Nightfall, Alliance Faction, and you

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brad-
Ascalonian Squire
#1
So what will become of the Kurzik/Luxon Alliance battles come Nightfall? Will it no longer be a topic? Is nightfall more PVE based? Anyone got the scoup?
LiamR
LiamR
Lion's Arch Merchant
#2
I think.
They will still be popular.
Yes, kinda.
Yup.
I have soup.
Demesis
Demesis
Banned
#3
I want soup...
unholy guardian
unholy guardian
Jungle Guide
#4
liam just scamed me out of my soup! :P

Anyway it would appear to be more pve based.
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KamikazeChicken
Desert Nomad
#5
Afaik, a guild must still have some amount of faction, or it's removed from the alliance when it reaches 0. Hopefully that's been changed, or they remove that requirement.
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Electric Sky
Krytan Explorer
#6
i think it will be easier to control towns then when everyone starts to focus more on Nightfall and stop gaining massive amounts faction points like they do right now
Shyft the Pyro
Shyft the Pyro
Wilds Pathfinder
#7
In my estimation, the only thing Factions will be good for once Nightfall hits is "extra content" you have to pay for.

Currently, in order to create or join an alliance, guild leader must declare allegiance to either Kurzicks or Luxons, which can only be done in House Zu Heltzer and Cavalon respectively. Unless Nightfall offers an alternative mechanic for creating alliances, only guild leaders who own Factions will be able to create or join alliances, just as only people who own Factions will have access to the materials storage.

To answer the OP's question more specifically, I think the only people concerned with AB and faction farming after Nightfall release will be those who are going for faction point donation titles. I have always considered the "persistant warfare" part of Factions a grind, so in my estimation most people will jump over to Nightfall as soon as it is available - assuming Nightfall does not utilize the same mechanic, and assuming it isn't worse than Factions, which I consider the only two things that could make people come back to AB.

But these are just my estimations. None of this is "scoop"
HawkofStorms
HawkofStorms
Hall Hero
#8
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Originally Posted by KamikazeChicken
Afaik, a guild must still have some amount of faction, or it's removed from the alliance when it reaches 0. Hopefully that's been changed, or they remove that requirement.
Since when? A guild in my alliance (which doesn't FF) has 1 Faction point. They've been like that for 2 weeks. Since 10% of 1 Faction point is rounded down to 0, they perpetually keep that 1 point of Faction.

Guilds don't get auto kicked out of alliances if they have no faction, since once you've earned some faction, it is mathematically impossible to get rid of it all.
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Spike
Jungle Guide
#9
Yes nightfall IS more pve based. Even more so than original GW apparently. I'm guessing people will still AB but the faction required to control towns will more then likey drop a LOT except for maybe HZH and Cavalon.
Thallandor
Thallandor
Desert Nomad
#10
Quote:
Originally Posted by brad-
Is nightfall more PVE based?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...0038662&page=3

Post #57

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Originally Posted by Alex Weekes
While I can't tell you much, I can tell you that Nightfall has a larger PvE experience than factions. This is due both to simple quantity (20 story missions, larger map etc) but also, I believe, in quality; things like more interactive environments (traps), the hero system etc will help enhance you experience while playing through the story.
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ICI
Academy Page
#11
never say soup again on a forum, i'm hungry now
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Lord Morthain
Pre-Searing Cadet
#12
i dont think that the factions will have anything to do with night fall *sigh* since this takes place on a whole new continet it wont have any effect
Angel Netherborn
Angel Netherborn
Krytan Explorer
#13
1. The OP wasn't asking about whether factions is related to nightfall. Just what will happen to the Alliance Battles when Nightfall gets released.

2. Nightfall is not on a new continent. It's on the other side of the Crystal Desert.

3. It's "scoop" not "scoup"; hence the soup...
Jimmy Dean
Jimmy Dean
Academy Page
#14
It appears that alliances, faction, and related aspects of the game will remain Chapter 2 (Factions) specific. But I think alliance battles will continue to rage on for various reasons:

1. Not everyone will have Nightfall and people play what they have.
2. AB is a great way to try out new builds for PvP, and many new builds will emerge with the new characters (I'm assuming Nightfall characters will be able to access AB in a combined account).
3. AB is still a decent money maker for people who would be doing it anyway - in last weekend's double faction event I was getting 10K faction (worth 6K in amber) in an hour. Sure there are faster ways to make money, but it's a nice added incentive.
Big_Iron
Big_Iron
Desert Nomad
#15
I have the feeling that Factions towns and outposts will be ghost towns once Nightfall is released. Will Alliances even matter then? I'll be the first to admit it if I'm wrong.