Power Level against user agreement or not?

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

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Join Date: Jul 2006

I've been seeing a lot of ads for power leveling in droks lately and I thought hey thats a nice way to make some extra cash with my monk.
However, with Anet being so keen on the 'ban' button lately, I don't wanna do anything possibly illegal. My question: Is Power Leveling against the user agreement or not? And will Arenanet take steps against it? (supposedly, I know you guys cant know for sure) Thanks in advance

Sekkira

Sekkira

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Join Date: Apr 2005

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Yeah definately, just as they're taking steps against runners. That includes people that are level 20 and go back to earlier missions to help people through with ease.

I got banned for giving away an item too.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

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Power lvling has been around for the longest time and Anet has never spoken out against it. I highly doubt it's technically against the UA, if it is then they don't actually care.

Kobun King

Kobun King

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No and no.

@ Sekkia: whatever.

floppinghog

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did you even read the agreement?


no and no, banned for playing with someone? lol yeah ok

Saphatorael

Saphatorael

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I think it's only against the EULA if those services are done for real life currency... If you want to get powerleveled (for in-game gold), it's your own choice, still... same for doing some powerleveling on other people's characters, as long as it's for in-game currency.

Sekkira

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It's true, I swear guys!

WHY WONT YOU BELIEVE ME OMG

The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

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Join Date: Jan 2006

Dublin, Ireland

Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
as far as I'm concerned anyone that powerlvls or gets power lvl'd has disgraced themselves
Don't be stupid- what if someone, like myself, has already played throught the game, but wants to make a PvE character to use in PvP for additional weapon slots, Armour switching etc? Should they really have to put themselves through an element of the game which they don't enjoy?

Malice Black

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Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Yeah definately, just as they're taking steps against runners. That includes people that are level 20 and go back to earlier missions to help people through with ease.

I got banned for giving away an item too.
LOL sarcasm FTW

PL does no harm to anyone, it is there for those that do not wish to grind to lvl20 everytime they make a new char.

I have used PL services and so has many many ppl in the game..would they ban us all? i think not

Knightsaber Sith

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The Real Roy Keane

The Real Roy Keane

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Yes they should; it's the price you pay for those weapon slots and armor switching. You're supposed to earn what you want. If they're not normally available(to a pvp only character) you can earn them by making a pve character for that purpose. At any rate; you can't convince me to change my personal opinion nor should I have to justify it to the likes of you so keep your eyes on the road and perhaps read what this thread is actually about.
relax man, didn't mean any personal offense to yourself..

Kobun King

Kobun King

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Originally Posted by Sekkira
It's true, I swear guys!

WHY WONT YOU BELIEVE ME OMG
Working sarcasm detectors. Ha.

Malice Black

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Yes they should; it's the price you pay for those weapon slots and armor switching. You're supposed to earn what you want. If they're not normally available(to a pvp only character) you can earn them by making a pve character for that purpose. At any rate; you can't convince me to change my personal opinion nor should I have to justify it to the likes of you so keep your eyes on the road and perhaps read what this thread is actually about.
I disagree, the money paid to the PLer in most cases would have been earned by some kind of farming/trading..so whats the difference of paying money you have earned and playing through the game? imo there is none.

Im all for ppl having an opinion and sticking to it but i fail to see the logic of grinding through the game when there is others means of doing it.

Kobun King

Kobun King

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Yes they should; it's the price you pay for those weapon slots and armor switching. You're supposed to earn what you want. If they're not normally available(to a pvp only character) you can earn them by making a pve character for that purpose. At any rate; you can't convince me to change my personal opinion nor should I have to justify it to the likes of you so keep your eyes on the road and perhaps read what this thread is actually about.
So basically you want us to take your word for it? Yeah, anyways.

PS it was on topic, as it is one of the reasons people power level.

The Admins Bane: The problem is the pve carebear scrub "THK IS HARD" quagmire it creates when people who haven't grinded through the game before get powered level and have no idea what they're doing/how to play the game, not those who have already done the grind before.

Monk Mystic

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lol if they start banning people for stuff like this i would be AMAZED. In prophs i ran all over the place all the time and was one of the most noted PLers around. so if people were being banned for this stuff, im pretty sure i would have been one of the first. it would be the same thing as them banning people for CRing. its not going to happen.

