix Risin [DPR]

W/P

Forgive my pessimism, but you will never do that. Ever. Since no one's going to trust you to begin with, you will have nothing to build on, thus you will never build any sort of reputation.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

considering 1 on 1 doesnt really work too well in this game...

xXa1

xXa1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

this game isn't called "Guild" Wars for nothing you know ... no offense, but 1 on 1 is just another case of my w/e being bigger than your w/e.

/not signed

Zorian Direspell

Zorian Direspell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

I don't really play this game anymore, but I was swooping by (to see if there was any really impressive update) when I saw your post. It sounds like a good idea, so allow me to suggest a way it could be done:

1. You offer to set up a 1v1 duel in exchange for a 100g recording/invitation fee.
2. The combatants duel. Your record their names, and put them both on the friends' list of a PC generated for record keeping purposes.
3. At the end of the combat, the combatants exchange the appropriate sum of gold.
4. If the losing combatant does not exchange the appropriate amount of gold, you record that combatant's name permanently on the record keeping PC's friend list so that you can keep track of that account. Any person who does this is kept on the record keeping PC and their account is banned from having duels hosted by you for one year from the date of the duel (you'll need an actual notepad for this). At the end of one year the name is cleared (mostly so that you can add new names to the friends' list without having to make multiple characters). If the losing combatant pays, that combatant will have his/her name immediately removed from the record keeping PC's friends' list and may request a guild sanctioned duel at any time.
5. At the end of the duel, assuming the losing combatant paid, the winning combatant should pay a 10% tithe to the guild. The combatants should be informed of this tithe before the duel begins. If the winning combatant pays, the winning combatant's name is removed from the record keeping PC's friends' list. Otherwise it is keep on the list for one year, as per the process of (4). If the winning combatant pays, that combatant's name is then removed from the record keeping PC's list, the duel is recorded (for future reference purposes, also on a notepad) and the duel is ended.

This would avoid any scam on your part and discourage scams on their part (which is really the best you can do). Best of luck to you.

PS You may need more than one record keeping PC, obviously ... but a whole guild full should work.

Tainek

Tainek

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

[Rage]

2v2 is just about the minimum in this game, 1v1 just fails to work well at all in this game, it becomes a giant game of rock paper Sissors, and playing skill is irrelevant

Mrscoombes

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Crimson Skullfuks

A/R

I smell an abundance of mesmers,touchers and hot steppers 0_o

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

well the "1v1" arenas in nightfall will actually be "1+henchs V 1+henchs"

Youd be better off finding people who are into this in-game than here on the forums... most of the people who actually come here often are pretty much set with their guild/no-guild

Invite me as a guest maybe- Ill take some money

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zorian Direspell
I don't really play this game anymore, but I was swooping by (to see if there was any really impressive update) when I saw your post. It sounds like a good idea, so allow me to suggest a way it could be done:

1. You offer to set up a 1v1 duel in exchange for a 100g recording/invitation fee.
2. The combatants duel. Your record their names, and put them both on the friends' list of a PC generated for record keeping purposes.
3. At the end of the combat, the combatants exchange the appropriate sum of gold.
4. If the losing combatant does not exchange the appropriate amount of gold, you record that combatant's name permanently on the record keeping PC's friend list so that you can keep track of that account. Any person who does this is kept on the record keeping PC and their account is banned from having duels hosted by you for one year from the date of the duel (you'll need an actual notepad for this). At the end of one year the name is cleared (mostly so that you can add new names to the friends' list without having to make multiple characters). If the losing combatant pays, that combatant will have his/her name immediately removed from the record keeping PC's friends' list and may request a guild sanctioned duel at any time.
5. At the end of the duel, assuming the losing combatant paid, the winning combatant should pay a 10% tithe to the guild. The combatants should be informed of this tithe before the duel begins. If the winning combatant pays, the winning combatant's name is removed from the record keeping PC's friends' list. Otherwise it is keep on the list for one year, as per the process of (4). If the winning combatant pays, that combatant's name is then removed from the record keeping PC's list, the duel is recorded (for future reference purposes, also on a notepad) and the duel is ended.

