UW Spider - Worth it?

Rofl_Pwnt

Rofl_Pwnt

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

At my house.

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17 Sep 2006 at 22:34 - 1
This has been glued into my mind for the past week and i wanted to find out if it was true:

Some where i read that All the pets except the spider did slashing, And the spider did peircing.

One time i was trying to sell Chkkr's pincers. I was saying they were the same as shiro's blades without seeing the "Slashing/Peircing Difference".

While trying to Sell, Someone pm'd me and said "They arent like Shiro's, Shiro's do slashing, Yours do peircing, and Slashing is better then pericing".

so a few days later my friend got an uw spider, shes been so excited about it, I've been wanting to get my own, but i just cant get that thought out of mymind, can anyone help and tell me if the spider Does less "Overall Damage" then..(Example) a black moa?

tuperwho

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Tenacious Knights of Doom [TKD]

17 Sep 2006 at 22:41 - 2
Check the amazing and massive pet guide here on guru. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that they concluded that all pets (except the bear) do identicle damage. However, having a spider as a status symbol for it's badass-itude is definitely worth it I'll look for a link to the guide in a sec....


Edit: After an easy search (hint, hint), here she be: http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s... ate+pet+guide Note that you are correct that spiders (and dune lizards) do piercing damage, instead of slashing. You'll have to ready for yourself if that actually makes a significant difference in damage output, though.

Wolydarg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

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17 Sep 2006 at 22:48 - 3
"Shields Up!" is a skill that will screw over spiders and assassins, since it gives +50 armor against piercing to all allies within earshot. Also your spider won't be doing as much damage against skeleton monsters in FoW since they're resistant to piercing(and blunt damage) as well. Shields Up has pretty much left the metagame when ranger spikes died IIRC, so my spider has been enjoying a good time as a bunny when I thumped.

I got my spider simply because I didn't really like any other of the pets that much, yet the Black Widow just looked so freakin leet. Much better than the velociraptor phoenix thingy..

Rofl_Pwnt

Rofl_Pwnt

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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17 Sep 2006 at 22:51 - 4
ah thanks most appreciated

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

17 Sep 2006 at 23:05 - 5
1. It's so 1337!!
2. It's one of the two pets in the game that do penetration damage.
3. It's the only bug pet.
4. It's the only black colored pet.

IIIPowerIII

IIIPowerIII

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Canada

R/Mo

18 Sep 2006 at 00:56 - 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
4. It's the only black colored pet. Black moa isnt pink... its black...

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

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18 Sep 2006 at 12:22 - 7
The spider isn't the best looking pet ever, I like crabs, they are so shiney, Killer Krabs FTW

Robin_Anadri

Robin_Anadri

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Girl Power [GP]

Me/Mo

18 Sep 2006 at 17:04 - 8
Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
1. It's so 1337!!
Maybe back when they were hard to get, when people were still figuring out how to roll in UW. Nowadays with people selling spider cap runs, meh. Somebody having a spider doesn't elicit a "congratulations" from me anymore.
Quote: 2. It's one of the two pets in the game that do penetration damage. They do piercing damage. It's not armor penetrating.
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3. It's the only bug pet. Crabs in factions are bugs.
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4. It's the only black colored pet. ...except for the Black Moa, Black Bear and Melandru's Stalker.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

18 Sep 2006 at 18:57 - 9
It's not that it does less damage overall per say... its just that against certain skills or monster types it's weak. BUT the same could be said against slashing/blunt damage as well. (look at the assassin armors)

As it was mentioned... Shields up is a big downer for Assassins and spiders alike.... but.... you'll not encounter that very often (if ever) in PvE at least. Go ahead and pick your pet according to what you think looks the best... because honestly (and unfortunately) the stats are identical. The only bad pet is a bear... and then it's not much worse.

lennymon

lennymon

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Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

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18 Sep 2006 at 19:45 - 10
technically although crabs sorta have a buglike appearance they are crustaceans, which is not a bug... related though. that said, crabs ftw!

I personally dont like the pre-evolved level 20 pets anymore, just because it really is easy to grab a pet of whatever flavor you want and make it whichever evolution you want, and that way its perfect AND unique because you've spent the time bonding and training your pet. Ever noticed that the pet AI doesnt do what you tell it to do? well thats because you havent trained your pet right
You can spend 25 minutes and get a spider, woot, big effin deal. Or train one right.

Taurohtar

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

18 Sep 2006 at 19:50 - 11
It looks excellent partnered with a Ranger or Warrior wearing Obsidian armour dyed black. Someone in black Obsidian armour atleast has some chance of earning a little respect as someone who didn't buy a Spider Capture run.

