What is it about NF that makes you play the game?

aldricsedia

aldricsedia

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

For me, i think that the game is based mainly on pve and heroes!

Arduin

Arduin

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

The Netherlands

Limburgse Jagers [LJ]

R/

The possibility of exploring another huge continent, with new environments, pets, enemies and so on

Mr. G

Mr. G

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2006

S. Wales

Mo/Me

To be honest im thankful they listened to most of the ideas/complaints on the boards and have them in NF, but really (even though its quite boring) Im going for the build saver/template/prof changer thingy

Lord Darkforge

Lord Darkforge

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

Lions Arch District 1 - Storage Under The Tree

[Fear] The Undead Alliance [Fear]

W/Mo

For me, more skills, more exploring, more land, just more of Guild Wars.

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

In order of priority:

1) Trade improvements
2) Party formation improvements
3) Heroes
4) Build / template saving
5) New story / missions / areas / skills / professions

I'm pretty sure ANet will make 1) - 4) exclusive for Nightfall account holders, as an incentive to buy the new campaign.

I'm still far from done with Factions and even Prophecies, so the "normal" game content listed under 5) wouldn't necessarily have made me buy a new campaign.

Darth Marth

Darth Marth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

USA Midwest

Order of Celestial Guardians II [OCG]

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
1) Trade improvements
2) Party formation improvements
I've never heard of these; what will they do?

Clord

Clord

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Finland

Victory Via Valour

Most from improvements are free to everybody if they effect things like how party list work, how AI work etc. If you only own first chapter you still see Assassin in your party and skills etc.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

New professions, new missions, new enemies, new weapons, new aromor, new continent, heroes, and much more.

Tetris L

Tetris L

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Germany

Servants of Fortuna

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth Marth
I've never heard of these; what will they do?
Both were mentioned by ANet in interviews, but no details were given.

gr3g

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
In order of priority:

1) Trade improvements
2) Party formation improvements
3) Heroes
4) Build / template saving
5) New story / missions / areas / skills / professions
But ranked in the order of likelihood of being implemented (and implemented well) in NF, I think the order is 5, 3, 4, 1, 2.

Party formation is completely below the radar as 1) people have adapted to LFG spam, and 2) many long time players don't pug anymore.

Improving trade is not a high priority to ArenaNet. We can guess this because, given how ridiculously popular this suggestion is in the fansites, ANet would make a point of advertising it if it were to be in NF. After a year of playing, most people have learned to endure WTB/WTS spam.

Skill templates may be implemented perfectly, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they will be like PvP templates in the sense that you cannot alter them. Or, to be precise, you can't save your alterations as new templates.

Heroes might be great or might be terrible. It entirely depends on how well implemented their AI will be. If I can give an assassin hero a certain skillbar, I should also be able to tell it what the combo order is as most effective assassin skillsets depend on correctly satisfying skill preconditions. Even dervishes require fairly precise order of skills or they aren't effective.

The storyline I am less worried about as they have a rich body of lore to exploit, and have experienced hands such as Jeff Grubb working on it. The story of Factions was very impoverished because it could not use any of the loose ends from the Tyrian campaign and the main arc was pretty dry. But when you start talking about ancient civilizations and wars of gods, well, you can pretty much pull an infinite number of monkeys from your behind without breaking a sweat.

teklys

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Wizardry Players Guild

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by gr3g
Party formation is completely below the radar as 1) people have adapted to LFG spam, and 2) many long time players don't pug anymore.

Improving trade is not a high priority to ArenaNet. We can guess this because, given how ridiculously popular this suggestion is in the fansites, ANet would make a point of advertising it if it were to be in NF. After a year of playing, most people have learned to endure WTB/WTS spam.
I don't know about this. I know of a one time very popular MMORPG that replaced spamming with other tools for both of these problems and the community quickly adapted to using the new systems.

Quote:
Originally Posted by gr3g
The storyline I am less worried about as they have a rich body of lore to exploit, and have experienced hands such as Jeff Grubb working on it. The story of Factions was very impoverished because it could not use any of the loose ends from the Tyrian campaign and the main arc was pretty dry. But when you start talking about ancient civilizations and wars of gods, well, you can pretty much pull an infinite number of monkeys from your behind without breaking a sweat.
Totally agree with you here. I've finished the storylines in both Tyria and Cantha and I thought the Canthan arc was by far of the "why do I really care?" type.

Relnor

Relnor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by gr3g
Skill templates may be implemented perfectly, but I have a sneaking suspicion that they will be like PvP templates in the sense that you cannot alter them. Or, to be precise, you can't save your alterations as new templates.
There were 2 low quality screenshots posted a week or so ago, and from what I could tell, the template system appeared to be extremely customizable and efficient.

gr3g

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Relnor
There were 2 low quality screenshots posted a week or so ago, and from what I could tell, the template system appeared to be extremely customizable and efficient.
I've seen the same screenshots and couldn't make head or tail of them. Hopefully the PvE preview event will clear things up.

