Well, we've heard some basics about the new Hero AI for nightfall. With the bit that we do know, I was wonder what people thought were on how we might control them. We've heard that we can command them to wait, follow, attack and defend thus far. But, how do you think they will impliment this? How much control will we REALLY have? Forgetting about setting skills, weapons and armor pre-battle, how will they impliment, in the heat of battle any of these commands?
*Right click menu in the party window
*Text commands
*Seperate command window
*Direct conversation, click a hero, dialog pops up with commands to select from
Any others you can think of?
Pondering Hero AI
gabrial heart
Tetris L
I hope they took the key command system from games like Tribes or UT:
You highlight a hero in the party window, then hit a key to make a small menu pop up, then hit 1 or 2 more keys to select what you want, in a tree structure.
The 3-keystrike-system from Tribes was pure genius. It was very quick to memorize the codes, and once you had the hang out of it it was faster than any other system to give orders and to communicate in a team (for bots as well as human players).
You highlight a hero in the party window, then hit a key to make a small menu pop up, then hit 1 or 2 more keys to select what you want, in a tree structure.
The 3-keystrike-system from Tribes was pure genius. It was very quick to memorize the codes, and once you had the hang out of it it was faster than any other system to give orders and to communicate in a team (for bots as well as human players).
chichory
Another thing i'm wondering about is, if you make them equip charm animal will you have to help them cap a pet or will they have their own?
Speaking of which i hope we get the same controls for our pets as we get for our hero's.
But on topic more, yeah that system would be great i think Tetris, the thing is will it get to complicated and end up being harder to play your own character as well?
Speaking of which i hope we get the same controls for our pets as we get for our hero's.
But on topic more, yeah that system would be great i think Tetris, the thing is will it get to complicated and end up being harder to play your own character as well?
Mordakai
According to PC Gamer, there will be three modes you can set your Hero on: Agressive, Defensive and Passive. You can direct them to certain areas by placing flags on your mini-map.
Knightsaber Sith
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According to PC Gamer, there will be three modes you can set your Hero on: Agressive, Defensive and Passive. You can direct them to certain areas by placing flags on your mini-map.
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gabrial heart
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Another thing i'm wondering about is, if you make them equip charm animal will you have to help them cap a pet or will they have their own?
Speaking of which i hope we get the same controls for our pets as we get for our hero's. But on topic more, yeah that system would be great i think Tetris, the thing is will it get to complicated and end up being harder to play your own character as well? |
If it is moded like it mentions in PC Gamer, do you set them pre-battle? During battle? I know we'll just have to wait and see, but it's going to be an interesting adjustment to have controlable heros on top of running your own build effectively. My personal opinion is a right-click option in the party windo would be the best, quickest way to command a hench to change tactics. I'd love to have a "disengage" option so they wouldn't just stay back and fight to thier death during bad aggro. ahhh sooo many questions i can hardely wait to get answers!
Mordakai
PC Gamer says they can have secondaries.
I would think all classes will be available (with the possible exception of Assassins and Ritualists).
Don't know how you set their "modes", don't know if they can travel with you.
I would think all classes will be available (with the possible exception of Assassins and Ritualists).
Don't know how you set their "modes", don't know if they can travel with you.
Thallandor
I hope i can set the necro hero as an MM, that will be awesome 
Blazing
I rly do hope heroes to maintein the intuitive play of Guild Wars.
I would like them to be costumized & i would also like them to be good at what we whant them to do.
By what i know placing flags its easy, just click for the Heroes to go & secure the surounding area & the path untill they reach it.
I rly hope heroes to be what i think of them & i cant really explain cause if that happens they will rule, but other wise, ihope they dont simply suck
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I would like them to be costumized & i would also like them to be good at what we whant them to do.
By what i know placing flags its easy, just click for the Heroes to go & secure the surounding area & the path untill they reach it.
I rly hope heroes to be what i think of them & i cant really explain cause if that happens they will rule, but other wise, ihope they dont simply suck
More details people search!!
Horseman Of War
I was under the impression from previous posts that you basically had to choose your three different heros as you progressed in the game... as in you needed to do NF with multiple characters to use all of them...
From the PC Gamer article, it says you will need certain ones for certain missions/quests...
