The COOLNESS of pre-evolved ELDER wolfs and black widows?

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

14 Sep 2006 at 07:59 - 1

I realise this is down to opinion, but I wanted to ask yours!

Is it considered cool to just go out and capture an elder wolf or an elder black widow? Or do you get insulted for capturing a pre-evolved creature?

For instance "oh look, hes got an elder wolf... I bet he just captured that because he couldnt be bothered to evolve it!"

Or "wow cool, an elder wolf... thats sweet. Nice one!!!"

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Idiot Savants [iQ]

14 Sep 2006 at 11:23 - 2

Teutonic Paladin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

14 Sep 2006 at 11:26 - 3

I don't really get the question... How would they know? Is it impossibly to evolve an Elder Pet? And Spiders are BAD... "Shields Up!"

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

14 Sep 2006 at 11:34 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sha Noran

Wolves suck anyway as they howl and are annoying. People will hate that you have one whether you captured it evolved or not.

Spiders are only available evolved, so as there is no other option, there isn't anything they could say really. Well my ele has a Pheonix anyway and the last I checked they make a stupid wooshing noise every 2 seconds :P

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

14 Sep 2006 at 11:36 - 5

Quote:

Originally Posted by Teutonic Paladin

I don't really get the question... How would they know? Is it impossibly to evolve an Elder Pet? And Spiders are BAD... "Shields Up!" Well the "Elder" bit is its evolution, so I would assume you cant evolve it any further.

Plus a ranger who knows their pets would know if its a captured elder wolf or a normal elder wolf. I think they look different!

I could be wrong.

Sha Noran

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

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Idiot Savants [iQ]

14 Sep 2006 at 11:42 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I could be wrong. You are.

Yakumo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Hearts Of Fury [HoF]

14 Sep 2006 at 11:42 - 7

It doesn't matter to me personally. I'll more likely say 'wow, cool pet, don't see many of those around', or 'lol, nice name'.

I've recently evolved my Melandru's Stalker to Elder, but who would know once I've named her? (erm... other than those reading this

)... so the same should apply to the Wolf.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

14 Sep 2006 at 12:41 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sha Noran

You are. suttle

Agatsu

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

14 Sep 2006 at 18:37 - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Is it considered cool to just go out and capture an elder wolf or an elder black widow? If you can find the pet you want already in the evolution you want you have merely used your skill in exploring to find it in an existing part of the game.

To me that = *cool*

IMO - its not always easy to evolve a pet to the disired result. I have tried to evolve a few pets - sorry to say they never ended up the way I wanted them to.
My current pet is the Black Moa which can only be captured as eldar, at lvl 20.

Not to sound to *adult* here - dont worry so much about what others say to you in game - there will always be "griefers" and age has nothing to do with it. If you want to play a certain way - go for it - someone will ALWAYS find fault with the way you play GW because its not the way they feel it should be played.

Now go get that spider!!

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

14 Sep 2006 at 21:11 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sha Noran

Wolves suck anyway as they howl and are annoying. People will hate that you have one whether you captured it evolved or not.

Spiders are only available evolved, so as there is no other option, there isn't anything they could say really. -.- I like my wolves....and I could care less if others don't like their howl.

As for the OP, if you rename your pet, no one can really tell how it's evolved. There is nothing wrong with any evolution since any advantage in offense is countered in defense and vice versa. Since the damage/defense advantages are balanced out either way, the evolution of your pet matters little. Anyone calling you a 'noob' just because you either capped a pet or have a pet of a certain type of evolution on your pet is pretty pathetic imo.

If you do have a bear as a pet, some people may flame you since they have a slower attack speed with no other advantage to make up for this weakness...

beaverlegions

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Siege Turtles

15 Sep 2006 at 00:09 - 11

I luv my spider, but does anyone know what is different between a lvl 20 elder strider and a lvl 20 elder moa bird, and the lvl 20 black moa brid.