SilentAssassin

SilentAssassin

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

Remnants of Ascalon, KT alliance

R/N

for me its simple,

NF is just more off the best game I've ever played (gw )

Skids

Skids

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK FTW

R/Mo

Nothing about Nightfall makes me play the game - because it hasnt been released yet.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

I haven't heard anything about trade improvements, but i had heard there will be a way to party across districts.

Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to a puzzle solving game too! But anything that includes new gw content is fine by me.

Mordakai

Mordakai

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Kyhlo

W/

1. The two new Professions. I had no desire to play a Ritualist or Assassin, but these two I'm really excited about. I already have names picked out and everything!

2. Heros. I can't wait to see how they work.

3. Loose ends. Gwen? Dhuum? Can't wait.

4. The Graphics / Setting. They look amazing... my only fear in my computer won't handle it without major lag...

But the screenshots I've seen are incredible, especially the floating gardens and Mosques and monsters.

Bottom line: I can't wait for Friday!

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Skill Templates and riding inside the wurm!

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

im looking forward to the new arena (1v1)... and considering the story is written by the same guy who wrote the Manual of the Planes (read: bible when i was into DnD) Id actually have to put the story at the top of my list.

The new classes alone are enough for me, but this cake has so much icing I think Im gonna have diabetes by the time its out.

Mister_Smiley

Mister_Smiley

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Everything makes me want to play Nightfall, not one specific thing.

Dougal Kronik

Dougal Kronik

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ontario, Canada

Glengarry Fencibles

R/

Elonian Grandmaster Cartographer and Protector of Elona!

Also the cheapest way I'll get Kind of a Big Deal title!

The truth itself

The truth itself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Denmark

First Degree

Mo/

Reasoning.

1) It's Guild Wars.
2) More skills. New proffessions, that seem useful.
3) Better henchmen, and more challenging PvE content.

Silly Warrior

Silly Warrior

Hold it!

Join Date: Jul 2006

In your local courthouse.

The Arctic Marauders [TAM] (elite PvE, PM)

Funny how you phrased the questions....


Heros seem interesting
Wurms ^_^
skill templates seem nice, I hope they are all we expect.
paragon and dervish, both nice additions to the game =0
I'm sure that Anet has more up their sleeves that they haven't told anyone yet. Remember when factions came out? A week before they annouced titles, I figure the same for NF, build suspence!

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dougal Kronik
Elonian Grandmaster Cartographer and Protector of Elona!

Also the cheapest way I'll get Kind of a Big Deal title!
I was pondering that as well, but then I got Tyrian Cartographer and realized what a royal pain it was and I think I'm not going to bother going after "Kind of a Big Deal" that route...

I'll just be happy with my Gladiator, Skill Hunter, and Wisdom title track characters each having their individual titles.

EternalTempest

EternalTempest

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

United States

Dark Side Ofthe Moon [DSM]

E/

I loved GW so far (with some ups and downs) but things brought out in the PC Gamer article that has me syched

For me, factions wasn't as good as orginal GW but enough for me to think the purchase was worth it. NF looks like the listenend to compalints from Factions.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Horseman Of War
im looking forward to the new arena (1v1)...
Don't look forward to the 1v1...it's not 1v1! It's still 4v4 except 3 players on each team is a computer controlled NPC.

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
Don't look forward to the 1v1...it's not 1v1! It's still 4v4 except 3 players on each team is a computer controlled NPC.
I love arguing semantics, can I play?

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

How on earth are people answering this, when Nightfall isn't even out yet. So how can you play it, when you don't have a copy yet

Maybe the OP got confused that it says "Nightfall" on the new login screen? Maybe he means Factions?

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

I am looking forward to:

Heroes
Protector and Cartography titles
Skills
Puzzle-type storyline effects
Prophecies design team

The above have peaked my interest, but I am buying it because the GW population is migrating to Elona, and I don't want to be stranded.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

+5 Energy Spears (For my Monk and Ritualist)
Paragon Armor Designs
Dervish Armor Designs
Epic Storyline and Campaign 1 and 2 tie in's
Fate of Gwen?

Urban_Nomad

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

3rd Era

R/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryFox
+5 Energy Spears (For my Monk and Ritualist)
Paragon Armor Designs
Dervish Armor Designs
Epic Storyline and Campaign 1 and 2 tie in's
Fate of Gwen?
Gwen = Outcast God

Myself, I just like exploring and storylines, plus new armor.

Zakarr

Zakarr

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Finland

To see if PvE has a future in Guild Wars. This is really the moment...the truth if PvE will ever get better. Now or never.

Reza

Reza

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

The Fellowship Of The King [King]

just one word: DERVISH!

unmatchedfury

unmatchedfury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cookie Cutter [FTW]

1.) new ritulist skills
2.) ZASALEMEL SHALL LIVE AGAIN!!!!!!!(dervrish)