The Herbalizer

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To the op no you wont get banned unless you pay real life money for it or offer it for real money.

I have only played through the game once in my 16 months of plaing gw. There is only so much ascalon, northern shiverpeaks, jungle grind i can take. The best missions are desert, southern shiverpeaks and fire island hence why I get power lvled.

The forced factions grind is one of the reasons i hate it sooo much. being forced to do that city crap over and over is rediculously boring just like having to do ascalon over and over would be.

Malice Black

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobun King
So basically you want us to take your word for it? Yeah, anyways.

PS it was on topic, as it is one of the reasons people power level.

The Admins Bane: The problem is the pve carebear scrub "THK IS HARD" quagmire it creates when people who haven't grinded through the game before get powered level and have no idea what they're doing/how to play the game, not those who have already done the grind before.
I agree that ppl should play through the game properly atleast once just to get the exp ect but at the end of the day it comes down to personal choice.

PL will never be removed so you just have to avoid the ppl that rush their first char hrough without learning the basics.

BTW THK is a great mission...one of the few more interesting tho slightly dragged out missions, easily done with even a semi organized PuG group

Knightsaber Sith

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobun King
PS it was on topic, as it is one of the reasons people power level.
A reason why people power lvl has nothing to do with whether or not power lvling is agianst the EULA.

Power lvling is not against the EULA; I have no idea why anyone would even ask; and they need to close this thread already.

Kobun King

Kobun King

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
A reason why people power lvl has nothing to do with whether or not power lvling is agianst the EULA.

Power lvling is not against the EULA; I have no idea why anyone would even ask; and they need to close this thread already.



Either way, you have a point about this topic being stupid.

-Loki-

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Originally Posted by Sekkira
I got banned for giving away an item too.
Bloody scammer.

Does-it-Matter

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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Real Roy Keane
Don't be stupid- what if someone, like myself, has already played throught the game, but wants to make a PvE character to use in PvP for additional weapon slots, Armour switching etc? Should they really have to put themselves through an element of the game which they don't enjoy?
Yes. Yes, in fact you should, because that's the oppertunity cost of performing such an action. If you want an "instantly ready to PvP" character, well, that's what a PvP slot is for.

Otherwise, you're making a "PvE" character to do anything but, which seems sort of backwards to put it nicely.

"I want to make money/get a good job, but I don't want to have to work for it / go to school."

"I want to go from point A to point B without all that "in between stuff."

Well, I guess that's the "have it now" generation for you.

Nivryx

Nivryx

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people still PL? i just go to cantha, easy quests with high xp rewards ftw. i suppose you could say im PL'ing myself, since i do end up with plenty of money thanks to the quests as well.

Curse You

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I got my Elementalist to level 17 long ago, by first fighting in Ascalon Arena, then in Shiverpeak Arena, and by just doing quests and the missions up to Borlis Pass (I still haven't done the mission). I had gotten my elementalist run to Droknars when I was still fighting in the Ascalon Arena (cheap, I know). I then just abondoned her because I just didn't want to bother with any of the missions.

When Factions came out, I dusted off my elementalist, who had been sitting in Lion's Arch for some time. I then PL myself through doing most of the quests in Kaineng Center and Wajjun Bazaar. It cost me probably -4000 gold (I made money) and I got to keep all the drops.

Now, why did I post this long story? Because it proves that there is NO reason to bother getting a PL anymore (as long as you have both campaigns). You have the option of just doing a lot of low level PvP, doing some missions, or just by doing the Kaineng City quests.

However, I guess some people just can't be bothered doing even that.

Kobun King

Kobun King

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Does-it-Matter
Yes. Yes, in fact you should, because that's the oppertunity cost of performing such an action. If you want an "instantly ready to PvP" character, well, that's what a PvP slot is for.

Otherwise, you're making a "PvE" character to do anything but, which seems sort of backwards to put it nicely.

"I want to make money/get a good job, but I don't want to have to work for it / go to school."

"I want to go from point A to point B without all that "in between stuff."

Well, I guess that's the "have it now" generation for you.
Pve characters are still better than pvp since pve characters can get weapons with mods you can't roll on pvp characters, multiple armor sets, and probably something else I've over looked.

@ Nivryx: Not everybody owns Factions, believe it or not.

Arkantos

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W/

The question has been answered many times, and this thread's getting a bit off topic. Closed.