Wolydarg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

15 Sep 2006 at 02:25 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaverlegions

I luv my spider, but does anyone know what is different between a lvl 20 elder strider and a lvl 20 elder moa bird, and the lvl 20 black moa brid. I bet I could tell the black moa bird apart from the other ones

I like my black widow because I sometimes imagine it climbing walls and stuff

When it comes down to it, I could care less what other people think of my pets... they could be like "lol, dat pet sux since it attacks slowa than otha pets" and I could be like "bear, go rape him"

To the OP, you're going to be defined "cool" by some people, and "just another ranger with a pet" by others...pick a pet you like and won't abadon after playing with it for an hour or 2..

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

15 Sep 2006 at 08:04 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by beaverlegions

I luv my spider, but does anyone know what is different between a lvl 20 elder strider and a lvl 20 elder moa bird, and the lvl 20 black moa brid. Arent black moa Birds rare?

From what Ive read they can only be found in a certain location within the canthan forest.

And their only accessible during and after a certain quest.

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

15 Sep 2006 at 08:07 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agatsu

Not to sound to *adult* here - dont worry so much about what others say to you in game - there will always be "griefers" and age has nothing to do with it. Well being the "mature" 24 year old that I am...... (if you believe the mature part)

Im not that bothered what anyone thinks, but I do have to admit to just wanting an elder pet to show off :P

Agatsu

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

15 Sep 2006 at 11:41 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Arent black moa Birds rare?

From what Ive read they can only be found in a certain location within the canthan forest..

The Black Moa can only be found in this one spot:

Quote: And their only accessible during and after a certain quest. There is a quest that takes you to the black Moa. But If you have already completed it and did not charm it during the quest the Black Moa always spawns in this general area, sometimes a bit farther North, you need to look around for it a bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

I do have to admit to just wanting an elder pet to show off :P Sorry, but unlike some other pets the Black Moa doesnt say *elder*in its name, it just says *Black Moa*, even if you reset the name.

Buns United

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Holland, ZHZ

R/W

15 Sep 2006 at 11:51 - 16

Basicly, it doesn't matter what pet you have, just take whichever you like most.
*example* I got myself an Elder Black Widow, I don't care about the elder but so just call him Elder Bunny. Untill there's actually charmable bunnies in the game I'm keeping what I have. Incase there will get bunnies like that

I'll not hestitate charming one.

GL with the pet.

Vote 'Yes' for Bunnies© as Pets!

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

15 Sep 2006 at 12:00 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buns United

I'll not hestitate charming one.

GL with the pet.

Vote 'Yes' for Bunnies© as Pets! You should be able to tame them in either post-ascalon or the training island in factions.

Imagine having a huge, MOFO of a rabbit at your side, bouncing along with you.

Buns United

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

Holland, ZHZ

R/W

15 Sep 2006 at 12:03 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

You should be able to tame them in either post-ascalon or the training island in factions.

Imagine having a huge, MOFO of a rabbit at your side, bouncing along with you.

Already tried to charm the one in presearing

too bad it's 'bugged'!

Anyway yeah I already imagine having a Bunny completely mauling people.. spread word about that 'Vote *yes* for Bunnies© as Pets!'

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

16 Sep 2006 at 10:21 - 19

there is nothing wrong with caping a pet. who cairs where the pet came from since your Elder is same as my trained elder.... and there is no diffrence

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

16 Sep 2006 at 18:52 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by freekedoutfish

Arent black moa Birds rare?

From what Ive read they can only be found in a certain location within the canthan forest.

And their only accessible during and after a certain quest. Once you complete Beak of Darkness, a Black Moa will always spawn somewhere in that big clearing outside Aspenwood...

bastadon

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

17 Sep 2006 at 23:43 - 21

XvArchonvX

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

18 Sep 2006 at 01:01 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bastadon

Sort of off topic question here - I named my pet a long time ago - is there a way to check to see if it has evolved to hearty, elder, etc. ??? It is level 15 now and I thought it should of changed by now...

Thanks! just type '/petname' and leave the rest blank. This will reset the name to default. After this you can '/petname name here' to rename your pet.