Shuuda

Shuuda

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Guildless

Me/

18 Sep 2006 at 19:54 - 12
So what your saying is that if u raise a pet from lvl 5, It will be better than a anto lvl 20 pet, if that is true, Im gonna get 1 of those red crabs, or maybe a whit tiger.

P.S the only people respect when it come to pet are those u use them for combat, rather than to look good.

SnipiousMax

SnipiousMax

Perfectly Elocuted

Join Date: Sep 2005

18 Sep 2006 at 20:06 - 13
Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
Ever noticed that the pet AI doesnt do what you tell it to do? well thats because you havent trained your pet right
Don't for get your [/sarcasm] tags. People might get the wrong idea!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Shuuda
So what your saying is that if u raise a pet from lvl 5, It will be better than a anto lvl 20 pet No, the only advantage you have with training a pet from level 5... is that you can generally choose the evolution you want for the pet. Dire/Hearty evolutions are better by far than the elder evolutions, and so finding the Dire/Hearty pre-evolved pet becomes more difficult. But a pre-evolved dire spider and a dire hard earned battle trained lizard are the same as far as AI goes.

Shuuda

Shuuda

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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18 Sep 2006 at 20:26 - 14
Well, having a Dire Lizard you get you more respect than having a spider, simpliy because he worked hard to raise it, instead of paying some person to get a spider for him. If you get a spider because you like bugs and it's the pet for you, fair enough, but the 1 thing I hate is when people get them just to look good......dam those curs.

Narutoscryed

Narutoscryed

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

In the woods

Elite Crew

W/E

18 Sep 2006 at 20:41 - 15
you can always cap the spider yourself.

I myself have helped all the good guidlies that wanted spiders get them.

they earned them in my opinion by being good guildies.

Besides its always fun to make a pure spider b/p or iway group



ask around in your guild for a spider run for free.. if you cant find one.. pm me in game and i will be glad to get ya one for free if i have the time. that way it will be worth it

Shuuda

Shuuda

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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18 Sep 2006 at 20:54 - 16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Narutoscryed
ask around in your guild for a spider run for free.. if you cant find one.. pm me in game and i will be glad to get ya one for free if i have the time. that way it will be worth it I'll will actually keep that in mind. Im currently raising a white tiger, if he fail to become dire, I may give u a wisper. hope u don't mind.

Taurohtar

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

18 Sep 2006 at 21:07 - 17
I captured mine because I liked the look of it over the other simple and graphicless pets.

Shuuda

Shuuda

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18 Sep 2006 at 21:25 - 18
I think the crabs look cool aswell, and Moa's, and tigers.

lennymon

lennymon

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18 Sep 2006 at 22:03 - 19
It wont get others to respect you more, no pet skin will... that only comes when your pet owns the bad guys This just tends to happen more frequently if you are used to working with the pet, and use it a lot... experience makes things get dead easier. So basically your ps is dead on


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Originally Posted by Shuuda
So what your saying is that if u raise a pet from lvl 5, It will be better than a anto lvl 20 pet, if that is true, Im gonna get 1 of those red crabs, or maybe a whit tiger.

P.S the only people respect when it come to pet are those u use them for combat, rather than to look good. I've also noticed a trend for x/r types to have a spider more often than the ranger primaries... this fits the bling theory since more often than not a monk only has a pet for bling.

Shuuda

Shuuda

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18 Sep 2006 at 22:08 - 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by lennymon
It wont get others to respect you more, no pet skin will... that only comes when your pet owns the bad guys This just tends to happen more frequently if you are used to working with the pet, and use it a lot... experience makes things get dead easier. So basically your ps is dead on
. Correct, I want a powerful pet because I enjoy been a beastmaster, enraged lunge is awsome damage skill. Remeber, it's not what it looks like, it's how u use it.

P.S my white tiger has hit lvl 11 as agressive, so he's doing well.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

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Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

18 Sep 2006 at 22:48 - 21
now they have some upgrade, and 2 consecutive spider runs (was helping guildies) , the spider was "hearthy"

the only diffrence, is the evolution.

yes they look nice, but so as my white tiger, my crane and my wolf. ya ok piercing... but i read somewhere that all the "birds" do piercing damage.

so thank you very much, im keeping my dire white tiger

lennymon

lennymon

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19 Sep 2006 at 00:59 - 22
They've always had a random evolution as far as I can remember, I helped a few guildies get them over 6 months ago and they had them back then as well.

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

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Aequitas Deis

19 Sep 2006 at 04:54 - 23
^^ i always saw eldeer or dire.....but never hearthy. ah well, maby just my luck

Shuuda

Shuuda

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Join Date: Jul 2006

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19 Sep 2006 at 07:10 - 24
I think that Lizards also do piercing damage.