I wonder how this will all play out.
I am still praying to the unholy devs of gw to give us CE ppl a special hero, it wouldnt go flashy in town like previous ones... but any group would be like :OOOH DANG WHERED U GET THAT HENCH:
From the PC Gamer article, it says you will need certain ones for certain missions/quests...
I wonder how this will all play out.
I am still praying to the unholy devs of gw to give us CE ppl a special hero, it wouldnt go flashy in town like previous ones... but any group would be like :OOOH DANG WHERED U GET THAT HENCH:
Moa Bird Cultist
Horseman of War, you my friend deserve the 'Best Idea Of The Week Award' for that, that would be awesome!
Tetris L
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Tetris, the thing is will it get to complicated and end up being harder to play your own character as well?
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Well, if you feel that it's too complicated you may always let the heroes do what their default AI tells them to do. I assume they'll be at least as smart as the henchmen are now, which is okay, especially if you give them a good set of skills and weapons to work with.
Mordakai
Well, they can at least be sent to areas on the map on there own, a huge improvement on henchies right there.
I must say, after reading the descriptions of the Heros in PC Gamer, I'm a little worried. There weren't any Monk sounding Heros. Now, I don't want to start a rumor ("Mordakai said there's no Monks!"), but I'd sure feel better if I knew the classes these heroes would be.
12 Heroes, 8 professions (supposing some are Paragon and Dervish)....
I must say, after reading the descriptions of the Heros in PC Gamer, I'm a little worried. There weren't any Monk sounding Heros. Now, I don't want to start a rumor ("Mordakai said there's no Monks!"), but I'd sure feel better if I knew the classes these heroes would be.
12 Heroes, 8 professions (supposing some are Paragon and Dervish)....
Lunarhound
I've been a little worried about how they'd work too, but I just try to keep telling myself that it will probably turn out all right in the end. I'd be willing to bet that ArenaNet did their homework before implementing Heroes. They probably studied succesful FPS and squad-based action games to see what other people have done that works before coming up with their method. I'm sure it'll turn out all right.
As for what I'd prefer, I never played Tribes, but the 3 key strike method that Tetris mentioned sounds like it'd be great to me. I could easily get used to something like that.
As for what I'd prefer, I never played Tribes, but the 3 key strike method that Tetris mentioned sounds like it'd be great to me. I could easily get used to something like that.
Paul Mahdi
I just want to know if you can move them to get out of the way for a screenshot. That'd be awesome...at least, for me it would.
Lunarhound
Sounds to me like you can, since you can click a space on the map to have them go there. Just click a space that's not in the area of the screenshot.
J3mo
Henchway buff !
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bilateralrope
Well, under a week till we get to see the hero AI for ourselves. Once I get bored with the preview, I'll do my best to break the hero AI.
KingKryton
do they get drops like the normal hench. say if u go out alone with 3 heros do u get all drops?
gamecube187
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Do we know if you can change thier secondaries even? It could very well be a primary only hero just like regular hench are now. We also don't know if we will be able to take hero's to cantha or tyria...
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I would think all classes will be available (with the possible exception of Assassins and Ritualists).
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I am still praying to the unholy devs of gw to give us CE ppl a special hero, it wouldnt go flashy in town like previous ones... but any group would be like :OOOH DANG WHERED U GET THAT HENCH:
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do they get drops like the normal hench. say if u go out alone with 3 heros do u get all drops?
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I can't wait for the event next weekend! There super henchies are probably one of the first thing I'm going to try to find!
AJM
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That's just like the minions in City of Villains!
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Trylo
well heres something i see happening with heroes..
Raise your hand if you know what SBing is!
*raisehand*
Raise your hand if you have duo'd the ENTIRE UW with SBing!
*kinda*
well... if anyone knows what it is this could be a problem as its just the easiest way to farm ever and now you can do it without another person...
the real question is do you get their drops!?
Raise your hand if you know what SBing is!
*raisehand*
Raise your hand if you have duo'd the ENTIRE UW with SBing!
*kinda*
well... if anyone knows what it is this could be a problem as its just the easiest way to farm ever and now you can do it without another person...
the real question is do you get their drops!?