Formosa

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

18 Sep 2006 at 12:55 - 23

Fact: Any pet other than Moa Birds and Crabs fail. Hard. Black Moa birds fail slightly less than all other pets, but if you want to be cool, get a REAL Moa, or a Crab.

Coolness Chart of pets
Dire Crab
Dire Moa Bird
Elder Crab
Elder Moa Bird
Hearty Crab
Hearty Moa Bird
Black Moa (EMO-a)
All other dire pets
All other elder pets
All other hearty pets

FACT

EDIT: I forgot to mention the work-around. If you have a pet other than the cool ones, simply name it "Dire Crab" (if you're too lazy to type it, copy and paste the following: "/petname Dire Crab" without the quotes). This simple action can gain you several cool points.

EDIT2: Red Crabs > Blue Crabs

EDIT3: Red Dire Crab with MAAGIK HAAT > All

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

18 Sep 2006 at 20:32 - 24

actually red crabs are earlier in the game, and they look cooked so blues are cooler

humorously enough I train a new pet about every other week depending on how busy I am at work and my mood though, currently its a dire snow wolf

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

19 Sep 2006 at 08:55 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Formosa

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

19 Sep 2006 at 12:03 - 26

I my opinion the only "cool" pet are the one who are used for combat, rather than looking good, like my ranger is currently raising a whit tiger because I like playing beastmaster builds.

Coolness:
Beastmasters
B/P team builds
IWAY builds ( i guess)
You like animals
raising your own pet
Finding a pre lvl 20 pet without paying 20K for it

Lameness:
Looking good (e.g having a spider cause it makes u look like a pro)
paying someone to get you to a pre lvl 20 pet

Lirael

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

Guild Wars Gurus

R/E

20 Sep 2006 at 17:48 - 27

Coolness:
Having an all guild group volunteer to go down to the underworld with you because you want the spider. Coolness factor = off the chizang!

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

21 Sep 2006 at 04:51 - 28

coolness is there only if you know how to use your pet

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

21 Sep 2006 at 15:16 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maria The Princess

coolness is there only if you know how to use your pet Well said

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

21 Sep 2006 at 17:06 - 30

Bah, 2.4 mill experience on my Ranger.

I've only ever had one pet.

My Pre-Sear Melandrues Stalker.

Whenever I do ToPK "Fur Ball" last longer than all the other pets.

I could really careless about "coolness" and agree fully with Maria

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

21 Sep 2006 at 18:32 - 31

I just like the sounds the crabs and moas make the best, thats the 'cool' part. When I go all beast mastery or b/p are the only times I use him though. With regards to topk though, there you WANT your pet to die, just like iway so actually it doesn't matter what evolution you have, but generally hearty works best there just for walling. But no dead pet=no extra minions. There is a counter argument of course that if your pet's not dead its still a wall, but the minions do deal far more damage.

RuPee

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Los Angeles, CA

[RoD]

Mo/

21 Sep 2006 at 23:40 - 32

imo the evolution level that gets my respect is the dire level.

training to get a pet from level 3-5 to dire takes time and a very strict training excercise. in addition the only pet that u can cap as a dire is the black widow in uw.

i really love my original dire Moa (not the black moa). the only time im giving up my moa for a new pet is when i see some type of monkey/ape pet *crosses fingers for nightfall*.

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

22 Sep 2006 at 12:03 - 33

My Dire Tiger is only lvl 17, but I still own in AB using my beastmaster build. And extra funniness watching people get owned by a lvl 17 pet, LOL

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

22 Sep 2006 at 14:25 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by RuPee

Apocrypha

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

23 Sep 2006 at 00:34 - 35

Dire Pheonix ftw! took me 4 tries but I got it. I only chose pheonix because it's the only 'end game pet' that you have to level up yourself (if you consider spiders end game). I almost like the white tiger better too, but the pheonix goes nicely with my kuunavang.

anyway, almost all pets are the same, there are the minor differences (peircing dmg on the spider and ?lizard?) so it doesn't really matter. Any beastmaster using the pet for damage wants Dire, for b/p you might was dire or just a lvl 5 so they die faster and for tanking you want Hearty. I really don't see the big deal over Elder.