ok all u leets out there....
visitor
Ive seen many guys going all "cmon hells precipice(can never spell it anyway the last mission in prophecies)is the easyest mission in whole game i beat it with henchmen only".Ok so heres my question: what builds are you guys using? I never actually tryed to hench hells but i think u need more than just lots of adranel skills so plz help
Skuld
You can use anything, just make sure you have a flatbow for pulling, and are careful.
Arkantos
W/R and use winter. Pretty much any build will do as long as you have this skill.
DeanBB
It helps greatly to know the mission well, you're not going to go out and beat it with henchies on your first try.
With my warrior I took Mending and Watchful Spirit on myself for +5 regen, Rebirth for near-wipes, Cleave, Executioners, 2 Signets of Capture (so used both Eviscerate and Cleave, sweet!), and not sure on the last, maybe Watch Yourself? The dual axe elites cranked out a lot of damage.
Mostly it was patience, good timing and pulling of enemies to avoid over-aggro and running away to rebirth henchies if things turned ugly, which they did a few times.
On my monk I believe I was fully smiting.
With my warrior I took Mending and Watchful Spirit on myself for +5 regen, Rebirth for near-wipes, Cleave, Executioners, 2 Signets of Capture (so used both Eviscerate and Cleave, sweet!), and not sure on the last, maybe Watch Yourself? The dual axe elites cranked out a lot of damage.
Mostly it was patience, good timing and pulling of enemies to avoid over-aggro and running away to rebirth henchies if things turned ugly, which they did a few times.
On my monk I believe I was fully smiting.
visitor
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Originally Posted by Skuld
You can use anything, just make sure you have a flatbow for pulling, and are careful.
will a hornbow do?
DeanBB
You want the max range of a long or flat bow. The bow itself doesn't matter, go farm a cruddy bow in Ascalon, you're not using it for damage just getting their attention.
Rera
Flatbows and Longbows have the longest attack range, which is why they're used for pulling. A hornbow can work, but not as well.
I like to bring a few interrupts because the Sparks and Wraiths have annoying aoe skills like Rodgort's, Eruption, and Chain Lightning.
I like to bring a few interrupts because the Sparks and Wraiths have annoying aoe skills like Rodgort's, Eruption, and Chain Lightning.
Tachyon
Pardon my ignorance, but what are "leets"?
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Azagoth
Pardon my ignorance, but what are "leets"?
leet=elite. What the OP means is "all you elite warriors"
oHcHeese
1337 = leet = elite = the best of the best ?
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I don't know about a build tbh, never tried to hench it...
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I don't know about a build tbh, never tried to hench it...
Yanman.be
Personal skill( knowing the game )>build.
Yukito Kunisaki
Flat/Longbow is definitely doable...
Reason you want an all henchie build is because people in essence on average are quite dumber than henchies.
If your henchies die [aka, 2 or more die, you can just make a WILD run away to a safer area and chances are very good you just saved yourself from a total wipe. Can PuGs do this? For my experience, hell no...
Learn to pull correctly: shoot and run away to stop hench warriors from engaging too early...
Run away when you're losing: easier done with 'mindless' henchies than players with minds...
Always gloat when you do it so that people know how skillful you are... I for one believe it takes a LOT of 'uncommon' sense [common to all you good players] to win in PvE...
skill for pve that more people need?
Learn to retreat, you're not a loser for doing it, you're actually keeping the mission alive. Henchies run when you do... thereby smart mindless players... {^_^}
Learn to follow targets, nobody, and I mean NOBODY in about 95% of the PvE groups I've been in [guildmates exclusive] know how to do target calling procedures... Henchies do though...
Accept henchies when there are no monks. Chances are VERY good that you'll still manage to beat the mission even with a Human monk there... Sheesh, these people join my group [I'm serious] saying they waited for 4 hours for a monk, I claim monkless wins, grab henchies, win mission, and then they ask me why they wasted their time waiting for human monks...
Reason you want an all henchie build is because people in essence on average are quite dumber than henchies.
If your henchies die [aka, 2 or more die, you can just make a WILD run away to a safer area and chances are very good you just saved yourself from a total wipe. Can PuGs do this? For my experience, hell no...
Learn to pull correctly: shoot and run away to stop hench warriors from engaging too early...
Run away when you're losing: easier done with 'mindless' henchies than players with minds...
Always gloat when you do it so that people know how skillful you are... I for one believe it takes a LOT of 'uncommon' sense [common to all you good players] to win in PvE...
skill for pve that more people need?
Learn to retreat, you're not a loser for doing it, you're actually keeping the mission alive. Henchies run when you do... thereby smart mindless players... {^_^}
Learn to follow targets, nobody, and I mean NOBODY in about 95% of the PvE groups I've been in [guildmates exclusive] know how to do target calling procedures... Henchies do though...
Accept henchies when there are no monks. Chances are VERY good that you'll still manage to beat the mission even with a Human monk there... Sheesh, these people join my group [I'm serious] saying they waited for 4 hours for a monk, I claim monkless wins, grab henchies, win mission, and then they ask me why they wasted their time waiting for human monks...
Ogel
I just finished Abaddon's Mouth (same thing, right?? 
) with my Warrior. My full advice is:
Unless you're skillcapping something, go W/Mo with Rebirth. And if you want to be REALLY crappy, do what I did and go 16 Smiting/12 Tactics. It actually works, since you're already in the back to run like hell when things go south.
Note, never EVER try the above with humans. I can attest to that.
) with my Warrior. My full advice is:Unless you're skillcapping something, go W/Mo with Rebirth. And if you want to be REALLY crappy, do what I did and go 16 Smiting/12 Tactics. It actually works, since you're already in the back to run like hell when things go south.
Note, never EVER try the above with humans. I can attest to that.
Arkantos
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Originally Posted by Ogel
I just finished Abaddon's Mouth (same thing, right?? ) with my Warrior. My full advice is:
Unless you're skillcapping something, go W/Mo with Rebirth. And if you want to be REALLY crappy, do what I did and go 16 Smiting/12 Tactics. It actually works, since you're already in the back to run like hell when things go south.
Note, never EVER try the above with humans. I can attest to that. Hell's is full of titans. Abaddon's is full of mursaat/jade. BIG difference. Rebirth is a good skill, But I prefer W/R for winter in hells. It makes a huge difference in the un-coordinated damage done by henchies.
) with my Warrior. My full advice is:Unless you're skillcapping something, go W/Mo with Rebirth. And if you want to be REALLY crappy, do what I did and go 16 Smiting/12 Tactics. It actually works, since you're already in the back to run like hell when things go south.
Note, never EVER try the above with humans. I can attest to that. Hell's is full of titans. Abaddon's is full of mursaat/jade. BIG difference. Rebirth is a good skill, But I prefer W/R for winter in hells. It makes a huge difference in the un-coordinated damage done by henchies.
Mars Dragonblade
I managed to hench it with my ranger a-g-e-s ago, but it wasn't in anyway skill, just LOTS of patience and tonnes of resurrects lol .
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Rera
I think a ranger has an easier time, actually. The big damage in this mission comes from a few key skills, and if you're good at tab-interrupt you can shut down all of the monster offense easily. Then it's just a matter of grinding through the burning->risen->hand+fist progression for each group.