What turns parents off..
Spike
Its says 12+ on my Factions box. Ok The female rit is bareng some skin. But its nothing more than you would see in any 12 rated movie or a teens tv show.
Str0b0
I honestly think it has less to do with fundamentalist conservative values so much as laziness. It sucks for the OP that his parents found the box art offensive but I do applaud them for actually stepping up and being parents.
I remember the anti naked dancing petition and I thought it was the most apallingly lazy thing I had ever seen. Unfortunately this sort of thing happens an awful lot in the gaming industry. Some parents seem to want corporations to do their job for them. It is the job of parents to protect their children from questionable or offensive materials just like the OP's parents did. I believe Anet has done everything they can to make the subject matter of this game as appropriate as they possibly could for the audience it was aimed at. It's not for children. It says so right on the box for crying out loud.
To the OP I say this; while it may suck that you are out in the cold for Guild Wars, you should thank your lucky stars that your parents are actually taking the time to do their job in a day and age when many parents expect the media and business to raise and morally educate their children.
/end soapbox session
I remember the anti naked dancing petition and I thought it was the most apallingly lazy thing I had ever seen. Unfortunately this sort of thing happens an awful lot in the gaming industry. Some parents seem to want corporations to do their job for them. It is the job of parents to protect their children from questionable or offensive materials just like the OP's parents did. I believe Anet has done everything they can to make the subject matter of this game as appropriate as they possibly could for the audience it was aimed at. It's not for children. It says so right on the box for crying out loud.
To the OP I say this; while it may suck that you are out in the cold for Guild Wars, you should thank your lucky stars that your parents are actually taking the time to do their job in a day and age when many parents expect the media and business to raise and morally educate their children.
/end soapbox session
Malice Black
A parents job is to prepare the child for adulthood, wrapping a child up in cotton wool does not benefit them in any way. Children that are wrapped up normally end up as social rejects because they have had no real interaction with the real world.
There is a fine line between being a good parent and being a smothering parent.
There is a fine line between being a good parent and being a smothering parent.
TheMadKingGeorge
i was playing 18 games whe ni was like 9 -11
mathijn
the only naked things ingame are (P)imps!
shocking!
shocking!
LifeInfusion
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i was playing 18 games whe ni was like 9 -11
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Me too...but it made me more mature than the idiots in school laughing and pulling each others shoe laces...
as for the OP, at least you don't get your sales people reading the whole dam CE box's descriptions on the back ALOUD when you get it.
Then the guy asked me what is it with the dances, when I clearly was buying it for the artbook and soundtrack.
Mr D J
Wow... I just go to the store and buy my own games if I want to. How old are you so that your parents actually do that to you? I'd be really freaking out if my parents ever did that to me...
ALSO
QFT, you're right. As always 
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ALSO
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A parents job is to prepare the child for adulthood, wrapping a child up in cotton wool does not benefit them in any way. Children that are wrapped up normally end up as social rejects because they have had no real interaction with the real world.
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Former Ruling
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Get a box without a woman on it and you will get the game - but look out for Pre-Searing Ascalon City. Lots of immature nude dancers there...
Oh, and here is a gallery of box art images, by the way. You must have shown your parents the wrong game or the box with the semi-naked Cynn on it (which, by the way, is the oldest box of all - it's unlikely you'd find it!). |
Anyway, it was probably the Eve box..As you can see the side of her breast because her bra peice doesn't fit
Aman
it's not my fault my parents are like that.
"does your parents wrap you up in cotton so you don't get hurt"
what the hell? why was that necessary? Your the one who is acting immature.
"does your parents wrap you up in cotton so you don't get hurt"
what the hell? why was that necessary? Your the one who is acting immature.
Str0b0
Well whether it's good parenting or bad parenting is immaterial to the point I was making which is that at least they did some parenting as opposed to the parents that basically say." Hey! ( insert game company here) why don't you stop it with ( insert whatever they find objectionable here) because our children shouldn't be exposed to it and we are too lazy to read a box or do a little research and say 'no you can't play that', you know take an interest in what our kids are doing. If you could just do the job for us by raping your product of all playability we would really appreciate it."
Remember the Hot Coffee controversy? Old lady makes a big stink because she bought her teenage grandson a game that says Mature right on the box and then expected it to be funtime at Disneyland. The worst thing is some of these people would rather die than allow their kids to see an R rated movie but they can't pay attention to the equally simple rating system the ESRB has established explicitly to help parents.
Remember the Hot Coffee controversy? Old lady makes a big stink because she bought her teenage grandson a game that says Mature right on the box and then expected it to be funtime at Disneyland. The worst thing is some of these people would rather die than allow their kids to see an R rated movie but they can't pay attention to the equally simple rating system the ESRB has established explicitly to help parents.
