Pre-Order Concept Art - Mursaat!?

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Those that bought the pre-Order Package, pop that CD in yuor Disk Drve, go to Concept art, Scroll along and DON'T telll me those aren't Mursaat.



6 Eyes, Flaiing ... Things from the ehad, Flaoting around.

Mursaat Female if you ask me.

To Compare:



The Helms / masks even look a like, And Even looks like the Knights Helm for Female Warrior, and the statues that are broken around Hero's Audience, Which we know is a place (Crystal Desert) that People came long long ago while it was still a great sea to literly "ascend" and Be able to See the "Unseen Gods" aka Mursaat. and we also OFFICIALLY know that Elona is right under the Crystal Desert.

Not to mention the first thing the booklet that came with the Pre - Order says "The God Of the Sun - Elona"

God - Sun - Nightfall - Unseen Ones - Gods - Mursaat

Seems like I'll have more use for Infused Armour After all.

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can you post anymore concept art?

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Those are Margonites.

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They look completely different O.o You use "6 eyes" as a point of comparison between the two, but the Mursaat don't have 6 eyes. They also don't have webbed skin/horn/claws on their heads. The Mursaat have those black mini-wings protruding from the middle of their back, while the protrusions on the game art are coming from the head. Also the mursaat look to have feet, that game-art pic doesn't have feet. And I just noticed taht Mursaat don't have four arms.

If anything, this monster pictured here could be related to the seer, the alien whose race fought the mursaat on another planet. Definitely not mursaat though.

The knight's helm horns and the metal tusk protrusions on the game-arts head may have similar shape, but that's about it.

Comparing that game-art to mursaat is like saying a cat is the same as a dog because they both have big ears, paws, a tail, and walk on all four.

Cat =! Dog
Mursaat =! Game-art

BTW what store had the pre-release. I checked EB, Gamestop, and Bestbuy today on the way home from work and no luck

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Definitely Margonites and also those were posted in a thread yesterday :/

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I don't have the pre release CD and I can tell you thoes are not Murssat.

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6 Eyes? Hum I thought one fo the Mursaat Types had 6 eyes.

And its CONCEPT Art, could be anything, Good to know theya re not Mursaat, All this was just speculation afterall.

Allthought to me it does look like ti took its roots from, the mursaat.

Zexion

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Try stopping the in-game cinematic at 1:40. See that monster? That is the ranger version of that enemy class. The margonites. So no, not a female mursaat!

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Here's the guy that posted them yesterday:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=22

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Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith
Here's the guy that posted them yesterday:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=22
That djinn looks kick-ass cool.

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that looks nothing like Mursat lol.

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I bought the Pre Order package at EB games, You may have to ask seeing as they are still in boces on the storage.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sam Stormwind
that looks nothing like Mursat lol.
Its a new game, I'd be damned if they use the same content over and over again.

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Actually, that pic DOES look familiar. Didn't the Seer have a few arms and look kinda like that?

That has always been a big question mark in my mind. Just WHO was this seer and he/she seemed pretty hell bent on seeing the mursaat defeated. It wasn't the Lich, but could it have been one of these characters? I had thought it might be glint in disguise, but now I'm not so sure.

I guess we'll find out when the chapter is released.

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Actually, the Seer is the master mind of all these events! The corruption of Shiro, He helped the Hero to defeat the Murssat just to release the Titan! The seers are Evil. They do all this just to prepare the return of their god, the Outcasted one!. ok, enough speculation

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Don't turn this into another conspiracy theory thread >_<

Just wait til it goes live and we can find out.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
Its a new game, I'd be damned if they use the same content over and over again.
The Dredge found their way into Factions don't forget. Aside from having updated professions, their art was exactly the same.

As far as my interpretation of that creature, I'd agree it's Seer related. Nightfall is supposed to wrap up many, many loose ends from Prophecies. I'm very intrigued. I just hope the Seer isn't the evil, and isn't the bane of all 3 chapters.
Oh no! We've been fulfilling the prophecy for the architects of evil this whole time!

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That'd be a great twist. We threw off the balance but helping the Seer and now we're going to pay the price.

