Mysticism Changed?

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

I looked at the page for Dervishes on the Pre-order CD.

This was the description I got

Mysticism (Primary): For each rank of Mysticism, the gods bless the dervish with health and energy.

Is this old news?

Since I remember Mysticism granted HP and Energy when an enchantment ended during the PvP Event(Thus leading to MASSIVE abuse by D/Mo...)

Sasuke The Betrayer

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

Even if they changed the description it doesn't really surprise me. There's also mistakes ANET makes,... well because everyone makes mistakes. They probably lessen the health and energy gain imo.. which im hoping they did

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

Is that the exact line, cause it doesnt make any sense if it is.
Bless with health and energy.HOW much health and energy?WHEN do the gods bless with these gifts?

I dont want to doubt you, but it either is your lieying and just trying to get attention, or wherever you read this just put the description in their own words.

Sarevok Thordin

Sarevok Thordin

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Scotland

W/N

You think it's just the same as before and they just REALLY minced the wording up? =/

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

It could be they simply aren't 100% sure of how much energy and health they want to give, so they aren't saying anything. If they put specific number in there now, then changed them before release, imagine how many people would complain about it.

gamecube187

gamecube187

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

I think they are thinking of changing it to your max health and energy is increased by ? for every level or something, but they just aren't sure, so they want to be as vague as possible, while still sorta telling us. But then again ele has energy storage....hmmm...

Xenex Xclame

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

No i didnt think it was same as before, i do/did believe they changed it, the wording they used just doesnt make sense.

Ok so i can believe that it will be added to their max hp/energy,or after each skill used, or something, but what you guiys said i think is what is goign on, they want to do what is said in the description, they just dont know when/how to make it happen.

BTW i dont think adding it to max would be a good idea :| like GC187 said ele already has ES,and the amount of hp added to max would really have to be thought about i mean dervish with 800 hp always O_o goodbye spike


Edit: wait wait wait, look at the other features in the pic, reading that makes me think the description of mystiscism ( omg what a hard word) is just a shortend version of the real description.So it tells you what it does, if you want to know more about it Buy/Play the game :P

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

yeah thinks are wrong (sunspear info) not to mention all subject to change since they probably wrote that all up a while ago.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

yeah, the packaging and stuff had to be finished before the game came out... this way on release day, no matter what they decide to do with Mysticism during the next month, the pre-release kit wont be wrong.

doomqueen

doomqueen

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

ye its changed here is old one:

Mysticism (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
Whenever an Enchantment ends, you gain 3 Health for each rank of Mysticism and 1 Energy for every 2 ranks of Mysticism.

and here is link with that info >>>LINK

Trylo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

[Here] | CKOD

E/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by sykoone
It could be they simply aren't 100% sure of how much energy and health they want to give, so they aren't saying anything. If they put specific number in there now, then changed them before release, imagine how many people would complain about it.
like he said, THEY DONT KNOW YET! theyre probably changing it every once and a while and trying to find the only way to make it unabuseable!!! (IE: CoP)

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

***** SPOILER WARNING *****

Mysticism (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
For each rank of Mysticism, you gain 10 point of maximum health and 1 point of maximum energy.

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

If that's true, it means I won't be making a primary Dervish.

Silver_Fang

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

Manchester UK

Rt/

Quote:
Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond
If that's true, it means I won't be making a primary Dervish.
Form is not good enough primary Dervish? FYI, Dervish Secondary can't use the Elite form.

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
***** SPOILER WARNING *****

Mysticism (PRIMARY ATTRIBUTE)
For each rank of Mysticism, you gain 10 point of maximum health and 1 point of maximum energy.
where did you find this informaition?

It really would be terrible because you have the chance to gain 160 health and 16 extra energy with no way of gaining it back. Simply would make it not worthwhile really.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Seems the description Lightblade has put up is what was used during the pvp weekend, except he has the maximums in the wrong place.

unholy guardian

unholy guardian

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

Lost Haven

A/Mo

not really since you gained a max of 36 health and 8 energy when an enchant ended on you in the pvp event

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

Gaining maximum health is skills like Vital Blessing.

During the PvP weekend you gained health to a maximum of whatever your mysticism rank was.
This is why I suggest that Lightblade is actually referring to the pvp description with the "maximum"s in the wrong place.

Quid Pro Quo

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lady Lozza
Gaining maximum health is skills like Vital Blessing.

During the PvP weekend you gained health to a maximum of whatever your mysticism rank was.
This is why I suggest that Lightblade is actually referring to the pvp description with the "maximum"s in the wrong place.
I doubt that... why would anyone make an ele then? With 160 max energy you could do almost anyting. +10 health and +1 energy sounds just right to me and pretty cool.

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

*sigh* Once again you miss the point.

Read the "original" description from the beta weekend. It was 3 health and 1 energy for x ranks.

"Maximum health" which lightblade has in his description, refers to the MAXIMUM health you have at 100% health. This is stupid. Why would an attribute give you this? Eles get ES, so why would another class get health AND energy bonus from it? Those who played Dervish on the pvp weekend know that they don't really need it, especially with their god forms.

So I'm suggesting that semantically, lightblade has the key word of "maximum" in the wrong place. If it read for a maximum of x health and x energy, then the description would be effectively the same as the "original/pvp weekend" description.

Prefectus

Prefectus

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Jeresy

R/

Well if there primary ups health then i forsee rune abuse

exiled mat

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prefectus
Well if there primary ups health then i forsee rune abuse
but you'll NEVER see a 55 dervish