This would avoid any scam on your part and discourage scams on their part (which is really the best you can do). Best of luck to you.

PS You may need more than one record keeping PC, obviously ... but a whole guild full should work.
That will probably cost way too much money for NCSoft just to add on this feature...

And how will monks fight in this at all? I doubt a monk can kill someone with smites when its 1v1....

Interesting idea though. If you can make it hard to scam, cost evective on NCSoft's part, and have all classes to fight, then I'll like this. Untill then

/unsigned

Zorian Direspell

Zorian Direspell

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

/sigh. It's clear from both the poster's original post and my response that I am not suggesting the implementation of an idea by A-net. I'm suggesting internal guild controls to the OP that would be conducive to his idea and prevent scams against the process. All of the measures I mentioned would have to be taken by his guild. For example, a 'notepad' is a bunch of paper with a cardboard backing you use to keep, well, notes on. It would be silly for me to suggest notepad records to A-net. The PC generated for record keeping purposes would have to be a PC that a guild member creates (and more than one guild member may need to create them, if business picks up).

As for how the OP would set it up so that there would be 1v1 in game, that's his problem.

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

You would need someone to join as mod for both sides of this. This idea is ENTIRELY plausable, but first you need further connections and someone willing to at least GUEST to your guild that people would trust. Our own guild is slowly builiding a trusting and fair rep among the community but we've had to play with people and post here for a long time before getting any recognition. Heh you are CERTAINLY going to run into people who do NOT trust the system or the players no matter what.

Those people do not need to play in your matches. Start out with low cost/prize or do as others have done and donate your own gold to the winner. If you do not keep with the rules (no flag use or use of NPCs) then you are going to run into trouble. Have it all dealt out and in writing - if you want to run high stakes matches make sure its with clients who have played before or you know from others can be trusted.

Get all of the guidelines ironed out and get a few people willing to drop a 100g just to try and beat someone up and work from there. Make sure that when you type up the rules and guidelines that you make no way for you yourself to be liable unless you run off with someones monies.

Good luck and I know with some hard work you can get this moving. I don't know of anyone who doesn't trust me personally (even when they don't like me they know I wont screw them over lol). So if ya need a stand in let me know but ONLY after you have everything else in place. PM me when ya do and if you need any further help.
Our guild is also working on hosting a tourney in the near future, you might be able to visit our guild hall or when it gets posted on here you can get some better ideas and outlines from it.
Good Luck and don't let the naysayers keep ya down.

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

I say it should be 4v4 instead of 1v1.
But I'm still shaky on the money factor, other than that it's alright.

BrotherGilburt

BrotherGilburt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

USA

Mo/

It won't work.

A monk can't kill an Interupt Ranger.
A warrior can't kill an airspiker that blind them.

This is a team game.

/notsigned

Also why have a guild hold the gold??? NPC???

Brother Gilburt

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

An interesting idea but like the "merchant" guild idea this will never take off.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Halc yon
Player A and Player B wants to fight for a wager of 10000 gold. They each will give GWFC Moderators 10000 gold + 100g as an invitation fee. They will then fight to the death and the winner will receive the wagered gold minus 10%. The 10% will go into purchasing a grand prize for tournaments and such.
Where are you going to get a GWFC moderator? The Guild Wars Factions Championship is over...


/notsigned

Voltar

Voltar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

My dog let's me crash at her place.

POB

R/

yeah, that's an interesting idea. just expect it to take a lot of work. as far as the trust thing, i think people are just excited about shooting down an idea. i like dueling and wish the game had an internal system for that. as for the people who are weirding out over, "omg monk vs ranger!"...do you only have 1 character?

i wouldn't stress over those folks, dueling in this game is fun and since the scrimmage feature was added, a great way to check out the effectiveness of a build before jumping into an arena.