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Yeah, they do look similar in a way, but as mentioned above, they aren't Mursaat, but actually Margonites.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Denfer
Actually, that pic DOES look familiar. Didn't the Seer have a few arms and look kinda like that?

That has always been a big question mark in my mind. Just WHO was this seer and he/she seemed pretty hell bent on seeing the mursaat defeated. It wasn't the Lich, but could it have been one of these characters? I had thought it might be glint in disguise, but now I'm not so sure.

I guess we'll find out when the chapter is released.
Could the Seers and the Margonites (whom I thought had all died in the Crystal Desert, trying to ascend) be the same race? I had assumed the Margonites where humans, but it seems I was mistaken. They seem very ancient (clearly predating the Cystal Desert) and enigmatic, and the Seers never do say anything about their kind other than that they are trying to defeat the Mursaat... for centuries, which fits.

If so, this is a very interesting connection, and might answer a lingering question about the Mursaat. Where did they come from, and what were their motivations?

Now note that I use past tense. I think we're supposed to assume the titans (who must have something against Mursaat to seek them out over other races) drove them to extinction, as seemingly foretold by Glint, but this isn't explicitly shown, and Glint's words are somewhat ambiguous. Does she mean the end of their civilization, or the end of the race itself? It's hard to believe the titans could have wiped them all out, especially considering that almost immediately upon their release, the Lich drove them to attack humanity, specifically, and not the Mursaat.

It is also curious that the Charr seemed to revere them... judging by the totems they build, I believe the big angry kitties actually worship them... ironically much like the White Mantle worshipped the Mursaat, though there may just be something divine about them.

Even running rampant upon the Lich's... er, second... no, fifth and final death, they seemed intent on carrying out the orders received from him. On top of that, they were stopped at HoD, which is most likely South of the Mursaat homeland, which we're led to believe is along the Ullen River... North of Riverside Province, close to the druids of Maguuma who oh so mysteriously disappeared after settling in the jungle, makes sense because it was most likely them who killed the druids, and close enough to Kryta for Saul D'Alessio to find.

It's hard to believe that they went around HoD and proceeded to this are, then cleared the entire area of every single Mursaat. I've never been, but my uncle has gone backpacking (like HARDCORE backpacking) in SE Asia, including Vietnam, and fron the sounds of it, just moving a short distance, on foot, with equipment and knowledge of how to go about it, is a struggle at times in a dense jungle. That's for people, not huge titans.

I think it's not only possible, but given the "loose ends" talk, likely, that we'll see something of the Mursaat in Nightfall. They're down (for good, probably) but not out... yet. At the end of Nightfall they likely will be, barring some shocking revelations about them. I would like to learn more about these powerful and mysterious creatures.

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I see a connection in the titans to this new god. If you think about who would create these destructive and chaotic creatures, of all the gods. I really think the Mussart were not technically all evil until they started killing people to keep the prison portals in check. However both the Lich and the Mussart had to die because of their own destructive paths, and due to this to make room for this new god.

Going a little off subject if you look at those chaotic rifts, as well as the chaotic states in the both FoW and UW; I see them as distractions for the gods, to keep their eyes away from the true evil. It’s all pretty much a set up for revenge.

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That picture is of a Marganite, as stated earlier. I realized that there was I picture of one in PC Gamer, and it doesnt have grey skin, instead it is similar to human flesh and is tan. This eliminates the possiblity of them being related to seer and mursaat, because if I recall correctly the seer had grey skin. Although I do not doubt that the mursaat and the seer may thicken the plot in Nightfall.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheMosesPHD
They look completely different O.o You use "6 eyes" as a point of comparison between the two, but the Mursaat don't have 6 eyes. They also don't have webbed skin/horn/claws on their heads. The Mursaat have those black mini-wings protruding from the middle of their back, while the protrusions on the game art are coming from the head. Also the mursaat look to have feet, that game-art pic doesn't have feet. And I just noticed taht Mursaat don't have four arms.

If anything, this monster pictured here could be related to the seer, the alien whose race fought the mursaat on another planet. Definitely not mursaat though.