Malice Black
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it's not my fault my parents are like that.
"does your parents wrap you up in cotton so you don't get hurt" what the hell? why was that necessary? Your the one who is acting immature. |
Spike
You can see more of the woman in the green outfits (mermer?) breasts than of Eve's If there was one that I could see people geting offended over it would be the one with the woman all in white and with just a very thin strap accross her rather large breasts. See pic below.
http://www.guildwars.com/images/boxa...sale-large.jpg
http://www.guildwars.com/images/boxa...sale-large.jpg
Silver_Fang
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Malice Black
See more breast watching the Fashion channel and thats on morning, day and night.
ok so i watch it once in a while..need new ideas for expanding my room sized wardrobe
ok so i watch it once in a while..need new ideas for expanding my room sized wardrobe
The Herbalizer
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LOL wow, do your parents also wrap you up in cotton wool so you cant hurt yourself?
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Tachyon
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it's not my fault my parents are like that.
"does your parents wrap you up in cotton so you don't get hurt" what the hell? why was that necessary? Your the one who is acting immature. |
Perhaps you could politely ask your parents to remove the horse crap from their wheels! You know what I mean?
Malice Black
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I was so tempted to go into an essay on my views but I chose not to as I dont know how gwg feel about people debating religious matters. Would be nice if current affairs debates etc would be allowed here as far as I know you cant mention politics much =(
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I was so tempted to go into an essay on my views but I chose not to as I dont know how gwg feel about people debating religious matters. Would be nice if current affairs debates etc would be allowed here as far as I know you cant mantion politics much =(
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Ugh, in the early 1900's women were arrested on indecent exposure charges for wearing MORE than what you see women today wearing.
On top of that, I've seen worse on the cover to "17" or what ever that magazine is called. Heck, 12 year olds read it. Guess you better start reinforcing that the media is in charge at an early age.
Linksys
Replying to the original post, GW has already sold a LOT. Both games and it will be the same with Nightfall.
If everything was blatantly conservative in terms of female character appearances and such, then maybe the sales would actually be down. I don't want Arenanet to be like the Church of Opus Dei.
If everything was blatantly conservative in terms of female character appearances and such, then maybe the sales would actually be down. I don't want Arenanet to be like the Church of Opus Dei.
Ondo
WOW!!!
(I was going to write more but not going to talk about a closed thread)
Log out is a nice feature for those who cannot explain the goings on of in game play.
OP - I am a parent, not a very prudish one. If my children wanted to play I would allow them. My wife had issues at times when I was playing the game. I simply stop, and explain what was going on, or dicuss the issue and all is fine. Maybe instead of just showing the box to your parents, you could explain all the pros and cons of the game to your parents. You'll see people dressed in underwear as there are making better armor for themself, some of which will be dancing because they are happy that they finally got max armor (of course other reasons also). That you will meet and befriend numerous people from across the globe. So on and so on.....make a list sit down with them, show them Guildwars.com web site. Let them make a decision based on knowledge instead of the cover of one box. If you really want to play the game, do it with the knowledge that you haven't betrayed your parents trust.
(I was going to write more but not going to talk about a closed thread)
Log out is a nice feature for those who cannot explain the goings on of in game play.
OP - I am a parent, not a very prudish one. If my children wanted to play I would allow them. My wife had issues at times when I was playing the game. I simply stop, and explain what was going on, or dicuss the issue and all is fine. Maybe instead of just showing the box to your parents, you could explain all the pros and cons of the game to your parents. You'll see people dressed in underwear as there are making better armor for themself, some of which will be dancing because they are happy that they finally got max armor (of course other reasons also). That you will meet and befriend numerous people from across the globe. So on and so on.....make a list sit down with them, show them Guildwars.com web site. Let them make a decision based on knowledge instead of the cover of one box. If you really want to play the game, do it with the knowledge that you haven't betrayed your parents trust.
Aman
This is the simply the worst site i'v come across.
Do you gyus try to help people or try to put them down?
No offense to people who understood my post and acutally gave suggests on what to do instead of saying " do they put you in cotton? " " are you 13 years old?" " you have problems"
Do you gyus try to help people or try to put them down?
No offense to people who understood my post and acutally gave suggests on what to do instead of saying " do they put you in cotton? " " are you 13 years old?" " you have problems"
lightblade
Nudity?! I don't see any...but if nudity means half naked. Then I see those a lot of boxes. GW's boxes does have a lot of girls with big breasts in bikinis.
Knightsaber Sith
Just stop coming to this thread and in time, it shall die.
Eviance
Aman I'm not trying to put you or your parents down but if you go to your local store and visit the underware section its much worse than this game. The only true nakie person that was found in game was left in by the devs as a spot holder and he was out in an explorable area and has been removed. (no actual body "parts" were on him).