The knight's helm horns and the metal tusk protrusions on the game-arts head may have similar shape, but that's about it.

Comparing that game-art to mursaat is like saying a cat is the same as a dog because they both have big ears, paws, a tail, and walk on all four.

Cat =! Dog
Mursaat =! Game-art

BTW what store had the pre-release. I checked EB, Gamestop, and Bestbuy today on the way home from work and no luck
Sorry for the double post, but you mentioned the Seer being from another planet, I don't remember anyone saying that, was that a joke, or was it really mentioned. If it was actually mentioned, could you tell me where I can get more info on that?

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The Seer said it's race had been wiped out if memory serves, however the Marganites could be some sort of offshoot of the Seer's race. Perhaps the Mursaat, the Titans, and the Plague Shiro wrought were all just distractions to avert our eyes from the truth behind the plagues of evil creatures.

What I am interested in is the title of the sixth deity, Balthazaar is the god of war, Lyssa is the god of intrigue, Melandru is the god of nature, Dwayna is the god of healing (what would be a better title/term? Life?) and Grenth is the god of death... Death isn't necessarily evil however, and this sixth deity seems to be quite evil... Perhaps it's the god of Chaos or something to that effect?

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In terms of enemies to finish up, the only army with lots of strings still untied is the Charr.

-Mursaat: Pwned by you and Lich
-Undead: You pwned the Lich
-Mantle: Leader killed
-Stone Summit: Leader killed.

Personally, I'm hoping that we'll get to pwn the Charr in chapter 3, but if not I'm not going to cry

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Quote:
Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9
The Dredge found their way into Factions don't forget. Aside from having updated professions, their art was exactly the same.

As far as my interpretation of that creature, I'd agree it's Seer related. Nightfall is supposed to wrap up many, many loose ends from Prophecies. I'm very intrigued. I just hope the Seer isn't the evil, and isn't the bane of all 3 chapters.
Oh no! We've been fulfilling the prophecy for the architects of evil this whole time!
I Doubt that the will pull another undead Lich Double Trick on us using the Seer, IMO, The Seer is the only real good.

But who cares about all that... what happened to Gwen? (Retohricle Question)

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Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
Its a new game, I'd be damned if they use the same content over and over again.
lol, it still has to look simmilar. It really is about as close as a dog & cat.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by KoalaMeatPie
I Doubt that the will pull another undead Lich Double Trick on us using the Seer, IMO, The Seer is the only real good.
Aye. The Seer does show up in Hell's Precipice as well, and not as an enemy - which seems to indicate that it does actually care about Tyria not being wiped out by the Titans.

On the Mursaat: There have been theories that the Mursaat are actually an ancient race that has Ascended, based on similarities between the armour style of the Enchanted (the theory being that the Enchanted were made from suits of armour left behind by the ancient Mursaat around the time they Ascended) and the Mursaat.

And I don't think we'll get to gun for the Charr in C3, but there are references in C1 to the lands to the north of Tyria that may get explored in a later chapter that gives us the chance to deal with the Charr. That said, I think the Charr do get dealt with in the story - first, by killing their general in Rin before going on exile, and second by destroying their gods in the Titan Quests.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
The Seer said it's race had been wiped out if memory serves, however the Marganites could be some sort of offshoot of the Seer's race. Perhaps the Mursaat, the Titans, and the Plague Shiro wrought were all just distractions to avert our eyes from the truth behind the plagues of evil creatures.

What I am interested in is the title of the sixth deity, Balthazaar is the god of war, Lyssa is the god of intrigue, Melandru is the god of nature, Dwayna is the god of healing (what would be a better title/term? Life?) and Grenth is the god of death... Death isn't necessarily evil however, and this sixth deity seems to be quite evil... Perhaps it's the god of Chaos or something to that effect?
Well, from what we know about the sixth god so far I would say Chaos is a safe bet. There is definitely a link between the sixth god and the ToPK & Dragon Festival events which featured such love things as Facets of Chaos and the like.

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I would hope they aren't the same, or the price of Mursaat items would tank >.<

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The Seer could pass for a marganite to me.