I have a 6yr old and he doesn't think anyone is nakied just in their undies and heck my kids are in their undies more often than anyone else I know -_- He thinks its silly but thats about as far as it goes.
This game is mild compared to a lot of others out there and you will find that the language of the people playing the game to be far worse than any of the art within it. If your parents were that shocked by the box then they likely aren't going to approve of it once you get it and they see the half nakie eles dancing or the rangers in their 15k leaf armor.
I have a 6yr old and he doesn't think anyone is nakied just in their undies and heck my kids are in their undies more often than anyone else I know -_- He thinks its silly but thats about as far as it goes.
This game is mild compared to a lot of others out there and you will find that the language of the people playing the game to be far worse than any of the art within it. If your parents were that shocked by the box then they likely aren't going to approve of it once you get it and they see the half nakie eles dancing or the rangers in their 15k leaf armor.
Angel Develin
pixel--pixel---colored pixel----colored pixel----dot---dot---dot
jeee i see more naked on tv.....internet....street.....posters......girl next door
jeee i see more naked on tv.....internet....street.....posters......girl next door
Does-it-Matter
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Religion and politics are a nono because of the political shit going on these days.
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Back on topic.
Alright, some parents are just over-cautious, old-fashioned, or what not. When I was growing up, I know my mom never let me get anything that was above my rating (although my dad was different
). And, in retrospect, I can agree that such ratings are put in place for a reason.Though, at the same time, a parent can't expect to shield their child forever. Catcher in the Rye, anyone? If anything, it should be a gradual exposure as well as a good reinforcement from the parents (i.e. sit down and talk to the child.)
Unless the child is brainwashed (and yes, I'll call it brainwashed, you can call it disciplined if you want) enough to avoid any and all sources of "maturity" at school, he/she will quickly become exposed to it. Then you have outside of school, college, etc. No one can protect innocence forever. Guide the child into the real world, don't try to protect him until your efforts shatter.
Though again, at the end of the day, we have to realize, the final choice lies with Aman's parents, regardless of what we feel.
xXa1
Aman:
your parents may have just used "nudity" as a reason not to buy you the game for various others reasons they do not wish to explain to you.
your parents may have just used "nudity" as a reason not to buy you the game for various others reasons they do not wish to explain to you.
Poison Ivy
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A parents job is to prepare the child for adulthood, wrapping a child up in cotton wool does not benefit them in any way. Children that are wrapped up normally end up as social rejects because they have had no real interaction with the real world.
There is a fine line between being a good parent and being a smothering parent. |
...Right?
Commander Ryker
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1. considering the 'average' GW player is a 20-30 year old male id say that their marketing is right on.
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Mostly Arabs, over zealous Christians, morons aka *mormons*
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Religion and politics are a nono because of the political shit going on these days.
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Get a box without a woman on it and you will get the game - but look out for Pre-Searing Ascalon City. Lots of immature nude dancers there...
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To the OP I say this; while it may suck that you are out in the cold for Guild Wars, you should thank your lucky stars that your parents are actually taking the time to do their job in a day and age when many parents expect the media and business to raise and morally educate their children.
/end soapbox session |
Set
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You forgot the american republicans (read: Bush brothers when they tried to shut down all strip joints)
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...91832439630507
Knightsaber Sith
argh matey
I'd say this thread has gone far past any actual significance to pointless banter
I'd say this thread has gone far past any actual significance to pointless banter
Set
Sorry, my bad.
Stockholm
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LMAO... they'll never shut down the Internet!!! The Internet is for Porn (warning: adult supervision recommended.... don't turn up too loud if kids are around):
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Good one
, but watch your back , you know who is watching you(reads: Bush brothers)
Dante the Warlord
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Though one could also argue that the current situation these days are at a direct effect because people were unwilling to debate and instead clung to their own views as set in stone.
--- Back on topic. Alright, some parents are just over-cautious, old-fashioned, or what not. When I was growing up, I know my mom never let me get anything that was above my rating (although my dad was different ). And, in retrospect, I can agree that such ratings are put in place for a reason.Though, at the same time, a parent can't expect to shield their child forever. Catcher in the Rye, anyone? If anything, it should be a gradual exposure as well as a good reinforcement from the parents (i.e. sit down and talk to the child.) Unless the child is brainwashed (and yes, I'll call it brainwashed, you can call it disciplined if you want) enough to avoid any and all sources of "maturity" at school, he/she will quickly become exposed to it. Then you have outside of school, college, etc. No one can protect innocence forever. Guide the child into the real world, don't try to protect him until your efforts shatter. Though again, at the end of the day, we have to realize, the final choice lies with Aman's parents, regardless of what we feel. |